Documentaries On Cults?

SteveG wrote: Btw, does anyone know of someone who was in a modern "creepy" cult?

MortSahlFan wrote: timothy leary wrote: back in the day in Hollywood sunset strip......https://medium.com/lessons-from-history/the-creepiest-cult-leader-you-probably-didnt-know-tony-alamo-862ed00bd8f7 I never heard about it, but found a short documentary on him. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qn3eZV2oxhQ

Southern California back in the day had many shady groups prowling the area.

A new, short article a few slides long about Michelle Pfeiffer's brief involvement in the early 1980s with a cult started by a couple who founded "'Breatharianism' — the belief that humans can train themselves to live on light and air and have no need for food or water."

Snicolette wrote: verslibre wrote: A new, short article a few slides long about Michelle Pfeiffer's brief involvement in the early 1980s with a cult started by a couple who founded "'Breatharianism' — the belief that humans can train themselves to live on light and air and have no need for food or water." The Moment Michelle Pfeiffer Realized She Was 'In a Cult' (msn.com) We were talking about this the other day, not her involvement, but the cult. Wiley Brooks, in this article, lived in Santa Cruz for a time (during the 80's, when I did as well), and lots of locals fell for his schtick and lost a ton of money along the way.  Stupid is as stupid does.

                   TRIAL AND ARROW

In 2005 I ran into an old friend I had not seen since the early 70s. We were both very busy, but we decided to hang out and ended up having a conversation about the occultism environment we grew up in during the early 70s.


She went into detail about her friendship with the victim who was murdered at Menantico. She said they rode the school bus and sat next to each other discussing religions . She had this idea in her head that he was outright murdered by the Menantico cult because they didn't like him. She claimed that the victim carried a small battery operated tape recorder and made tapes of ceremonial worship and conversations between cult members.


Although the victim wanted to die and return as a captain to rule over 40 leagues of demons...the cult disliked him anyway. Which was her belief. I used to see him around and he had similar appearances to Peter Gabriel...for example on the cover of Peter Gabriel's second album. He did not have a hippie kind of look and he tutored teenagers in the high school.


Peter Harrison stated in an interview: "I'm really not surprised that he's dead " "He always said he wasn't afraid of death and sometimes wished he were" "I used to visit his place and he'd dress up in a black cloak and supposedly talk to the spirits or something " "He would often say that his destiny was being guided by the demons and that they wanted him to die so they could be fulfilled " "I didn't take him seriously, but you couldn't help but to wonder" "He seemed quite serious about it all himself "


Some people believe he was programmed to perform this ritual. I wonder if that could be true based on the evidence confiscated during the police investigation.

We sat on a park bench for hours talking about the strange noises in the woods...all through our youth. ..which is described by Steve Jublou in the Weird NJ magazine issue # 20. Over the last 10 years several people from my youth have come forward with stories that are absolutely true about how many of us...as outsiders came across the Menantico cult in difficult situations. Incidents where we had to run or hide.


As I stated previously Sharon and I reunited our friendship and for weeks on end we had hours of conversation on our strange past. These conversations were sometimes interrupted abruptly by a man shouting across the room. When I asked her who this person was she said it was her husband and that he was mentally ill..and that she had responsibility to take care of him.

When I learned of his name...he began to bring back memories. A much older man or older than us in the early 70s. Then it hit me. This was an older man that drove cult members to Menantico. I had to be sure so I contacted the cousin of one of the witnesses to the ritualistic killing at Menantico. When I mentioned the older man's name to him he warned me to stay away from him. He told me that he was dangerous. He said..."Anyone who was involved with the Menantico Cult is either dead by suicide or permanently mentally ill " "Look at my cousin..he'll never be the same" "Talk to Sharon ..warn her"


I called Sharon and told her to pack her bags and that I would pick her up with the van....and that she could stay with my wife and kids until she could find a place of her own. She said " I cant...he's my responsibility " I called her everyday trying to talk her into leaving. This went on for a week until he murdered her in the house over what the newspapers claim to be a domestic dispute. He stabbed her over and over until she died. I felt awful! I felt like it was my fault. I felt guilty. I failed completely and to this day I still feel guilt over this.

verslibre wrote: MSF / Jacob, those are crazy stories (not "crazy good"). Thanks for taking the time. One of my sisters was a M_rm_n for a few years. Now, I know that is a very "established" church, but it checks just about every box for a cult, all the way down to members coming around to find out why one of their sheep chooses to discontinue their membership. Additionally, when she was one, her personality seemed to ebb away to somewhere between squaresville and pod person. Attempting a "conversation" with her was a no-go, unless it was about LDS goings-on.

Yes I have heard this before and it creeps me out a bit. Thanks for the post though...it was interesting

Wow... Thanks for sharing that story.

        2 Occult related experiences


The first experience took place in 1993 ( I believe?)

I was listening to music with a friend. It was a rainy night and we were in the mood to hear music. We were listening to Tangerine Dream and we ended up having a conversation about Glam Rock. We started reminiscing about Mick Ronson. We were in our early 30s and recalling how it made us feel to see him playing guitar for David Bowie and the Spiders when we were teenagers in the 70s.

Then I decided it would be a good idea to put on Mick Ronson Slaughter On Tenth Avenue album. As we listened to the album we were discussing how he arranged the strings for "Life On Mars" and how he brought life to Bowie's music. Then we're both asking each other..."I wonder what happened to him?"

At that moment the turntable stopped spinning and we heard that sound of the music slowing down. She says: "What happened?" I then told her that maybe the belt came off and so I grabbed a screwdriver.

A split second later the house phone began ringing. My friend ran into the kitchen to answer it. A minute later she walks into the music room to tell me that her sister had called to inform her that Mick Ronson died.

Next she's telling me that Mick Ronson's spirit was trying to give us the message that he was now dead and that he heard what we were saying about him. I said..."You're kidding right?" She said.."No..he wanted to let us know that he was dead" "He heard us!!!" I said..."This is a coincidence "

First of all...everything happened so fast. The turntable, the phone call and their was no proof or reason to believe in anything she was saying except for it all being a mere coincidence and that sometimes things of this nature occur in life for no apparent reason.


The second experience took place on 295 North when we were driving to a restaurant in Cherry Hill N.J. Halfway through our destination she asks me to pull off the highway. She points to the nightsky and says to look closely at what appeared to be a silver ball spinning in motion. "What do you think that is" she says...

I told her that I thought it was a light on top of a tower or pole ..on a military base. She says.."There is no military base in Gloucester County!"

I was like.."Oh boy..here we go again" I kept thinking it was attached to a high rise pole and that you couldn't see the pole because it was night and this silver ball was miles from us . It appeared to be distant yet very visible.


I pulled back on to the highway and entered a different highway that led to the restaurant. Sure enough it was to the right of us again and clear to see. She then said.."Do you think it's following us?" I said.."No ..it just appears to be following us and it's in a geographic position where if you're traveling north then east...it would seem that way, but it's not because it's a light on a pole"

We arrived at the restaurant and when we stood in the parking lot we could no longer see the silver ball . We had dinner and a few drinks. When we headed to our car she spotted it again in the same position in the sky. She was frightened and I said..."Listen..it's probably government machinery not a UFO." If it's not a light on top of a pole then it's possible it could be something belonging to the government "

I drove her back to the house and it was no longer visible in the nightsky. I have always wondered about this. I have mixed feelings. Probably because the events which took place that night were strange.

Edited by Jacob Schoolcraft - May 12 2022 at 10:45

I found a few Fleetwood Mac documentaries to be interesting and particularly based on the coverage of Jeremy Spencer and his mysterious disappearance when he was lured in by the Children Of God. Supposedly he was approached by a man named Apollos who handed him literature and they began to talk.

I often wondered if Spencer was still coming down from a Mescaline trip and that he felt vulnerable? ...or that he was an easy target



Edited by Jacob Schoolcraft - May 22 2022 at 18:56