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David_D
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After looking at Poland, I think it would be very appropriate with the rest of the Eastern Europe - if that has had your interest, as well. I'd like to include Greece here because otherwise, I doubt it would be listed. I'm sure, this will be quite exiting, too, and beginning with my list, still one album per band and unranked: Fermáta (Slovakia) - Pieseň z Hôľ (1977) Collegium Musicum (Slovakia) - Divergences (1983) Solaris (Hungary) - Marsbeli Kronikak (1984) Kornelyans (Serbia) - Not an Ordinary Life (1974) Phoenix (Romania) - Cantofabule (1975) Aphrodite’s Child (Greece) - 666 (1972) P.L.J. Band (Greece) - Armageddon (1982) Ciccada (Geece) - A Child In The Mirror (2010) Naxatras (Greece) - Naxatras (2015) ”Arsenal” Ensemble (Russia) - Svoimi Rukami / Created with their own Hands (1983) The “Gunesh” Ensemble (former USSR) - Looking At The Earth (1984) Vespero (Russia) - By the Waters of Tomorrow (2010) Edited by David_D - February 08 2023 at 04:12 |
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Sean Trane
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Mmmmhhh!!!... (Poland included)
11 Aphrodite's Child 666 Apocalypse of John Gre 1972 11 Fermata Fermata Svk 1975 11 Fermata Huascaran Svk 1977 11 Flamengo Kure V Hodinkach Cze 1972 11 Gleb Kolyadin Gleb Kolyadin Rus 2018 11 Korai Öröm Korai Öröm Hun 1995 11 Methexis Topos Gre 2018 11 Modry Efekt Modry Efekt & Radim Hladik Cze 1975 11 Modry Efekt Svitanie Cze 1977 11 Igra Staklenih Perli - Igra Staklenih Perli Yug 1979 11 More Experience From Acid Dreams Pol 1997 11 Plastic People of the Universe Kolejnice Duni (Rails Rumble) (1977-1982) Cze 11 Jolly Joker & The Plastic Beatles of the Universe Heavy, Funky, Boxing n' Roll CzR 199311 Szabo, Gabor Macho Hun 1975
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let's just stay above the moral melee
prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword |
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nick_h_nz
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Which countries are you including in your definition of Eastern Europe?
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Sean Trane
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YMMV, IMHO I can't speak for the thread opener, but to me, it seems anything east of the old Iron Curtain and Yugoslavia and Greece (& Cyprus) sound "Eastern European" - though I'm not sure I would include the three Baltic countries. .
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nick_h_nz
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That was what I was wondering. Where the line was drawn. So Baltics out, but Belarus (for example), in? Right, I shall have to put some thought into it, as I think I have rather a lot of Eastern European music on my iPod….. |
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Looking forward to seeing your list
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David_D
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agree, the three Baltic countries I will call "Northern Europe", today
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nick_h_nz
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I checked with Wiki to see what they said, and it is fairly obvious there is no real consensus about what is or is not considered Eastern Europe, but leaving the Baltic States out, this is the list from the music on my iPod of the countries that can be considered Eastern Europe:
5R6 (Ukraine)
7Ocean (Belarus) Aesthesys (Russia) Ajna (Hungary) Ars de Er (Belarus) Asymmetry (Belarus) Azathoth Circle (Ukraine) BlackPaperPlanes (Belarus) Blank Manuskript (Austria) Ciolkowska (Russia) Compassionizer (Russia) Daniel Eliseev Project (Bulgaria) Detieti (Russia) Diary of My Misanthropy (Czech) Different Light (Czech) Dikajee (Russia) Disen Gage (Russia) Dordeduh (Romania) Doringo (Croatia) Dreadnought in the Pond (Ukraine) Dusan Jetovic (Serbia) Echoes and Signals (Russia) Eternal Wanderers (Russia) Ethereal Riffian (Ukraine) Everwood (Hungary) Evolvo (Hungary) Existentia (Russia) Exit Oz (Romania) Face the Day (Czech) Fair Wind Pleases (Russia) Fox Territory (Czech) Fren (Ukraine/Poland) Ghost Toast (Hungary) Giorgi Mikadze (Georgia) Gleb Kolyadin (Russia) Gnoomes (Russia) Grey Mouse (Russia) Hail Spirit Noir (Greece) iamthemorning (Russia) Ichthyander Dad’s Only Dolphin (Ukraine) InFront (Russia) Japanski Premijeri (Croatia) Jargon (Greece) Jū (Hungary) Juice Oh Yeah (Russia) Kamille Sharapodinov (Russia) Kazachstán (Czech) Kepzelt Varos (Hungary) Kooba Tercu (Greece) Korzo (Ukraine) Krobak (Ukraine) La Horsa Bianca (Ukraine) Lemurian Folk Songs (Hungary) Life on Venus (Russia) Mariana Semkina (Russia) Massen (Belarus) Mindspeak (Austria) Mission Jupiter (Belarus) Modern Day Babylon (Czech) Morrum (Bulgaria) Mother of Millions (Greece) Mother Turtle (Greece) Need (Greece) Negura Bunget (Romania) Nice Wings, Icarus! (Ukraine) Oaksenham (Armenia) Obiymy Doschu (Ukraine) Pandora Snail (Russia) Poem (Greece) Porto Morto (Croatia) Postcards from Arkham (Czech) Rational Diet (Belarus) River Flows Reverse (Hungary) Roz Vitalis (Russia) Rozmainsky Mikhaylov Project (Russia) Sandbender (Hungary) Satorinaut (Hungary) Sauropoda (Hungary) Sealand Airlines (Ukraine) Second Relation (Austria) Serdce (Ukraine) Shadow Universe (Slovenia) Shiva the Destructor (Ukraine) Slot (Russia) Slow Ride Home (Ukraine) smallman (Bulgaria) solid ground (Montenegro) Somali Yacht Club (Ukraine) Soom (Ukraine) Special Providence (Hungary) Split Lines (Serbia) Tania Giannouli (Greece) The Arkestra (Belarus) The Grand Astoria (Russia) The Legendary Flower Punk (Russia) The Thirteenth Sun (Romania) The Worm Ouroboros (Belarus) Them Moose Rush (Croatia) Thy Catafalque (Hungary) Tigran Hamasyan (Armenia) Time Collapse (Greece) Trappist System Trio (Russia) Triangle Singular (Russia) Vasil Hadzimanov (Serbia) Verbal Delirium (Greece) Vespero (Russia) Victor Go (Ukraine) Villagers of Ioannina City (Greece) Votchi (Czech) Way Station (Ukraine) Whalelephant (Russia) White Walls (Romania) White Ward (Ukraine) Yojo (Russia) Now I just need to work out my favourites from that list! 🤔😄🤪 |
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David_D
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Yes, please very much, Nick, otherwise I don't really understand the point of your list. Maybe you're just kidding with this "work out", but if not and it showed to be possible, I'd appreciate see you shortening your post. - But okay, anyway, you showed the richness of the Eastern Europe musical world, and maybe how overwhelming the present (global) communication possibilities can be. Edited by David_D - November 21 2021 at 07:07 |
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Cristi
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@Nick - SHOW OFF!!!!!!!!!!!
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Apparently 2010 was a good year and I like Russian bands
Vezhlivy Otkaz (Russia) - Gusi-Lebedi (2010) Pikapika Teart (Russia) - Moonberry (2010) Uz Jsme Doma (Czech) - Caves (2010) Rational Diet (Belarus) - On Phenomena & Existences (2010) The Archestra (Belarus) - Arches (2013) Auktyon (Russia) - Eto Mama (2002) Disen Gage (Russia) - The Reverse May Be True (2008) Vangelis (Greece) - Albedo 0.39 (1976) Five Storey Ensemble (Belarus) - Not That City (2013) Gargantua (Poland) - Kotegarda (2007) Vespero (Russia) - By The Waters Of Tomorrow (2010) Zimpel / Ziolek (Poland) - s/t (2017)
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nick_h_nz
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I guess the point of my post, if there were one at all, would have been to illustrate the difficulty I would have to list my favourite 12 East European albums. This list is just from my iPod, and I can probably find more if I look on my external hard drive, or within my CDs. I understand when people ask for favourite releases from one country, but as soon as you get into greater regions, I find it kind of crazy! I mean, I find it difficult enough to find my 12 favourite albums from just one country! Also, consider that, because of the way you worded the question, I didn’t include the 42 artists from Poland that are on my iPod. But ultimately that was not the point of my post, even if that’s a point that could be made from my list. I wasn’t kidding about working out what my 12 favourites are from my list. Why would I have been? Ultimately, I will find it easier to work out my favourite 12, if I have a list to work from. I think, also, that my list is going to be subject to recency bias, and deliberately so - simoly because it is easier to create a list of 12, if I go by what I’m most enjoying at the moment, rather than attempt to work out an all-time favourite. I think there are 20 Ukrainian artists and 30 Russian on my iPod, so I could work out a top 12 from Ukraine, and another top 12 from Russia. I’ve already mentioned the 42 Polish artists, and I’ve still not worked out my favourite albums from them! It’s no criticism on my part, and I meant no point by my list except to assist me, but if you see my list as pointless, I won’t argue that, except to say that what is the point in anything? It’s subjective, of course. I see no point in attempting to work out my 12 favourite East European albums, but I’m still doing it….. 🤷🏻♂️ The list is getting shorter. 😜 5R6 (Ukraine) Aesthesys (Russia) Ajna (Hungary) Asymmetry (Belarus) Ciolkowska (Russia) Compassionizer (Russia) Daniel Eliseev Project (Bulgaria) Detieti (Russia) Different Light (Czech) Doringo (Croatia) Dreadnought in the Pond (Ukraine) Dusan Jetovic (Serbia) Echoes and Signals (Russia) Eternal Wanderers (Russia) Ethereal Riffian (Ukraine) Existentia (Russia) Fair Wind Pleases (Russia) Fren (Ukraine/Poland) Ghost Toast (Hungary) Giorgi Mikadze (Georgia) Grey Mouse (Russia) iamthemorning (Russia) Jargon (Greece) Jū (Hungary) Juice Oh Yeah (Russia) Kamille Sharapodinov (Russia) Kazachstán (Czech) Kepzelt Varos (Hungary) Kooba Tercu (Greece) La Horsa Bianca (Ukraine) Lemurian Folk Songs (Hungary) Mariana Semkina (Russia) Massen (Belarus) Mission Jupiter (Belarus) Morrum (Bulgaria) River Flows Reverse (Hungary) Roz Vitalis (Russia) Rozmainsky Mikhaylov Project (Russia) Sandbender (Hungary) Sauropoda (Hungary) Second Relation (Austria) Shiva the Destructor (Ukraine) Soom (Ukraine) Split Lines (Serbia) Tania Giannouli (Greece) The Grand Astoria (Russia) The Legendary Flower Punk (Russia) The Thirteenth Sun (Romania) Time Collapse (Greece) Triangle Singular (Russia) Vasil Hadzimanov (Serbia) Victor Go (Ukraine) White Walls (Romania) White Ward (Ukraine) |
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nick_h_nz
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I own albums by five of those (all Russian or Belarusian), and Five Storey Ensemble is one of those - and also one I missed off my list, as I guess they are either not on my iPod, or my eye missed them as I was scrolling. Given I generally like most of what you do, I shall have to check out the others. I don’t think I’ve ever listened to a Vangelis album before, and I think I can name only two tracks of his that I have heard. |
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The top two are masterpieces for me and sit amongst my top 10 all time.
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Hi,
In the film BEFORE THE RAIN (Macedonia) ... there was some music by a band called Anastasia that to my knowledge never really existed. That opening piece was excellent and set a great mood for the film, and it is a shame that there was not more music or an album by such a band. I would have bought that album! And instead I got the soundtrack to the film! It was an opening that reminded me of the way we looked at "AGUIRRE" ... you just sat there and ... went wow ... before the whole thing even started ... a hypnotic experience, you could say!
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David_D
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I can surely say, 2010 was a good year in general for my musical taste - 5 albums, and I'm not kidding.
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The way I see it, is to tell others about some of one's personal favourites so, they might get inspired to give them a listen, or at least so they get acquainted with one's taste. Something else quite important as I see it, is to put focus on some countries which otherwise may not get so much attention. Edit: In my case, "the choosing of the favourites" was pretty easy here because I just listed those 12 albums, I've found being fond of over the (many) years.
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nick_h_nz
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Yes, and that is why I am playing along - because I enjoy looking at others’ lists, and learning of new things. I also completely agree with putting focus on countries that otherwise may not get so much attention. But, I guess, I’m not positive this is the best way to do it? Poland is part of Eastern Europe, but had its own post. I feel like other Eastern European countries could also have had their own posts, too. By asking for favourite albums from the whole of Eastern Europe, rather than individual countries within that area (as was the case for Poland), then several countries will still be under-represented in the lists, simply because of “big guns” like Russia. There are several Eastern European countries for which I know no music, and I’d love to be directed to music from those countries. By the way, my list is till getting shorter….. 😜 Ciolkowska (Russia) Compassionizer (Russia) Detieti (Russia) Different Light (Czech) Doringo (Croatia) Dreadnought in the Pond (Ukraine) Dusan Jetovic (Serbia) Existentia (Russia) Fair Wind Pleases (Russia) Ghost Toast (Hungary) Giorgi Mikadze (Georgia) Grey Mouse (Russia) Jargon (Greece) Juice Oh Yeah (Russia) Kooba Tercu (Greece) La Horsa Bianca (Ukraine) Mariana Semkina (Russia) Mission Jupiter (Belarus) Morrum (Bulgaria) River Flows Reverse (Hungary) Roz Vitalis (Russia) Rozmainsky Mikhaylov Project (Russia) Sauropoda (Hungary) Shiva the Destructor (Ukraine) Soom (Ukraine) Tania Giannouli (Greece) The Grand Astoria (Russia) The Thirteenth Sun (Romania) Time Collapse (Greece) Triangle Singular (Russia) Vasil Hadzimanov (Serbia) Victor Go (Ukraine) White Walls (Romania) White Ward (Ukraine) |
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Yes, I can see the problem and inequality, but I did it with my own collection and preferences as the starting point, and others can try to do threads with the other countries individually. I can tell about myself that I have other plans, and no more albums I'm fond of from Eastern Europe.
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Just a suggestion!
Eastern Europe is a HUUUUUGE landmass and not well defined I would break down these "prog zones" as such Russia Ukraine, Belarus & Moldova Baltic States (Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania) Central nations (Poland, Hungary, Czech Rep, Slovakia) Balkan nations (Romania, Bulgaria, Albania & Former Yugoslavia [Serbia, Croatia, Slovenia, Kosovo, Montenegro, North Macedonia]) Greece if counted should really be in its own category possibly with Turkey which has a sliver of territory that is considered Europe (even though the Eurasian landmass is divided solely for cultural purposes.) As for choosing albums, way too many for me to count. Some would also included Caucus nations such as Georgia, Armenia and Azerbaijan as Eastern Europe but seems a stretch in my view considering the Caucus range is technically what divides Europe from Asia. Also Eastern Germany which used to be considered Eastern Europe could be thrown into the Central nations category.
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