Your favourite Punk albums?

Edited by The Anders - April 22 2022 at 16:04

David_D wrote: Lewian wrote: This is as punk as anything if you ask me. Well, the way I met Punk in the age of 20, Never Mind the Bullocks... is the very core of it.

Edited by David_D - April 22 2022 at 17:18

Lewian wrote: @Nick: I'm not too obsessed with label definitions really, even though I admit that my posting reads differently. The first sentence I wrote was fun to write, but I'm not too invested in it. I see it like that indeed, but to me it isn't very important whether others see it differently. At the time we (people around me and the media I followed) didn't count these bands into punk, rather they had taken up the punk influence to do something different. Also some musicians said so in interviews. For me personally punk is quite specific, not an overarching supercategory as prog, let alone rock. This was the attitude I got at the time, but I was quite young and my horizon may have been limited. At the end of the day there is not more objective truth in it than in what you say, so fair enough. Ultimately all music is what it is, whether it is called this or that is secondary.

Lewian wrote: This is as punk as anything if you ask me.

Sean Trane wrote: Lewian wrote: This is as punk as anything if you ask me. (...) Sonically, maybe/yes. Spiritually not likely. Attitude-wise , no Lyrics-wise, not a chance.

Lewian wrote: Sean Trane wrote: Lewian wrote: This is as punk as anything if you ask me. (...) Sonically, maybe/yes. Spiritually not likely. Attitude-wise , no Lyrics-wise, not a chance. OK I have exaggerated... I mean as punk as what most seem to call punk here. Anyway, for sure ADII had a similar anti-establishment attitude as the punks later. Also in the early days they were very inclusive, everybody who could hold an instrument could be a musician. It's true that ADII was the core of the more ambitious musicians of the original Amon Duul and some of them became quite good over time, but on the first albums lack of technical professionalism surely still shows, and that was not an accident; they were still well connected to their anarchist roots (in fact you can still hear this even on their 2010 album); music was fun and a group experience rather than something that required sophisticated education and training. Lyrics-wise I'm with you, and of course 20 minute improvisations are not a punk thing (for which reason I chose that song).

I love lots of more experimental post-punk music and art punk. I love thinks deemed proto-punk and punk proper (The Velvet Underground, The Stooges...). Some of this may be questionable and sorry for not being very diverse.

Bauhaus - In the Flat Field (Gothic Rock Post-Punk)
Daughters - You Won't Get What You Want (Noise Industrial Rock, Art Punk)
Nick Cave and The Bad Seeds - Let Love In (Alternative Rock. Post-Punk)
Joy Division - Unknown Pleasures (Post-Punk, Gothic Rock)
Melt-Banana - Cell-Scape (Noise Rock, Hardcore Punk)
Pere Ubu - The Modern Dance (Post-Punk, Experimental Rock)
Phew - Phew (Post-Punk, Experimental Rock)
PiL - Metal Box (Post-Punk, Experimental Rock)
Iggy Pop - The Idiot (Art Rock, Post-Punk)
The Smiths - The Queen Is Dead (Indie Pop, Post-Punk)
Television - Marquee Moon (Art Punk, Art Rock...)
This Heat - Deceit (Experimental Rock, Post-Punk)
Xiu Xiu - Knife Play (Experimental Rock, Synth Punk)

I've seen an album like The Cure's Disintegration, which I love, described as Post-Punk, but while it intersects with punk, it isn't how I think of it.   Many of my favourite bands and artists have had punk elements and been influenced by punk, such as Swans and Cardiacs and Jon Zorn as well as the mentioned This Heat, which I don't think of as that punk). I did a punk appreciation topic: http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=122918 Ended up having to moderate myself, hide a couple of my posts and for penance punish my ears with painful punky Crunk for having channeled my inner punk too much. If only it was so easy to channel my inner genius....

Logan wrote: Some of this may be questionable and sorry for not being very diverse.

Edited by David_D - April 24 2022 at 05:04

Just for variety, some fine hardcore punk albums I love from the 80s:

MDC | Millions of Dead Cops - only about 20 minutes long but it has me on the edge of my seat. The vocals are the best part, mirroring and amplifying the music with urgent and angry rants against police brutality (they were a band from Texas with a gay lead singer - use your imagination as to how they were treated) and other redneck concerns

Conflict | Increase the Pressure — British punks and friends of Crass, but quite a bit faster and louder, and just as political. Bands that play this loud and fast really have to work hard to get emotions like this across, and not that many could really pull it off

Minor Threat | Complete Discography- here’s another band that could. They’ve generously put everything they released on a single CD (still in print, on their own label, Dischord), so it’s easy to obtain and essential hardcore listening.

David_D wrote: Logan wrote: Some of this may be questionable and sorry for not being very diverse. My mentioning the "diverse" is just to point at different sub-genre possibilities, it's not meant as a requirement.