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Heart of the Matter ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: September 01 2020 Location: Argentina Status: Offline Points: 3585 |
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1 Nietzsche
2 Schopenhauer 3 Leibniz 4 Adorno 5 Hendrix 6 Disraeli Multiple votes allowed. Ready? Go! |
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Man With Hat ![]() Collaborator ![]() ![]() Jazz-Rock/Fusion/Canterbury Team Joined: March 12 2005 Location: Neurotica Status: Offline Points: 166183 |
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despite life being a mistake, i do like that nietzsche quote
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Dig me...But don't...Bury me
I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect. |
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Psychedelic Paul ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: September 16 2019 Location: Nottingham, U.K Status: Offline Points: 43871 |
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Music was my first love And it will be my last Music of the future And music of the past To live without my music Would be impossible to do In this world of troubles My music pulls me through - John Miles (1949-2021)
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JD ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: February 07 2009 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 18446 |
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I'll write my own opinion! Music can't be expressed in words, it exists on a much deeper level than language can describe. JD (1958- )
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Lewian ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: August 09 2015 Location: Italy Status: Offline Points: 15215 |
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This!
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Argentinfonico ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October 05 2021 Location: Argentina Status: Offline Points: 368 |
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My definition: "Music, as a general and personal concept, is the eternal reflection of evolution".
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-Will I see you tonight?
-I never make plans that far ahead. Casablanca (1942) |
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Heart of the Matter ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: September 01 2020 Location: Argentina Status: Offline Points: 3585 |
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^ Thank you Phil, JD, Lewian, and my fellow countryman Mariano for sharing your thoughts, much appreciated.
I think music still can be suspected of being a particular kind of language: it shares the common matter of sound and time with the words, but its meaning seems to come from an entirely different source. |
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Heart of the Matter ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: September 01 2020 Location: Argentina Status: Offline Points: 3585 |
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Paul, this is so great, thank you man! I remember the precise moment I first heard the lines: a schoolmate played the LP for me, and looking at the cover I thought "what the h*ll is he doing with that shotgun on the shoulders?". Edited by Heart of the Matter - January 18 2022 at 04:12 |
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moshkito ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: January 04 2007 Location: Grok City Status: Offline Points: 18159 |
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Hi,
There are many forms of "poetry" in life, and music is but one of them!
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Music is not just for listening ... it is for LIVING ... you got to feel it to know what's it about! Not being told!
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Icarium ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() VIP Member Joined: March 21 2008 Location: Tigerstaden Status: Offline Points: 34086 |
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"There is one aspect that akins music to snow, and that is, when it is prescent one can not avoid its impact on its surrounding but in one moment it is gone without any trace, in a flux moment both snow and music luls you into its place and the other moment it is gone".
When the snow is melted the landscape which were transformed by its presence is gone like a distant memory. Music is the only art form that is purely in the mind, painting, arcitecture and poetry have a physical presence, music is only telmporal. I reccomend Hegels Aestetics in the power of music, though Hegel held poetry as the highest srt he also hell music in high regard as an art. "If we are in a general way permitted to regard human activity in the realm of the beautiful as a liberation of the soul, as a release from constraint and restriction, in short to consider that art does actually alleviate the most overpowering and tragic catastrophes by means of the creations it offers to our contemplation and enjoyment, it is the art of music which conducts us to the final summit of that ascent to freedom." Georg Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel, On the Arts: Selections from G.W.F. Hegel's Aesthetics or the Philosophy of Fine Art Edited by Icarium - January 18 2022 at 00:22 |
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Heart of the Matter ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: September 01 2020 Location: Argentina Status: Offline Points: 3585 |
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^ Thanks Pedro and Christoffer, there are so many sides to this thing called music that we need to help each other in order to have a chance and grasp even a bit of it.
There was in my country a band named Invisible after the fact that there is in music nothing for the eye. I also remember roughly Heidegger saying that the partitures of Beethoven string quartets sleeping in the publishing house are just like potatoes piled up in a food store basement, they only become music when actually played and heard. Edited by Heart of the Matter - January 18 2022 at 04:56 |
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BaldFriede ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: June 02 2005 Location: Germany Status: Offline Points: 10266 |
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I voted "other". My quote is: " If
music be the food of love, play on, give me
excess of it that, surfeiting, the appetite
may sicken and so die". This is spoken by Orsino in Shakespeare's "Twelfth Night"; he is lovesick and hopes that by overdosing on music his love will die.
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Heart of the Matter ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: September 01 2020 Location: Argentina Status: Offline Points: 3585 |
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^ Thanks for the poetry Friede. Music and love, music and dreams. Some people hear in dreams music that they can never recover. I read once that Keith Richards fell asleep with his tape recorder functioning, and when he played the tape later he heard his own voice humming an unknown riff that was the motivation for Satisfaction.
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Hiram ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: May 30 2009 Location: Finland Status: Offline Points: 2084 |
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Other: "Music is waste of time, but it's alright." Discordian proverb.
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Icarium ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() VIP Member Joined: March 21 2008 Location: Tigerstaden Status: Offline Points: 34086 |
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The most profound defender of the power of music as art in a philosophical side of the academia is Schopenhauer. Though Hegel is also quite important to read on the analysis of art and msuic in context to the other arts he included in the Aesthetics, arcitecture, sculpture, poetry, painting and music, futher devided these five into another category, and to make a good overview on the development of the idé on what art and aestetics are, Schopenhauer writing about music is very good to read.
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Heart of the Matter ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: September 01 2020 Location: Argentina Status: Offline Points: 3585 |
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^ Thanks Pekka and Christoffer, I guess that "wasting" time in music is a experience telling us that we are not (completely) programed yet, that we can do and feel other things.
Schopenhauer is a reading that I'm doing right now. I find very impressive not only the deep of his thinking, but also his ability to justify his points of view. |
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Hiram ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: May 30 2009 Location: Finland Status: Offline Points: 2084 |
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That was well read. I salute you, sir! Actually, I came up with that proverb myself, but since I'm a Discordian pope, it makes it official fnord
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Lewian ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: August 09 2015 Location: Italy Status: Offline Points: 15215 |
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Asmus Tietchens, from here: https://www.psychedelicbabymag.com/2021/06/asmus-tietchens-interview-absolute-music.html
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dr wu23 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: August 22 2010 Location: Indiana Status: Offline Points: 20671 |
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“Music has charms to soothe a savage breast.” That famous line was uttered by a character in William Congreve's 1697 play The Mourning Bride.
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One does nothing yet nothing is left undone.
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Heart of the Matter ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: September 01 2020 Location: Argentina Status: Offline Points: 3585 |
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^^^ Thanks Pekka, Lewian, Doug. I didn't know Congreve's line. It reminds me a bit the Shakespeare's line quoted above by Friede, both emphasize the straight and soothing impact of music in the heart troubled by love or whatever.
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