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^ 70s Jane is great, but beyond that, it all went downhill. Just a fair warning. Smile
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Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

^ 70s Jane is great, but beyond that, it all went downhill. Just a fair warning. Smile

Oh dear. It sounds like Jane went  downhill fast in the 80's in the same way as many other classic prog bands I could mention, such as Genesis, Golden Earring & King Crimson, to name just three. Anyway, thanks for the warning. Smile


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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

^ 70s Jane is great, but beyond that, it all went downhill. Just a fair warning. Smile

Oh dear. It sounds like Jane went  downhill fast in the 80's in the same way as many other classic prog bands I could mention, such as Genesis, Golden Earring & King Crimson, to name just three. Anyway, thanks for the warning. Smile

they did 2 albums in the 80s that are hard rock and not even that interesting IMO, one pop album in 1986, oh dear... 
Maybe their post 2000s work might get you interested, at least they are decent there. 
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Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

^ 70s Jane is great, but beyond that, it all went downhill. Just a fair warning. Smile

Oh dear. It sounds like Jane went  downhill fast in the 80's in the same way as many other classic prog bands I could mention, such as Genesis, Golden Earring & King Crimson, to name just three. Anyway, thanks for the warning. Smile

they did 2 albums in the 80s that are hard rock and not even that interesting IMO, one pop album in 1986, oh dear... 
Maybe their post 2000s work might get you interested, at least they are decent there. 
Jane had a run of nine great albums in a row in the 1970's, so it may have been too much too ask for them to keep up to that same high standard throughout the 1980's. Smile

Anyway, I'm glad I've found a band we both like. Thumbs Up
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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

^ 70s Jane is great, but beyond that, it all went downhill. Just a fair warning. Smile

Oh dear. It sounds like Jane went  downhill fast in the 80's in the same way as many other classic prog bands I could mention, such as Genesis, Golden Earring & King Crimson, to name just three. Anyway, thanks for the warning. Smile

they did 2 albums in the 80s that are hard rock and not even that interesting IMO, one pop album in 1986, oh dear... 
Maybe their post 2000s work might get you interested, at least they are decent there. 
Jane had a run of nine great albums in a row in the 1970's, so it may have been too much too ask for them to keep up to that same high standard throughout the 1980's. Smile

Anyway, I'm glad I've found a band we both like. Thumbs Up

It's not about keeping a high standard, I wasn't thinking about that at all, just that in my opinion (obviously), the songwriting dropped in quality after the 70s.
I will always enjoy the 8 studio albums of the 70s, but that's all for me. I don't know why I wrote here, you're gonna ignore me anyway. Ouch
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Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

^ 70s Jane is great, but beyond that, it all went downhill. Just a fair warning. Smile

Oh dear. It sounds like Jane went  downhill fast in the 80's in the same way as many other classic prog bands I could mention, such as Genesis, Golden Earring & King Crimson, to name just three. Anyway, thanks for the warning. Smile

they did 2 albums in the 80s that are hard rock and not even that interesting IMO, one pop album in 1986, oh dear... 
Maybe their post 2000s work might get you interested, at least they are decent there. 
Jane had a run of nine great albums in a row in the 1970's, so it may have been too much too ask for them to keep up to that same high standard throughout the 1980's. Smile

Anyway, I'm glad I've found a band we both like. Thumbs Up

It's not about keeping a high standard, I wasn't thinking about that at all, just that in my opinion (obviously), the songwriting dropped in quality after the 70s.
I will always enjoy the 8 studio albums of the 70s, but that's all for me. I don't know why I wrote here, you're gonna ignore me anyway. Ouch
How am I ignoring you? For a moment there, I thought we might actually agree on something, but somehow, I get the impression we're never going to agree on anything, no matter what I say. Tongue
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How am I ignoring you? For a moment there, I thought we might actually agree on something, but somehow, I get the impression we're never going to agree on anything, no matter what I say. Tongue

Just speaking out of what you've shown. I guess it's better to be ignored than mocked or insulted. 

Good luck with the rest of Jane's discography then. I only gave you a fair warning. 
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I tried listening to 80s Jane today, it's still unlistenable to me, very poor songwriting IMO, still think people should stay away from those three albums. 

I'm listening now to their 2002 album called Genuine. Pretty decent. I'm gonna listen some more post 2000s Jane. There are various line-ups, I listened long ago, let's see what I remember. 

There is also a poorly rated album in 1996, I'm gonna check it out and remember why (I think I listened long ago). The rating is probably deserved.


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Peter Panka's Jane - 1996 - Resurrection
poor, almost amateurish, avoid! Poor rating deserved. 
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Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

I tried listening to 80s Jane today, it's still unlistenable to em, very poor songwriting IMO, still think people should stay away from those three albums. 

I'm listening now to their 2002 album called Genuine. Pretty decent. I'm gonna listen some more post 2000s Jane. There are various line-ups, I listened long ago, let's see what I remember. 

There is also a poorly rated album in 1996, I'm gonna check it out and remember why (I think I listened long ago). The rating is probably deserved.
I'm listening to Jane's self-titled 1980 album right now and I can hear a definite drop in quality from their classic 1970's album. From what you've said, I have a feeling it's not going to get any better throughout the rest of the 1980's, but at least I still have Jane's 21st century albums to look forward to. Smile
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Werner Nadolny's Jane - 2014 - Journey I (Best Of Jane '70-'80)
This album is a compilation of classic jane re-worked, re-recorded. Kinda unnecessary, but well executed and performed. 
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^ remember three stars is a positive rating, it means good but not essential. 
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But is two stars a positive rating too? "Collectors/fans only". I don't know how I should interpret that. Fans of the band should buy a 2 star album but not non-fans? So that means fans generally accept a shіtty album? Are they blinded by how much they love that band?
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Originally posted by Hrychu Hrychu wrote:

But is two stars a positive rating too? "Collectors/fans only". I don't know how I should interpret that. Fans of the band should buy a 2 star album but not non-fans? So that means fans generally accept a shіtty album? Are they blinded by how much they love that band?

not accept it, but listen to it. I've listened to bad albums, because sometimes I am a completionist. Also sometimes my curiosity gets the worst of me. Thanks God for the internet, at least i know what not to buy. LOL
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I see. But IMO the descriptions are pretty vague.
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I see. But IMO the descriptions are pretty vague.

I agree, 2 stars should say "mediocre"
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Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

^ remember three stars is a positive rating, it means good but not essential. 

Yes, a positive 3-star rating from me means I'd buy it from a  bargain bin in a charity shop for £1. Smile
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Peter Panka's Jane - 2003 - Shine On
not bad, but nothing special. 
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Peter Panka's Jane - 2003 - Shine On
not bad, but nothing special. 
It's probably another charity shop bargain bin album then. Smile
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