Forum Home Forum Home > Progressive Music Lounges > Prog Bands, Artists and Genres Appreciation
  New Posts New Posts RSS Feed - A to Z of Classic German Prog
  FAQ FAQ  Forum Search   Events   Register Register  Login Login

A to Z of Classic German Prog
 Post Reply Post Reply Page  <1 1516171819 29>
Author
Message Reverse Sort Order
  Topic Search Topic Search  Topic Options Topic Options
Psychedelic Paul View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: September 16 2019
Location: Nottingham, U.K
Status: Offline
Points: 39906 		Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Psychedelic Paul Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 18 2022 at 06:41
Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Peter Panka's Jane - 2003 - Shine On
not bad, but nothing special. 
It's probably another charity shop bargain bin album then. Smile

it's cute that you think you can find Jane albums in bargain bins.

Listening right now to Werner Nadolny's Jane - 2011 - Eternity. This one is pretty good. 
You're right. In reality, there's absolutely no chance of me ever finding a rare Jane album in a charity shop, or any other shop, come to think of it. By pure coincidence, I'm listening to Jane's 1982 Germania album right now, so I'll post the rating and album link later on today. Smile
Back to Top
Cristi View Drop Down
Special Collaborator
Special Collaborator
Avatar
Crossover / Prog Metal Teams

Joined: July 27 2006
Location: wonderland
Status: Offline
Points: 43510 		Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote Cristi Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 18 2022 at 05:36
Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Peter Panka's Jane - 2003 - Shine On
not bad, but nothing special. 
It's probably another charity shop bargain bin album then. Smile

it's cute that you think you can find Jane albums in bargain bins.

Listening right now to Werner Nadolny's Jane - 2011 - Eternity. This one is pretty good. 
Back to Top
Psychedelic Paul View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: September 16 2019
Location: Nottingham, U.K
Status: Offline
Points: 39906 		Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Psychedelic Paul Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 17 2022 at 06:22
Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Peter Panka's Jane - 2003 - Shine On
not bad, but nothing special. 
It's probably another charity shop bargain bin album then. Smile
Back to Top
Cristi View Drop Down
Special Collaborator
Special Collaborator
Avatar
Crossover / Prog Metal Teams

Joined: July 27 2006
Location: wonderland
Status: Offline
Points: 43510 		Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote Cristi Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 17 2022 at 05:16
Peter Panka's Jane - 2003 - Shine On
not bad, but nothing special. 
Back to Top
Psychedelic Paul View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: September 16 2019
Location: Nottingham, U.K
Status: Offline
Points: 39906 		Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Psychedelic Paul Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 17 2022 at 03:37
Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

^ remember three stars is a positive rating, it means good but not essential. 

Yes, a positive 3-star rating from me means I'd buy it from a  bargain bin in a charity shop for £1. Smile
Back to Top
Cristi View Drop Down
Special Collaborator
Special Collaborator
Avatar
Crossover / Prog Metal Teams

Joined: July 27 2006
Location: wonderland
Status: Offline
Points: 43510 		Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote Cristi Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 17 2022 at 03:32
Originally posted by Hrychu Hrychu wrote:

I see. But IMO the descriptions are pretty vague.

I agree, 2 stars should say "mediocre"
Back to Top
Hrychu View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: November 03 2013
Location: poland?
Status: Offline
Points: 5348 		Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote Hrychu Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 17 2022 at 03:30
I see. But IMO the descriptions are pretty vague.
“On the day of my creation, I fell in love with education. And overcoming all frustration, a teacher I became.”
— Ernest Vong
Back to Top
Cristi View Drop Down
Special Collaborator
Special Collaborator
Avatar
Crossover / Prog Metal Teams

Joined: July 27 2006
Location: wonderland
Status: Offline
Points: 43510 		Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote Cristi Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 17 2022 at 03:24
Originally posted by Hrychu Hrychu wrote:

But is two stars a positive rating too? "Collectors/fans only". I don't know how I should interpret that. Fans of the band should buy a 2 star album but not non-fans? So that means fans generally accept a shіtty album? Are they blinded by how much they love that band?

not accept it, but listen to it. I've listened to bad albums, because sometimes I am a completionist. Also sometimes my curiosity gets the worst of me. Thanks God for the internet, at least i know what not to buy. LOL
Back to Top
Hrychu View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: November 03 2013
Location: poland?
Status: Offline
Points: 5348 		Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Hrychu Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 17 2022 at 03:19
But is two stars a positive rating too? "Collectors/fans only". I don't know how I should interpret that. Fans of the band should buy a 2 star album but not non-fans? So that means fans generally accept a shіtty album? Are they blinded by how much they love that band?
“On the day of my creation, I fell in love with education. And overcoming all frustration, a teacher I became.”
— Ernest Vong
Back to Top
Cristi View Drop Down
Special Collaborator
Special Collaborator
Avatar
Crossover / Prog Metal Teams

Joined: July 27 2006
Location: wonderland
Status: Offline
Points: 43510 		Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote Cristi Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 17 2022 at 03:02
^ remember three stars is a positive rating, it means good but not essential. 
Back to Top
Psychedelic Paul View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: September 16 2019
Location: Nottingham, U.K
Status: Offline
Points: 39906 		Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Psychedelic Paul Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 17 2022 at 02:56
5 stars 1972: Jane - Together - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLJfwklRIOOp2UgmHlYyA2U5DRmlZzINhw
5 stars 1977: Jane - Between Heaven and Hell - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4mJs-d4TCA
4 stars 1978: Jane - Age of Madness - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JpzhlUmkQ34
3 stars 1980: Jane - Jane (Mask) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T0bYC79t_uw
 
 
New Man in Town
 
 
 
 
 
 
Back to Top
Cristi View Drop Down
Special Collaborator
Special Collaborator
Avatar
Crossover / Prog Metal Teams

Joined: July 27 2006
Location: wonderland
Status: Offline
Points: 43510 		Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote Cristi Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 17 2022 at 02:33
Werner Nadolny's Jane - 2014 - Journey I (Best Of Jane '70-'80)
This album is a compilation of classic jane re-worked, re-recorded. Kinda unnecessary, but well executed and performed. 
Back to Top
Psychedelic Paul View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: September 16 2019
Location: Nottingham, U.K
Status: Offline
Points: 39906 		Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Psychedelic Paul Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 17 2022 at 02:27
Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

I tried listening to 80s Jane today, it's still unlistenable to em, very poor songwriting IMO, still think people should stay away from those three albums. 

I'm listening now to their 2002 album called Genuine. Pretty decent. I'm gonna listen some more post 2000s Jane. There are various line-ups, I listened long ago, let's see what I remember. 

There is also a poorly rated album in 1996, I'm gonna check it out and remember why (I think I listened long ago). The rating is probably deserved.
I'm listening to Jane's self-titled 1980 album right now and I can hear a definite drop in quality from their classic 1970's album. From what you've said, I have a feeling it's not going to get any better throughout the rest of the 1980's, but at least I still have Jane's 21st century albums to look forward to. Smile
Back to Top
Cristi View Drop Down
Special Collaborator
Special Collaborator
Avatar
Crossover / Prog Metal Teams

Joined: July 27 2006
Location: wonderland
Status: Offline
Points: 43510 		Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote Cristi Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 17 2022 at 01:58
Peter Panka's Jane - 1996 - Resurrection
poor, almost amateurish, avoid! Poor rating deserved. 
Back to Top
Cristi View Drop Down
Special Collaborator
Special Collaborator
Avatar
Crossover / Prog Metal Teams

Joined: July 27 2006
Location: wonderland
Status: Offline
Points: 43510 		Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote Cristi Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 17 2022 at 01:35
I tried listening to 80s Jane today, it's still unlistenable to me, very poor songwriting IMO, still think people should stay away from those three albums. 

I'm listening now to their 2002 album called Genuine. Pretty decent. I'm gonna listen some more post 2000s Jane. There are various line-ups, I listened long ago, let's see what I remember. 

There is also a poorly rated album in 1996, I'm gonna check it out and remember why (I think I listened long ago). The rating is probably deserved.


Edited by Cristi - January 17 2022 at 02:29
Back to Top
Cristi View Drop Down
Special Collaborator
Special Collaborator
Avatar
Crossover / Prog Metal Teams

Joined: July 27 2006
Location: wonderland
Status: Offline
Points: 43510 		Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote Cristi Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 16 2022 at 11:48
Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:


How am I ignoring you? For a moment there, I thought we might actually agree on something, but somehow, I get the impression we're never going to agree on anything, no matter what I say. Tongue

Just speaking out of what you've shown. I guess it's better to be ignored than mocked or insulted. 

Good luck with the rest of Jane's discography then. I only gave you a fair warning. 
Back to Top
Psychedelic Paul View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: September 16 2019
Location: Nottingham, U.K
Status: Offline
Points: 39906 		Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Psychedelic Paul Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 16 2022 at 11:35
Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

^ 70s Jane is great, but beyond that, it all went downhill. Just a fair warning. Smile

Oh dear. It sounds like Jane went  downhill fast in the 80's in the same way as many other classic prog bands I could mention, such as Genesis, Golden Earring & King Crimson, to name just three. Anyway, thanks for the warning. Smile

they did 2 albums in the 80s that are hard rock and not even that interesting IMO, one pop album in 1986, oh dear... 
Maybe their post 2000s work might get you interested, at least they are decent there. 
Jane had a run of nine great albums in a row in the 1970's, so it may have been too much too ask for them to keep up to that same high standard throughout the 1980's. Smile

Anyway, I'm glad I've found a band we both like. Thumbs Up

It's not about keeping a high standard, I wasn't thinking about that at all, just that in my opinion (obviously), the songwriting dropped in quality after the 70s.
I will always enjoy the 8 studio albums of the 70s, but that's all for me. I don't know why I wrote here, you're gonna ignore me anyway. Ouch
How am I ignoring you? For a moment there, I thought we might actually agree on something, but somehow, I get the impression we're never going to agree on anything, no matter what I say. Tongue
Back to Top
Cristi View Drop Down
Special Collaborator
Special Collaborator
Avatar
Crossover / Prog Metal Teams

Joined: July 27 2006
Location: wonderland
Status: Offline
Points: 43510 		Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote Cristi Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 16 2022 at 11:11
Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

^ 70s Jane is great, but beyond that, it all went downhill. Just a fair warning. Smile

Oh dear. It sounds like Jane went  downhill fast in the 80's in the same way as many other classic prog bands I could mention, such as Genesis, Golden Earring & King Crimson, to name just three. Anyway, thanks for the warning. Smile

they did 2 albums in the 80s that are hard rock and not even that interesting IMO, one pop album in 1986, oh dear... 
Maybe their post 2000s work might get you interested, at least they are decent there. 
Jane had a run of nine great albums in a row in the 1970's, so it may have been too much too ask for them to keep up to that same high standard throughout the 1980's. Smile

Anyway, I'm glad I've found a band we both like. Thumbs Up

It's not about keeping a high standard, I wasn't thinking about that at all, just that in my opinion (obviously), the songwriting dropped in quality after the 70s.
I will always enjoy the 8 studio albums of the 70s, but that's all for me. I don't know why I wrote here, you're gonna ignore me anyway. Ouch
Back to Top
Psychedelic Paul View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: September 16 2019
Location: Nottingham, U.K
Status: Offline
Points: 39906 		Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Psychedelic Paul Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 16 2022 at 10:59
Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

^ 70s Jane is great, but beyond that, it all went downhill. Just a fair warning. Smile

Oh dear. It sounds like Jane went  downhill fast in the 80's in the same way as many other classic prog bands I could mention, such as Genesis, Golden Earring & King Crimson, to name just three. Anyway, thanks for the warning. Smile

they did 2 albums in the 80s that are hard rock and not even that interesting IMO, one pop album in 1986, oh dear... 
Maybe their post 2000s work might get you interested, at least they are decent there. 
Jane had a run of nine great albums in a row in the 1970's, so it may have been too much too ask for them to keep up to that same high standard throughout the 1980's. Smile

Anyway, I'm glad I've found a band we both like. Thumbs Up
Back to Top
Cristi View Drop Down
Special Collaborator
Special Collaborator
Avatar
Crossover / Prog Metal Teams

Joined: July 27 2006
Location: wonderland
Status: Offline
Points: 43510 		Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote Cristi Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 16 2022 at 10:27
Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

^ 70s Jane is great, but beyond that, it all went downhill. Just a fair warning. Smile

Oh dear. It sounds like Jane went  downhill fast in the 80's in the same way as many other classic prog bands I could mention, such as Genesis, Golden Earring & King Crimson, to name just three. Anyway, thanks for the warning. Smile

they did 2 albums in the 80s that are hard rock and not even that interesting IMO, one pop album in 1986, oh dear... 
Maybe their post 2000s work might get you interested, at least they are decent there. 
Back to Top
 Post Reply Post Reply Page  <1 1516171819 29>

Forum Jump Forum Permissions View Drop Down



This page was generated in 0.273 seconds.
Donate monthly and keep PA fast-loading and ad-free forever.