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Some good stuff in this poll! On the first page I'm particularly drawn to Paolo Conte and Giorgi Mikadze. Lluis Llach's one is impressive and touching with the story behind it, although it has some parts I can't relate to easily.


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Originally posted by Lewian Lewian wrote:

Some good stuff in this poll! On the first page I'm particularly drawn to Paolo Conte and Giorgi Mikadze. Lluis Llach's one is impressive and touching with the story behind it, although it has some parts I can't relate to easily.

Mikadze’s album was one of my absolute favourites from 2020. I’m glad Moaning spoke to you, as it does to me. It’s such an emotive and affective song.

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the flooding of southeast Queensland and northeast New South Wales.
 I should say that I was one of the lucky ones. Although the weather station a few kilometres from where I live recorded (just over 2 feet) over three days, 275mm (just under 11 inches) on the first day, there was no floodin634mm g at my home. And I was able to drive to the supermarket without encountering flooded roads. Thus it would appear that the suburb where I live is quite well drained. But other people were not so lucky. Some places received much higher rainfall, or they were close to rivers that broke their banks. At least ten people lost their lives.

Thank goodness you're ok! I am afraid that, Australia has been at risk of experiencing genuine, serious natural disasters, and that for at least the last two decades. It’s like yesterday that those terrible bushfires happened. I have friends in Australia. I don’t know exactly but it seems to me that the intervals are getting shorter, and the extent of the damages is increasing gradually?

Thank you for the great music! Indeed, there are many factors that influence our well-being, esp. in these turbulent times. I found in particular this song by Peter Hammill very intense and touching, both musically and lyrically!


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Hey, welcome back to the polls Jose!
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Originally posted by Mila-13 Mila-13 wrote:

Thank goodness you're ok! I am afraid that, Australia has been at risk of experiencing genuine, serious natural disasters, and that for at least the last two decades. It’s like yesterday that those terrible bushfires happened. I have friends in Australia. I don’t know exactly but it seems to me that the intervals are getting shorter, and the extent of the damages is increasing gradually?
 
Thanks. The disaster is still continuing with flooding in the Sydney region. And to add insult to injury, early this morning, parts of southeast Queensland were lashed with severe thunderstorms, with hail and heavy rain falling on an already drenched landscape.
 
 
Originally posted by Mila-13 Mila-13 wrote:

Thank you for the great music! Indeed, there are many factors that influence our well-being, esp. in these turbulent times. I found in particular this song by Peter Hammill very intense and touching, both musically and lyrically!
 
I'm glad you enjoyed it. This track was my introduction to Peter Hammill solo. I first heard it on a radio station I regularly listened to about a year or two after the album was released (it was a good radio station... they even played The Residents). I already had a few Van der Graaf Generator albums at this time, but liked that this track was quite different to VdGG (nothing against VdGG though). Just how much of a contrast there is between Peter Hammill and VdGG can be heard by playing Emperor In His War-Room immediately after Porton Down.
 

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First takes on Page Two, which, unusually, had more entries than Page One.  First one is an addition from Christian:

Christian:  Art Zoyd “Complainte”  Very dark sound here, with some deep bell-like sounds (vibes?), a few whiddlies and underneath, at almost walking space, a sound of subdued strumming of strings.  Male vocal comes across, very disturbing sort of singing, in accord with the general tone.  The pace picks up a bit with the vibes coming more to the fore, some more vocals and sort of hornlike sounds (synths?) peppering the piece.  

George:  Tracy Bonham “Mother Mother”  Begins as a sort of singer/songwriter start, then gets very alt-rock.  Lots of angst here!  It seems to me that every generation has a worse time of it than the one before.  This states that pretty clearly.  Abrupt ending to the piece, when Mom switches her off. 

dr wu23:  Marvin Gaye “What’s Going On:  Absolute classic, of course I’m familiar with it, but boy, does it suit the times.  You sure picked the right thing for the mood.

JD:  Big Pig “Hungry Time”  Well, this is lighthearted, which, I would assume comes from your scent of a delicious dinner cooking.  Never heard this one, a very 80’s kind of bouncy, happy tune.  Hope your ribs turned out great! 

Logan:  Radiohead “Daydreaming”  I actually am not familiar with Radiohead, although I do know the name, believe it or not.  Pretty repeating piano notes and subdued orchestral sound underneath.  A quavering male vocal, with some strings becoming more prominent in the mix.  There are some pretty, angelic wavy choral effects and a big swell in the instrumentation, then a wavering in the mix.  The string section creates a sort of wasplike noise (may be being done on synths. Then a drop back down to piano and some whhhhhuuuuuums (maybe backward vocals?).   I quite liked this one.

tigerfeet:  Pink Floyd “Breathe”  Iconic Pink Floyd song, of course.  And resonated with so many over all of these years.  Important to remind oneself to breathe in tough times.  Very soothing piece as well, as it is meant to be.  Beautiful tune.

I prophesy disaster:  Hope you continue to stay safe in the floods there, flooding is no joke.  Peter Hammill “Porton Down”  A bit jarring start with discordance and an effected vocal, which is appropriate for the piece.  Whangly guitars and vocal continues to shout warnings, with sax joining in to add to the unsettling atmosphere.  Pretty astute lyrically, as far as chemical, ecologic and nuclear warfare.  Van der Graaf Generator “Emperor In His War-Room: The Emperor/The Room” Very soothing after the last piece, with lightness from keyboards and a gentle vocal.  Flute, organ and vocals all become much more strident, than back to the verses, more gentle, and drums softly accent the piece.  Back to the verses/choruses and continues in the same back and forth to the end, with some choral touches and organ notes in closing.  Van der Graaf Generator “After the Flood”  Heavy organs and Hammill’s strident voice, then the chorus is sung in softer tones, but still the singsong sort of style that Hammill affects.  Drops to just voice and acoustic guitar for just a moment, then keys, drums and stridency again.  Flute and sax come to the fore for a bit.  Plenty of cacophony in this piece to the end.  10cc “You’ve Got A Cold”  Kind of a shuffly/bluesy song about having a cold.  Certainly most people can relate to at least having this happen in their life.  May as well sing a funny song, but they should have all held their noses when singing, lol.  Hope yours is gone by bow.  Alice In Chains “Rooster”  High choral oooohs over strummed electric guitar.  Deep voiced male lead singer in a classic rock style (I do remember the band, but not that familiar with the repertoire, good band as I recall).  Kicks into full heavy sound about 1/3rd in, with a bridge and then back to the song.  Lots of vocal pyrotechnics with the heaviness in instrumentation continuing. Back to the more stripped back, pensive sound of the beginning with a fuzzed guitar lead underneath.  Goes out the way it came in.  Godley & Crème “The Flood”  Sounds of toothbrushing (I think).  Did the guy leave the water on and go to work?  The water sounds get more ominous, like someone sloshing through water.  The pace picks up, with drips and drops and sloshing, now in a recognizable beat.  About halfway in, musical instrumentation kicks in, with electric guitars and then cellos.  More of a string section comes in with some wah wah guitars and plinkies continue with the waterdrop sounds.  The guitar becomes whanging style.  Full band enters with drums and bass and sounds of crowd (didn’t realize it was live), then band exits the stage with a sort of crash sound and the water gurgling away. 

Cristi:  Audioplastik “Distant Skies”  Synths I think are creating the strings and harp-ish sounds.  There is a full orchestral sound swell, then an impassioned vocal.  Sort of a heavy prog sound with lots of electric guitar during the chorus.  Tasty lead guitar as the tension in the piece builds and goes to mostly drums and guitar washes.  Goes back into chorus and comes to a fade, similar to the way the piece started. 


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Originally posted by Snicolette Snicolette wrote:

First takes on Page Two, which, unusually, had more entries than Page One.

JD:  Big Pig “Hungry Time”  Well, this is lighthearted, which, I would assume comes from your scent of a delicious dinner cooking.  Never heard this one, a very 80’s kind of bouncy, happy tune.  Hope your ribs turned out great!

With all of the anxiety going on recently I chose to focus on something a little more basic for how I was feeling.
Good guess, it's a 1988 release.

And the ribs? Well, they were great. Have a look, sorry you couldn't have a taste. Wink




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Originally posted by JD JD wrote:

Originally posted by Snicolette Snicolette wrote:

First takes on Page Two, which, unusually, had more entries than Page One.

JD:  Big Pig “Hungry Time”  Well, this is lighthearted, which, I would assume comes from your scent of a delicious dinner cooking.  Never heard this one, a very 80’s kind of bouncy, happy tune.  Hope your ribs turned out great!

With all of the anxiety going on recently I chose to focus on something a little more basic for how I was feeling.
Good guess, it's a 1988 release.

And the ribs? Well, they were great. Have a look, sorry you couldn't have a taste. Wink


  They do look great!  
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Originally posted by Snicolette Snicolette wrote:

Pink Floyd “Breathe”  Iconic Pink Floyd song, of course.  And resonated with so many over all of these years.  Important to remind oneself to breathe in tough times.  Very soothing piece as well, as it is meant to be.  Beautiful tune.

Thanks Nickie, it has always been one of my favorite songs and best enjoyed when played unexpectedly. It can appeal in many different ways depending on ones mood at the time, or circumstance. 

Oh wow! yes, JD, those ribs look delicious and I don't eat much meat these days

I may have to change what's on the menu tonight  Wink




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Originally posted by tigerfeet tigerfeet wrote:

Originally posted by Snicolette Snicolette wrote:

Pink Floyd “Breathe”  Iconic Pink Floyd song, of course.  And resonated with so many over all of these years.  Important to remind oneself to breathe in tough times.  Very soothing piece as well, as it is meant to be.  Beautiful tune.

Thanks Nickie, it has always been one of my favorite songs and best enjoyed when played unexpectedly. It can appeal in many different ways depending on ones mood at the time, or circumstance. 

That is it's great appeal, sort of a panacea piece of music.
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Originally posted by Mila-13 Mila-13 wrote:

Thank goodness you're ok! I am afraid that, Australia has been at risk of experiencing genuine, serious natural disasters, and that for at least the last two decades. It’s like yesterday that those terrible bushfires happened. I have friends in Australia. I don’t know exactly but it seems to me that the intervals are getting shorter, and the extent of the damages is increasing gradually?
 
Thanks. The disaster is still continuing with flooding in the Sydney region. And to add insult to injury, early this morning, parts of southeast Queensland were lashed with severe thunderstorms, with hail and heavy rain falling on an already drenched landscape.
 
Originally posted by Mila-13 Mila-13 wrote:

Thank you for the great music! Indeed, there are many factors that influence our well-being, esp. in these turbulent times. I found in particular this song by Peter Hammill very intense and touching, both musically and lyrically!
 
I'm glad you enjoyed it. This track was my introduction to Peter Hammill solo. I first heard it on a radio station I regularly listened to about a year or two after the album was released (it was a good radio station... they even played The Residents). I already had a few Van der Graaf Generator albums at this time, but liked that this track was quite different to VdGG (nothing against VdGG though). Just how much of a contrast there is between Peter Hammill and VdGG can be heard by playing Emperor In His War-Room immediately after Porton Down.

I'm not familiar with this band. I only realized that Peter Hammill was a member of it when I read their bio. I was quite surprised! - Is there an Australian music radio station that you can recommend? All I know is triple and double J but that's not exactly what I'm looking for. They have various programms but the time difference is a major factor of coursel.

How does the community mechanism work in the field of civil protection, are there any preventive measures that citizens have to take?

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Godley & Crème “The Flood”  Sounds of toothbrushing (I think).  Did the guy leave the water on and go to work?  The water sounds get more ominous, like someone sloshing through water.  The pace picks up, with drips and drops and sloshing, now in a recognizable beat.  About halfway in, musical instrumentation kicks in, with electric guitars and then cellos.  More of a string section comes in with some wah wah guitars and plinkies continue with the waterdrop sounds.  The guitar becomes whanging style.  Full band enters with drums and bass and sounds of crowd (didn’t realize it was live), then band exits the stage with a sort of crash sound and the water gurgling away.
 
I was actually quite curious as to what you were going to say about this particular track. It would seem that this track is best understood in the context of the full concept album. "Consequences" is a triple LP about an angry mother nature turning against humanity because of how we are treating the planet (the anthropomorphised clouds on the cover is quite telling). It was also a demonstration of the "Gizmo", an electric guitar effect device that Godley and Creme had invented a few years earlier as a means of providing orchestral textures. The album starts peacefully enough, then turns quite ominous as various disasters start to occur throughout the world. Such disasters include destructive winds, animal stampedes, and fire. "The Flood" starts with the accumulation of water, but concludes with an open-air rock concert which is suddenly washed away by a deluge. That sound sends chills up my spine, and I imagine hearing it for the first time would have been quite startling. And you know from the gurgling water sound that everybody died.
 

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Originally posted by I prophesy disaster I prophesy disaster wrote:

Originally posted by Snicolette Snicolette wrote:

Godley & Crème “The Flood”  Sounds of toothbrushing (I think).  Did the guy leave the water on and go to work?  The water sounds get more ominous, like someone sloshing through water.  The pace picks up, with drips and drops and sloshing, now in a recognizable beat.  About halfway in, musical instrumentation kicks in, with electric guitars and then cellos.  More of a string section comes in with some wah wah guitars and plinkies continue with the waterdrop sounds.  The guitar becomes whanging style.  Full band enters with drums and bass and sounds of crowd (didn’t realize it was live), then band exits the stage with a sort of crash sound and the water gurgling away.
 
I was actually quite curious as to what you were going to say about this particular track. It would seem that this track is best understood in the context of the full concept album. "Consequences" is a triple LP about an angry mother nature turning against humanity because of how we are treating the planet (the anthropomorphised clouds on the cover is quite telling). It was also a demonstration of the "Gizmo", an electric guitar effect device that Godley and Creme had invented a few years earlier as a means of providing orchestral textures. The album starts peacefully enough, then turns quite ominous as various disasters start to occur throughout the world. Such disasters include destructive winds, animal stampedes, and fire. "The Flood" starts with the accumulation of water, but concludes with an open-air rock concert which is suddenly washed away by a deluge. That sound sends chills up my spine, and I imagine hearing it for the first time would have been quite startling. And you know from the gurgling water sound that everybody died.
 

  Thank you for the full explanation.  Indeed, I was just taking what I was hearing for the one piece and what it sounded like with no visual clues, or background of the full album.  It was a really interesting listen.
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Surreal confusion and frustration with everything..........


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Another version of 'What's  Goin On'...by another band from another place....Wink

"Our instruments have no way of measuring this feeling
Can never cut below the floor, or penetrate the ceiling.
In the space between our houses, some bones have been discovered,
But our procession lurches on, as if we had recovered.........."




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A very ambiguous time, I'm over the moon with so many concerts and other cultural events (way more than before covid) but I can't shake the feeling of remorse for having fun when there's conflict on the other side of the continent. This song was written during Cold War and I think it expresses a similar feeling although slightly exaggerated.


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Keep 'em coming... I'd say final nomination please by the end of Sunday.

This one may be hard to appreciate without understanding the German lyrics.
"I've died for you
To make you survive your sick life
How can you bear
That you haven't given me a chance from the beginning?

I've died for you
The smell of fire always hangs over you
You call it history of the world
But as of today you're only animal experimentation

Now I reach for the waste falling from the rich table of the Lord
Somewhere far away up there
On the cadaver star." 

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Originally posted by Mila-13 Mila-13 wrote:

I'm not familiar with this band. I only realized that Peter Hammill was a member of it when I read their bio. I was quite surprised!
 
I'm somewhat surprised by this. I thought everyone on this site knew Van der Graaf Generator. On the other hand, pretty much nobody I speak to in real life has ever heard of them.
 
 
Originally posted by Mila-13 Mila-13 wrote:

Is there an Australian music radio station that you can recommend? All I know is triple and double J but that's not exactly what I'm looking for. They have various programmes but the time difference is a major factor of course.
 
I more-or-less stopped listening to the radio years ago (apart from other people having it on). When I did listen to the radio, the station was usually Triple J. Triple J started its life in the 70s as the Sydney AM radio station 2JJ (I grew up in Sydney). It should be noted that Australia was not big on Progressive Rock. The music 2JJ played was what we would now call "classic rock" with a substantial Australian content. They did play prog, but my main exposure to prog was from elsewhere. This was however after the classic period of prog. In the late 70s, they shifted to Reggae and New Wave. But even during the 80s, they (as Triple J) still played some prog. They always played music that was alternative to commercial pop. I occasionally turn on the radio to hear what sort of music they are playing, but currently have no idea how to describe it.
 
 
Originally posted by Mila-13 Mila-13 wrote:

How does the community mechanism work in the field of civil protection, are there any preventive measures that citizens have to take?
 
I wasn't sure what you're asking here, but recalled a recent documentary that said all Swiss people have a bomb shelter. There is nothing like that in Australia. In the event of a disaster, Australians can call upon emergency services, and there are messaging services that warn people of impending disaster. But there are no preparatory measures required to be taken by ordinary citizens. In particular, there is currently no conscription of Australian citizens into the military.
 



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First listen through Page Three, with 2 additions to Logan's:

Logan: Rocky Horror Picture Show “I’m Going Home”  Haven’t seen this film in many, many years, went in it’s heyday to see it at an art theater, with the full-on audience participation happening. I hope you start to feel less like you are sleepwalking in your life, I’ve felt that way sometimes, too, as has probably everyone.  Michael Gira “Blind”  Begins with guitar and a choral sort of wash.  Deep voiced male vocal.  A song of looking back over one’s life and realizing how little one really knew, and indeed, how much one kept hidden from oneself.  A reflective self-discovery piece. 

George:  Mountain “Tired Angels (To J.M.H.)”  I haven’t heard this in ages.  There is a certain sound to Mountain that is very indicative of the time in which it was recorded.  Heavy, fuzzy and referencing Tolkien to boot.  What's not to like?  Thanks for bringing this out of the dark recesses of my memory.

Mila:  Out of Competition Gubaidulina “In tempus praesens (Concerto for Violin and Orchestra)“  Solo violin beginning.  Ominous and disconcerted feel to the violin solo parts, the orchestral parts emphasize the sense of unease.  Certainly fitting in our uncertain times. 


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