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Metropolis 
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 Posted: January 05 2005 at 20:29 |
 frenchie wrote:
i am surprised dream theater arent on there. They are
one of the best musically abled bands out there. Didn't they all go to
a special musician college for years? Their music is so technical and
advanced, the band can make dreamlike shredding solos, keyboard works,
drum beats, 6 string bass lines and immense vocals look so easy, yet
they are very complicated and difficult to play, making people drool at
the sight of their godly talents.
They
can even keep it up for live sets that are around 3 hours long and all
of their incredible studio albums, never running out of brilliant
ideas, experimental work, concepts and best of all, a huge range of the
most incredible, original and challenging musician work ever! |
Only Portnoy, Petrucci and Myung attended Berkley, and they all dropped
out after a year since they were making it big elsewhere, but totally
agree that they are well ahead of the field in terms of technical
ability, but in their absence I voted for Yes (and I'm only 19)
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Fragile
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Posted: January 05 2005 at 20:51 |
A very wise decision Metropolis. My daughter's 17 totally into prog and has already seen lots of bands. The names you mentioned are very good musicians, but Yes are the masters of all and always have, and will be, even well into their 60's, but, great to see youth as you into the very best of music.
Fragile
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Metropolis
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Posted: January 05 2005 at 20:52 |
Why thank you, that's good to hear, even if you are older than my mum 
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Fragile
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Posted: January 05 2005 at 21:03 |
Touche Metropolis But if only your eyes could have seen what my eyes have seen.I'm talking strictly music.
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Metropolis
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Posted: January 05 2005 at 21:06 |
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I totally agree, i wish i could have grown up in the 70's, must have been amazing
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Eddy
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Posted: January 05 2005 at 21:11 |
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me too. and live in california and be with all the hi[pppies! Then i could dance naked without ppersicusion. that would be heaven!
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DallasBryan
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Posted: January 05 2005 at 23:03 |
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I chose Pink Floyd, because of
1. Rick Wright - was the most universal keyboardist
of all listed, while Wakeman, Banks and Emerson
where playing ditties with their electronics, Rick was
already creating atmospheres and soundscapes.
2. David Gilmore - his psychedelic licks deserved
center stage in the biggest progressive band of all
time.
3. Roger Waters - bass was more of a musical
barometer than squeezing out notes as well as a
vocalist that could write epics and concept albums.
4. Nick Mason - drummer with uncanny nack to pull it
all together.
a nod over ELP and Yes, with Gentle Giant the most
advanced with difficult time changes and bizarre
vocal arrangements.
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maani
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Posted: January 05 2005 at 23:17 |
I'm with richardw here: there has never been a band of better, more versatile and virtuosic - the word specifically used by the creator of this thread - musicians than Gentle Giant. Does this mean Kerry Minnear is better than Rick Wakeman? No, but it doesn't have to. It simply means that Minnear is not only an excellent all-around, virtuoso keyboardist, but that his playing, style, etc. "fit" with GG as well as anything Wakeman did with Yes. The same for all the other musicians in GG. And let's not forget that each of them is a multi-instrumentalist, with Minnear playing keys, cello, vibes, recorder, glockenspeil, percussion - all at virtuoso level - and all the others playing at least five instruments at very high if not virtuosic levels.
Thus, my order would be:
Gentle Giant
Yes (Anderson, Bruford, Howe, Squire, Wakeman)
ELP
UK (w/Bruford, not Bozzio)
Genesis (circa Selling England and The Lamb)
I also notice that only english-speaking bands are represented. Personally, I think the musicians in Deus ex Machina are easily equal to anyone represented in the poll. Again, based on the word "virtuoso" used by the creator of the thread.
Peace.
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Peter
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Posted: January 05 2005 at 23:24 |
Metropolis wrote:
I totally agree, i wish i could have grown up in the 70's, must have been amazing |
Disco comes from the 70s. Punk too.
Lots of good music, sure -- but plenty of mindless, irritating radio crap, too.
Thermonuclear war threatened us all -- that felt more terrifying, or depressing, than amazing -- at least to me.
We weren't all (3F excepted) running off to San Francisco, naked but for the flowers in our hair, you know. We went to school. We worked. We got killed in Vietnam. Our parents were likely stricter than yours, too.
It mostly felt pretty normal and mundane at the time.
Now the 60s, on the other hand, were one big acid-dropping orgy/love in! All was bliss! Even cats and dogs used to get along....
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"And, has thou slain the Jabberwock?
Come to my arms, my beamish boy!
O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!'
He chortled in his joy.
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Eddy
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Posted: January 05 2005 at 23:40 |
eh? i thought hippie power was still strong in that time? it wasnt. i made a really big mistake! and the comment about my parents not being strick:all i can say HA! YEA RIGHT!ps:i like the pinky color you added to increase the effect of hippie time 60's, you have talent!
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Ivan_Melgar_M
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Posted: January 05 2005 at 23:55 |
Why everybody forgets about Steve Hackett, by large the prog' guitarist with better and more solo works.
Hackett is by far more versatile than Howe, if you notice Howe has played Your Move and Clap as hsi solo pieces for more than 30 years in each and every concert without change, as if he hadn't anything more to impress the audience.
Hes an awesome player but believe me neither of both tracks is really a challenging piece, both are in fact very simple, no comparison with Horizons and the two solo works Hackett plays in each cocert, because he hardly repeats a piece.
My two cents.
Iván
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threefates
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Posted: January 06 2005 at 00:09 |
Fragile wrote:
Reed lover you are as unbelievably silly as Three fates and as blind to your faves but comparing any of these to the best musicians in the business namely the Yes boys is carrying your personal loves into the realms of fantasy. I'm sure if Clowny was around he'd agree with me |
Surely you jest... First .. Keith was like a combination of Tony Kaye, Rick Wakeman & Patrick Moraz all in one. He could handle a Hammond, any synth, and a grand piano... and even a grand piano spinning around in the air... never heard Tony or Rick do much decent piano work, and Patrick could do piano but wasn't all that great on a hammond... neither could Rick or Tony... so there is no way that any keyboardiest from Yes could compare talent wise to Keith Emerson...
Second - Greg Lake - played bass, lead guitar and acoustic... sometimes all in one song... and he sang all the vocals (like an angel, no less). He had the hardest working guitar roadie in the business. Never saw Steve Howe play bass, or Chris Squire play lead or acousitc.. and both of them have no vocal talent... they just don't have the talent or the flexibility that Greg has. Then Jon Anderson's vocals sound like he's on helium or at least wearing extremely tight underwear most the time. So thats 3 guys in Yes that can't compare to Greg.
Then there's Carl. Carl's just amazing... I think he's an alien, he has the fasted one handed drum roll I've ever seen... he's been classically trained on all percussion instruments including concert tympani, the glockenspiel, the xylophone, gongs, bells, etc, etc... He plays with more emotion than I've ever seen Alan or Bill play with. I think thats one of the main things that I know... you feel him when he plays... its emotional.
So you guys can vote for your favorite bands... but I know that technically and emotionally... ELP will always be the best!! 
And of course, the best looking group as well!!!!!!!!!!!!
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DallasBryan
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Posted: January 06 2005 at 01:19 |
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several of Rick Wakemans keyboards, synthesizers
and samplers were built and demostrated by Larry
Fast of Nektar. Why is he not included as part of
Peter Gabriels band?
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Rob The Good
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Posted: January 06 2005 at 01:55 |
I went with the mass and chose Yes. They're all fantastic musicians. ELP came a VERY close second!
In a way, I was almost tempted to choose Asia because Steve Howe was an amazing guitarist, Carl Palmer THE great drummer, Geoff Downes was a more than adequate keyboardist (but no Wakeman or Emerson) and John Wetton was a brilliant bassist/singer, and I am a great admirer of what he did with UK, Roxy Music and King Crimson.
I went for Yes however, because even though Asia had a ton of talent it was most definitely never realised in a Prog sense (but I do like them as a melodic rock band...NOT Prog!) 
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And Jesus said unto John, "come forth and receive eternal life..."
Unfortunately, John came fifth and was stuck with a toaster.
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Swinton MCR
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Posted: January 06 2005 at 04:20 |
It's all about opinions but DallasBryan - Richard Wright ?? - Wakeman could outplay him with his feet !!!!
Wright is effective but nothing he does with Floyd puts him on a par with virtually any other prog keyboardist (except perhaps Kaye).....
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Blacksword
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Posted: January 06 2005 at 04:45 |
Reed Lover wrote:
Prog_Bassist wrote:
rush is my favorite band. Geddy is unreal bassist, neil in an unreal drummer, and alex is...ok guitarist. Alex is, in my opinion, along for the ride.
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There are no stupid answers...only stupid people!
Everyone is entitled to an opinion.............but some people abuse that freedom.
Just shows you can listen to something without hearing!
Alex Lifeson is just along for the ride?????????????????????????
This place gets more and more surreal every day!
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Couldn't agree more!! Alex Lifeson is a very skilled musician, as skilled as the other two at what he does. He gets overshadowed by the other two not because he is not as good, but because not many bass players and drummers are as obviously brilliant as Lee and Peart.
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Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy!
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Velvetclown
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Posted: January 06 2005 at 05:02 |
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Of the above : Jethro Tull.
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Blacksword
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Posted: January 06 2005 at 05:06 |
In the absence of Rush I voted Yes, but considered voting ELP.
Neither Yes or ELP are among my favourite bands, but there is no disputing the immense talent of Wakeman and Emmerson.
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Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy!
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Reed Lover
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Posted: January 06 2005 at 06:16 |
Sweetnighter wrote:
Reed Lover wrote:
Sweetnighter wrote:
Reed Lover wrote:
Sweetnighter wrote:
Prog_Bassist wrote:
rush is my favorite band. Geddy is unreal bassist, neil in an unreal drummer, and alex is...ok guitarist. Alex is, in my opinion, along for the ride.
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first, i must say that my vote is for RUSH
as to your comment on Lifeson, I don't think its that he's along for the ride so much in terms of riding on the skill of Lee and Peart, Lifeson is an outstanding guitarist in his own right and the band definitely wouldn't be the band it was/is without him... despite that, I do agree with you in the sense that he doesn't contribute to the band creatively speaking. I think he's just one of those guys who wants to bust out a mad solo... whether he had been playing in Pink Floyd, Led Zeppelin, or Rush... I mean, he stands out among his band members. While his band members write and read deep philosophy, peart in particular, he's getting arrested for assaulting a cop in florida while drunk.
btw, i got geddy lee's solo album in the mail finally today... i'll make a post in the CD section later once i get through it.
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Lifeson writes most of the music.............................doesn't contribute creatively?????
Something seriously wrong amongst the Rush "fans" around here!!!!!!
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really? i thought lee did... 
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Are you for real or just trying to yank my chain ?
Lifeson writes most of the music in collaboration with Lee!
How long did you say you's been a Rush fan?
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Well I know they write the music together, I was just under the impression from what I've read in the past that Lee wrote most of the music as opposed to Lifeson...
I first discovered the band this summer. Now I own Fly By Night, Caress, 2112, Farewell, Hemispheres, Waves, Pictures, Signals, GUP, Hold Your Fire, and Counterparts
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I first discovered Rush in Summer-the Summer of 1975.........
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Posted: January 06 2005 at 06:23 |
Ye old git !!!! 
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