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Posted: November 23 2021 at 14:30

Demonizing the victims? So if someone has been convicted of a crime it is okay too shoot them?

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Posted: November 23 2021 at 15:15

timothy leary wrote:

Demonizing the victims? So if someone has been convicted of a crime it is okay too shoot them?

Of course not. However; when the video's plainly shows all three criminals chasing Rittenhouse. Rittenhouse ran away from them. Threatening Rittenhouse with words like (Rosenbaum) "When I catch you alone, I will kill you!" Then chasing Rittenhouse down, catching him, and grabbing for Rittenhouse's rifle...Or beating Rittenhouse with a skateboard on the head, or pointing a loaded Glock automatic at Rittenhouse's head are criminal activities. Deadly criminal activities.

So you support pedophile's anal raping 9 year-old boys? Do you support men strangling women? That's what the people you call "victims" did. The last thing the three criminals did was attempt to murder Rittenhouse. They died like they lived. The pedophile died reaching for a minor.

Maybe you should watch the videos before you spout opinions, Timothy Leary?

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Posted: November 23 2021 at 19:37

After reviewing some videos, regardless of the assailants’ criminal records it should have been an open and shut case. It was clearly self-defense…

Rosenbaum should not have been shot and killed. He shouldn’t have been there; he should have been behind bars. However, I will drink to one less pedophile in the world.

Kyle Rittenhouse was lucky; the young lad could have been hospitalized or killed. Are his assailants going to be charged?

It’s hard to tell from the video if Kyle meant to shoot Grosskretz in the arm. This would have been a mistake, in a situation like that you don’t aim to injure. For survival, the threat needs to be neutralized; the predator needs to be made nonfunctional.

All in all things worked out… Next time i’m out drinking I may have to order a Rittenhouse!

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Posted: November 23 2021 at 21:52

^ Ah, our right-wing sociopaths have chimed in. Interesting that supporters of treason would also support a 17 year-old idiot with a rifle. Makes sense, I suppose.

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Posted: November 24 2021 at 05:40

Well let's get real on at least one FACT. There is no way that Kyle Rittenhouse knew or had any reason to believe that either of the people he killed had any criminal background. These are facts AFTER the fact.

To be clear...Pedophiles are the 5hit that 5hit wipes off its shoe. But that is a justification and not in any way a reason for what Kyle Rittenhouse did.

Those points aside, our right wing friends above just don't seem to be able to push the timeline back far enough to see that the real instigator in all this was Kyle Rittenhouse himself.

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Posted: November 24 2021 at 05:52

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^ Ah, our right-wing sociopaths have chimed in. Interesting that supporters of treason would also support a 17 year-old idiot with a rifle. Makes sense, I suppose.

What evidence do you have that we're right-wing ( I've said multiple times on this thread that I have not voted republican ever.) I support a living wage, student loan forgiveness, and Single Payer Medical Care for All. The only Right wing things I support are free speech and right to defend yourself if your life has been threatened. In other words, the First and Second admendments.

What evidence do you have that Cosmic or myself are sociopaths? I don't think Atavachon knows what a sociopath is. Rosenbaum ( the pedophile) was a sociopath. In fact he was let out of a mental institution the morning of his death. Sociopaths usually have an arrest record. I've never committed a crime. Never been arrested. I've never missed a day at work. I've never been late to work.

What evidence do you have that anybody on this thread is a supporter of treason? You know that treason is punishable by death? I love Americans so much that I dedicated my life to helping Americans in need. That's the reason I'm a nurse. That's the reason I volunteer my time (as a nurse) once a month. Is that what a sociopath does?

When people cannot debate an argument, they turn to personal insults. Rise above the insults Atavachon and make a logical argument. If you think Rittenhouse was guilty, make your argument. If you think anybody on this thread is a sociopath...please supply evidence. Tell us the definition of a sociopath and make your argument that Cosmic or myself fit the definition. Enlighten us Atavachon! Wink

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Posted: November 24 2021 at 06:20

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To be clear...Pedophiles are the 5hit that 5hit wipes off its shoe. But that is a justification and not in any way a reason for what Kyle Rittenhouse did.

Those points aside, our right wing friends above just don't seem to be able to push the timeline back far enough to see that the real instigator in all this was Kyle Rittenhouse himself.

Yes it's true that Rittenhouse had no reason to believe that the folks he shot had criminal backgrounds. At one point, Rittenhouse was attacked by five people in 10 seconds. I'm sure Rittenhouse did not contemplate ( in Matrix Slow Motion) the criminal records of his attackers. Rittenhouse did not kill Rosenbaum because Rosenbaum had anally raped five nine-year-old boys. Rittenhouse shot Rosenbaum because-

1. Rosenbaum said to Rittenhouse, "If I catch you alone, I will kill you."

2. Rosenbaum attacked Rittenhouse.

3. Joshua Ziminski (Rosenbaum's friend) who accompanied Rosenbaum fired a gunshot as Rosenbaum chased Rittenhouse.

4. Rosenbaum caught Rittenhouse. (The prosecution asked Joshua Ziminski... What made you think that Rosenbaum was thinking of killing Rittenhouse?) Joshua Ziminski replied, "Because Rosenbaum said ""F#ck You!" and he reached for Rittenhouses rifle."

5. Even Rosenbaum's friend testified that Rosenbaum planned on murdering Rittenhouse.

It's difficult to know what someone is thinking. That said, Rosenbaum had attempted suicide days before. Rosenbaum was let out of a mental institution the same day he died. Rosenbaum attempted to see his girlfriend earlier that day. She refused to see him. Minutes before Rosenbaum attacked Rittenhouse...Rosenbaum was screaming the N-word at armed with rifles- Black Live's Matter protesters. Rosenbaum was repeatedly screaming, " Shoot me n-word, shoot me n-word!"

How do I know this to be true? I've seen the videos of a very aggressive Rosenbaum screaming the above. You can see it too. Look it up. I don't don't want to post such evil stuff.

The other two men who Rittenhouse shot, attempted to murder Rittenhouse. One with a illegal Glock, fully loaded with bullet chambered from three feet away. The Glock pointed at Rittenhouse's head. The other man was beating Rittenhouse's head with a skateboard. These two guys attacked Rittenhouse within three seconds of each other. It was mob attack.

It's true Rittenhouse did not know the criminal records of the men who attempted to murder him. However; Rittenhouse knew that the men were attempting to murder him. Did you know attempted murder is a crime? If Rittenhouse had not defended himself...Rittenhouse would be dead. If you cannot defend your life from a man about to shoot you in the head, at close range with a loaded gun....Then when?

JD claimed- "Those points aside, our right wing friends above just don't seem to be able to push the timeline back far enough to see that the real instigator in all this was Kyle Rittenhouse himself.

What is your evidence, JD? Enlighten us, JD. Push the timeline back and provide us with evidence that Kyle Rittenhouse was the real instigator. You should have offered your services to the prosecution, because the prosecution failed to prove that Rittenhouse instigated or provoked the attacks.

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Posted: November 24 2021 at 07:28

omphaloskepsis wrote:

JD wrote:

To be clear...Pedophiles are the 5hit that 5hit wipes off its shoe. But that is a justification and not in any way a reason for what Kyle Rittenhouse did.

Those points aside, our right wing friends above just don't seem to be able to push the timeline back far enough to see that the real instigator in all this was Kyle Rittenhouse himself.

1. Rosenbaum said to Rittenhouse, "If I catch you alone, I will kill you."

2. Rosenbaum attacked Rittenhouse.

3. Joshua Ziminski (Rosenbaum's friend) who accompanied Rosenbaum fired a gunshot as Rosenbaum chased Rittenhouse.

5. Even Rosenbaum's friend testified that Rosenbaum planned on murdering Rittenhouse.

How do I know this to be true? I've seen the videos of a very aggressive Rosenbaum screaming the above. You can see it too. Look it up. I don't don't want to post such evil stuff.

[EDIT]

So, what this tells me is that Rosenbaum suffered from mental illness. Yea, you're right, that's a good enough reason to kill him. What was I thinking?

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Posted: November 24 2021 at 07:34

Speaking of pedophiles, Matt Gaetz wants baby face Kyle to work for him as an intern.

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Posted: November 24 2021 at 07:47

He hopes Kyle will introduce him to some of his 'friends'.

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Posted: November 24 2021 at 08:19

I'm thinking since Kyle is into shooting pedophiles, maybe he will shoot Gaetz and save the taxpayers some money in the form of investigative work, trial costs and jail time.

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Posted: November 24 2021 at 08:54

Under the letter of the law, Rittenhouse was deemed to have protected himself. But what was he doing there in the first place? He was not a trained peace officer who knew how to engage rioters by himself. And why was he by himself at the time of the shooting? Would a trained police officer put himself in that position? He should not have been there is the bottom line, regardless of if his motives we're right or wrong.

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Posted: November 24 2021 at 09:09

^ Yeah, not guilty of murder by letter of the law, but definitely guilty of being an extreme dumbass.

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Posted: November 24 2021 at 09:14

omphaloskepsis wrote:

timothy leary wrote:

Demonizing the victims? So if someone has been convicted of a crime it is okay too shoot them?

Maybe you should watch the videos before you spout opinions, Timothy Leary?

I love your long posts. I am going to put you on my buddy list. I do not need a video to see which way the wind blows. Minor crosses state line to attend a Blm gathering in order to make black folks behave. That is my opinion and I am sticking to it.

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Posted: November 24 2021 at 09:16

Anyway, for those into personality drinks, how about a Matt Gaetz, its a double shot of extra virgin olive oil. It looks gross and it tastes gross too.

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Posted: November 24 2021 at 09:21

Easy Money wrote:

Anyway, for those into personality drinks, how about a Matt Gaetz, its a double shot of extra virgin olive oil. It looks gross and it tastes gross too.

Reminds me of the Rick Santorum days and his acquired nickname.

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Posted: November 24 2021 at 09:27

Oh god please don't...I just ate. Sick

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Posted: November 24 2021 at 09:36

As to the people "attacking" Rittenhouse: When you see a guy with a rifle running around in the streets there are in my opinion only two things you can do: Either hide or try to take the gun away from him. I would probably go for the "hide" option, but our daughters Alice and Dorothy would definitely disarm him; they have black belts in judo and taekwondo.

Edited by BaldFriede - November 24 2021 at 09:45

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Posted: November 24 2021 at 09:50

Atavachron wrote:

^ Ah, our right-wing sociopaths have chimed in. Interesting that supporters of treason would also support a 17 year-old idiot with a rifle. Makes sense, I suppose.

LOL… Our left-wing pedophile sounded off. Do you have any clue as to what you’re spouting? It’s obvious that you have a fading and selective memory, but you must recall some of my answers as to my stance on different matters.

On majority of issues, I lean left, far left even. However, I do recognize that there are sociopaths and all sorts of crazies on both sides of the aisle.

I detest violence… There are 2 types of violence, antisocial and asocial. In antisocial aggression there is a way out and should be taken. Usually, there’s 2 male gorillas beating their chests and throwing sh*t at each other to establish dominance. It doesn’t have to escalate and go asocial if one of them backs down.

There is a fine line between the two, an example of antisocial behavior on the edge would be - say you accidentally bumped into someone in a bar and apologized. However, the drunken fool postured in front of his friends and wanted to start a fight. You apologize again but he throws his drink in your face. Your friends are watching, what do you do? Is there still a chance you can talk your way out of it?

Yes, this would be Close to the Edge, Wink but it doesn’t necessarily have to turn asocial. You can place a ten or twenty on the bar, tell the bartender that because of you that guy spilled his drink and would like to buy him another one. Then start backing away slowly toward an exit, be vigilant and get the hell out of there. It’s worth 20 bucks not to engage, not to take a chance of ending up in jail, hospital, or morgue.

In an asocial situation there is now way out, no amount of talking and there is nothing that can be done to avert the violence about to take place. If someone has a knife to your throat or a gun to your head this is an asocial situation and there is only one way out. There is only one person walking away on their own accord, I hope you have to necessary tools in your tool bag to be you.

There are a lot of predators in the world, and I hope no one here ever encounters one.

Examine the video closely and then decide for yourself if what Kyle faced was antisocial or asocial? Try not to be swayed by some of the brainless comments on some of the videos.

Violence is hardly ever the answer, but when it is the answer, it’s the only answer.

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Posted: November 24 2021 at 10:13

CosmicVibration wrote:

After reviewing some videos, regardless of the assailants’ criminal records it should have been an open and shut case. It was clearly self-defense…

Rosenbaum should not have been shot and killed. He shouldn’t have been there; he should have been behind bars. However, I will drink to one less pedophile in the world.

Kyle Rittenhouse was lucky; the young lad could have been hospitalized or killed. Are his assailants going to be charged?

All in all things worked out… Next time i’m out drinking I may have to order a Rittenhouse!

This does not look like you hate violence. Putting you on the buddy list also....fist bump