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    Posted: March 25 2022 at 21:56
Originally posted by Dark Ness Dark Ness wrote:

^ You're right, you had already mentioned that setting and it works well.
Coming next: the phase test/config routine...


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^ You're right, you had already mentioned that setting and it works well.
Coming next: the phase test/config routine...

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Originally posted by Dark Ness Dark Ness wrote:

SVS recommends for my LS the following settings :
 low pass filter 50 hz with a slope 24db/octave

I'll try this and report soon, in the meantime I welcome any comment from the more experienced around.
thanks guys
As mentioned, 50Hz should be your staring point considering your mains freq response. PM coming.....


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SVS recommends for my LS the following settings :
 low pass filter 50 hz with a slope 24db/octave

I'll try this and report soon, in the meantime I welcome any comment from the more experienced around.
thanks guys


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^ I'll follow up your hint and get back with news soon.
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Originally posted by Dark Ness Dark Ness wrote:

Originally posted by Catcher10 Catcher10 wrote:


Unnatural could also mean, your not used to hearing the full frequency of music. Remember in todays world of iPhones and ear buds and clinical sounding of CDs, we are not used to full range sounds anymore or what some call warm sounds.


Precisely, we're on the same page (And that's what the sw is supposed to provide) what I mean by "unnatural" is not blending to the mix and standing out with a little too much reverb, if it's the correct expression, I'm lacking the right words maybe.
(could this be related to the crossover setting you asked just a while ago?)
Yes, if you set the cross over too high your going to excite frequencies that don't need it, like 100Hz and higher, that's where the boominess will come from.
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Originally posted by Dark Ness Dark Ness wrote:

-5 dB

Might be too loud.......What does the back panel show for volume and crossover? Could be the blend issue yes.


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Originally posted by Catcher10 Catcher10 wrote:


Unnatural could also mean, your not used to hearing the full frequency of music. Remember in todays world of iPhones and ear buds and clinical sounding of CDs, we are not used to full range sounds anymore or what some call warm sounds.


Precisely, we're on the same page (And that's what the sw is supposed to provide) what I mean by "unnatural" is not blending to the mix and standing out with a little too much reverb, if it's the correct expression, I'm lacking the right words maybe.
(could this be related to the crossover setting you asked just a while ago?)
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Originally posted by Dark Ness Dark Ness wrote:

I'm noticing a little too much boost when the bass pedals kick in, not enough to be unpleasant but stands out as kind of unnatural, the other frequencies are more balanced it seems

Unnatural could also mean, your not used to hearing the full frequency of music. Remember in todays world of iPhones and ear buds and clinical sounding of CDs, we are not used to full range sounds anymore or what some call warm sounds.
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Originally posted by Dark Ness Dark Ness wrote:

I'm noticing a little too much boost when the bass pedals kick in, not enough to be unpleasant but stands out as kind of unnatural, the other frequencies are more balanced it seems
Could be the sub volume is too high..where is it set at?
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Originally posted by Dark Ness Dark Ness wrote:

Thanks !
Good question ... only starting to understand the BT app settings, it's a first time remember.
Do you use the app too ? (and any suggestion, btw)

Only the Pro models have the app, I don't, so I have to go behind and make adjustments, which is fine cause once set no need to fool with it.
Sub setup can be involving, it's a detailed process I go thru which I can detail later if you want. 
But start here:
Your mains can play down to 35Hz, so suggest you cross over around 50Hz to start. Set the sub volume at 50%. The phase leave at 0 for now, that one to set optimally is the process. Now listen to music for the next day or so to get a baseline. I'll detail my process in another post.
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I'm noticing a little too much boost when the bass pedals kick in, not enough to be unpleasant but stands out as kind of unnatural, the other frequencies are more balanced it seems
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Thanks !
Good question ... only starting to understand the BT app settings, it's a first time remember.
Do you use the app too ? (and any suggestion, btw)

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Originally posted by Dark Ness Dark Ness wrote:

After an entertaining visit to the showroom I went for the SVS SB1000 Pro since couldn't hear any significant downside compared to the much pricier 2000 model, but that's me and my two aging ears, could certainly work differently for anyone else.

I've already switched the SW to the stereo and listening now to Underfall Yard 2021 remaster, what a shame David L is no longer with us, love his singing.

The sw surely adds an enjoyable punch to the whole experience, loving it, hope the wife doesn't contest the new box in the living room floor (placed it next to the rightside LS as per the seller suggestion)

There you go, congrats! Right side is where I had mine when I only had one.........Where do you have the sub crossed over at?
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Thanks everybody and specially to José for the particular insight, much appreciated Thumbs Up
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After an entertaining visit to the showroom I went for the SVS SB1000 Pro since couldn't hear any significant downside compared to the much pricier 2000 model, but that's me and my two aging ears, could certainly work differently for anyone else.

I've already switched the SW to the stereo and listening now to Underfall Yard 2021 remaster, what a shame David L is no longer with us, love his singing.

The sw surely adds an enjoyable punch to the whole experience, loving it, hope the wife doesn't contest the new box in the living room floor (placed it next to the rightside LS as per the seller suggestion)

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Originally posted by Catcher10 Catcher10 wrote:

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I bet, those are great speakers and could fetch $1500.00 on the used market easily depending on condition. You don't need a midrange driver, those speakers should be crossed over at a point that covers the lower and upper midrange. It just means the crossover is allowing the woofer to play higher up and the Heil tweeter to play lower, versus a 3-way speaker that would have a dedicated driver to play the midrange frequencies. 

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Catcher10 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 15 2022 at 18:14
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It's not THAT bad ! Embarrassed
I mean, she doesn't smoke anymore. Wink


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It's not THAT bad ! Embarrassed
I mean, she doesn't smoke anymore. Wink

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