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    Posted: December 14 2021 at 00:20
Every year brings a swag of great releases but I find it hard to go past 1971 as the year when the most outstanding albums were released.

In prog we welcomed Meddle, Aqualung, Tarkus, Led Zeppelin IV, Every Good Boy Deserves Favour, and Yes managed to release two classics that year, The Yes Album and Fragile.

Moving away from prog (if only slightly in some cases) we got Whos Next, Surfs Up, Imagine, If I Could only Remember My Name by David Crosby, Teaser and the Firecat, What's Going On, LA Woman, Masters of Reality and the list goes on and on.

Has there been a better single year for the release of outstanding albums?


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I can't answer your question....but I DO like your forum nameCoolLOL
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote David_D Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 16 2021 at 15:33

It's too late today, but tomorrow I'll have a look at the top 160 all-time Prog albums list that I've made in 2019 on basis of all the ratings on RYM and PA, and I can give an answer on basis of that. Smile

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Originally posted by essexboyinwales essexboyinwales wrote:

I can't answer your question....but I DO like your forum nameCoolLOL

Me, too! (Do you have a wife/sister named Barbara?)


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Hard to beat '71,  except maybe '73 .


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote BrufordFreak Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 16 2021 at 15:56
I was looking at my year-by-year lists and I don't think I can participate! So many great years! 1972. 1974. 1977. 1982. 2009. 2013. Couldn't really give one year the lone moniker of "Best" or even "Favorite"!
Buy I can add this reinforcement: your list doesn't even include one-tenth of the albums on my list for that year:
     1971     
1. GIL SCOTT-HERON Pieces of a Man
2. AMERICA America
3. MARVIN GAYE What's Going On?
4. EGG The Polite Force
5. PAUL & LINDA McCARTNEY Ram
6. YES Fragile
7. FOCUS Moving Waves
8. GENESIS Nursery Cryme
9. CARAVAN In the Land of Pink and Grey
10. SUPERSISTER To the Highest Bidder

11. THE ORIGINAL CAST Godspell
12. CAROLE KING Tapestry
13. THE ORIGINAL CAST Jesus Christ Superstar
14. NEKTAR Journey to the Centre of the Eye
15. SPIROGYRA St. Radigunds
16. THE CARPENTERS Carpenters 
17. LED ZEPPELIN "IV" or "Runes"
18. GENTLE GIANT Acquiring the Taste
19. FOTHERINGAY Fotheringay
20. HERBIE HANCOCK Mwandishi

21. NUCLEUS We'll Talk About It Later
22. ALICE COLTRANE Universal Consciousness
23. TERJE RYPDAL Terje Rypdal
24. ASH RA TEMPEL Ash Ra Tempel
25. THE WOODS BAND The Woods Band
26. VAN DER GRAAF GENERATOR Pawn Hearts
27. BRÖSELMASCHINE Bröselmaschine
28. ROY HARPER Stormcock
29. MELLOW CANDLE Swaddling Songs
30. OSIBISA Osibisa

Honorable Mentions:
SANTANA III
FUCHSIA Fuchsia
COMUS First Utterance
JAN DUKES DE GREY Mice and Rats in the Loft
YES The Yes Album
URIAH HEEP Look At Yourself
WIGWAM Fairyport
TRAFFIC The Low Spark of High Heeled Boys 
BRAINTICKET Cottonwoodhill
MAHAVISHNU ORCHESTRA The Inner Mounting Flame
ALICE COLTRANE Journey in Satchidinanda
GONG Camembert Electrique
JETHRO TULL Aqualung
THE WHO Who's Next
EMERSON, LAKE & PALMER Tarkus

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Originally posted by BrufordFreak BrufordFreak wrote:

I can add this reinforcement: your list doesn't even include one-tenth of the albums on my list for that year:
     1971     
1. GIL SCOTT-HERON Pieces of a Man
2. AMERICA America
3. MARVIN GAYE What's Going On?
4. EGG The Polite Force
5. PAUL & LINDA McCARTNEY Ram
6. YES Fragile
7. FOCUS Moving Waves
8. GENESIS Nursery Cryme
9. CARAVAN In the Land of Pink and Grey
10. SUPERSISTER To the Highest Bidder

11. THE ORIGINAL CAST Godspell
12. CAROLE KING Tapestry
13. THE ORIGINAL CAST Jesus Christ Superstar
14. NEKTAR Journey to the Centre of the Eye
15. SPIROGYRA St. Radigunds
16. THE CARPENTERS Carpenters 
17. LED ZEPPELIN "IV" or "Runes"
18. GENTLE GIANT Acquiring the Taste
19. FOTHERINGAY Fotheringay
20. HERBIE HANCOCK Mwandishi

21. NUCLEUS We'll Talk About It Later
22. ALICE COLTRANE Universal Consciousness
23. TERJE RYPDAL Terje Rypdal
24. ASH RA TEMPEL Ash Ra Tempel
25. THE WOODS BAND The Woods Band
26. VAN DER GRAAF GENERATOR Pawn Hearts
27. BRÖSELMASCHINE Bröselmaschine
28. ROY HARPER Stormcock
29. MELLOW CANDLE Swaddling Songs
30. OSIBISA Osibisa

Honorable Mentions:
SANTANA III
FUCHSIA Fuchsia
COMUS First Utterance
JAN DUKES DE GREY Mice and Rats in the Loft
YES The Yes Album
URIAH HEEP Look At Yourself
WIGWAM Fairyport
TRAFFIC The Low Spark of High Heeled Boys 
BRAINTICKET Cottonwoodhill
MAHAVISHNU ORCHESTRA The Inner Mounting Flame
ALICE COLTRANE Journey in Satchidinanda
GONG Camembert Electrique
JETHRO TULL Aqualung
THE WHO Who's Next
EMERSON, LAKE & PALMER Tarkus


Thanks for covering for my overall slackness BrufordFreak. 

There are indeed many more great albums I could have and should have mentioned, like "Tapestry", "Ram", "Low Spark of High Heeled Boys", the self titled debut from America and the list goes on and on.

Oops, there I go again.


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Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:


It's too late today, but tomorrow I'll have a look at the top 160 all-time Prog albums list that I've made in 2019 on basis of all the ratings on RYM and PA, and I can give an answer on basis of that. Smile

So, here it comes, and I better add that the list, I've done, only includes one album per band, 
and the number of albums for each year being:

1970  -  9 
1971  -  10 
1972  -  17 
1973  -  12 
1974  -  16 
1975  -  10

If to compare the 70's with other decades, I can tell that the number of albums which qualified to this list, for each decade are: 
  8 albums from the 60’s, 94 from the 70’s, 12 from the 80’s, 14 from the 90’s,
         30 from the 0’s and 6 from the 10’s

This can be considered as a kind of objective answer.

The first part of this list, top 100, can be seen in this thread
http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=127673

and the second part, top 100-160, can be seen in this thread
http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=127706



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That's all good and fine, but I wasn't only considering prog albums and there is certainly no requierment to include only one album per artist.

After all, as I pointed out in my OP, Yes released two classic albums that year.
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Originally posted by Hugh Manatee Hugh Manatee wrote:

That's all good and fine, but I wasn't only considering prog albums and there is certainly no requierment to include only one album per artist.

After all, as I pointed out in my OP, Yes released two classic albums that year.

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Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

Hard to beat '71,  except maybe '73 .


1973 was my favourite year for prog too. After all, that was the year that Tubular Bells chimed for the first time. Smile
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But Hugh, if you're especially interested in 1971, there has just been a thread about that year - only considering Prog, though

http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=127814


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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

Hard to beat '71,  except maybe '73 .


1973 was my favourite year for prog too. After all, that was the year that Tubular Bells chimed for the first time. Smile


Ok, once again the reason I posted this in the General Music Discussions forum is because I'm not only considering prog.

I love Tubular Bells too but I don't think one allbum makes a whole year, although I'm certain there was probably a lot of very good albums released that year also, just as there were every other year.

After all "Dark Side of the Moon" was also released in 1973. That's two heavyweight releases right there.

For some reason I'm not even sure of myself 1971 rang a bell with me (not a tubular one though) as an excellent year for music releases. 

It's probably got something to do with when I really started paying attention to the wonderful wide world of music.
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Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:


But Hugh, if you're especially interested in 1971, there has just been a thread about that year - only considering Prog, though

http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=127814

Thanks David. That reminds me that "Space Ritual" was also released in 1971.

Another album that had an influence on the direction my musical taste took.
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As far as I can see, the best answer on Hugh's question (or Rock's best year?) can be got by looking at RYM's (let say) 200 Rock chart, and seeing how many albums on it are for each year. If looking at top 300, would be of course even more telling, and so on.




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But talking about not-Prog albums, or at least about what I've chosen not to consider Prog, there are surely some from 1971 which I'm fond/very fond of, and that is:

                Black Sabbath (UK)  -  Master Of Reality  (1971)
                David Bowie  (UK)  -  Hunky Dory  (1971)
                Miles Davis  (US)  -  Live/Evil  (1971)

                Deep Purple  (UK)  -  Fireball   (1971)

                Groundhogs  (UK)  -  Split  (1971) 

                Led Zeppelin  (UK)  -  (IV)  (1971)

                Osibisa  (Africa)  -  Voyaya  (1971)

              Rolling Stones  (UK)  -  Sticky Fingers  (1971)



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As much as you might try to avoid a post becoming bogged in prog by placing it in General Music, Gary, it will likely never work on these fora. Too many people are too obsessed with just prog, and don’t notice, or perhaps ignore, the invitation to include ALL music.

But, I have to say, based on my own listening, while I couldn’t definitively give you one year, I suspect it would be far more recent that anything in the ‘70s. The simple reason being that, like the cosmic universe, the music universe keeps expanding over time. There are so many different sounds and styles now, in addition to those that existed already in the ‘70s.

As much as I own and love some absolutely amazing releases from the ‘60s, ‘70s, ‘80s and ‘90s, I feel like my favourite year (if just one exists) would be on this side of the year 2000 (and probably post 2010). I might have more favourite individual albums from years much further in the past, but as you said - one album does not make a year. Even several albums, for me, wouldn’t make it a year.

Some decades for me are full of wonderful music, of which very little is prog. I love so much music, for example, from the ‘80s and ‘90s, but prog is virtually non-existent within those years, in my collection. The early ‘90s was incredible for anyone who enjoyed that brief period when alternative rock consigned hair metal to history - especially the seeming explosion of bands from the Pacific Northwest (although most were not new, so much as newly exploited by the media and music industry).

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It was just a thought I trurned into a topic.

Just a thought.

As they say "Writing about music is like dancing about archetecture." or something.


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