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    Posted: November 14 2021 at 02:15
Well, I've got this idea for a thread about our favourite Metal albums, and my own list is presented in a unranked but chronological order. 
In my opinion,  this list can be considered as not less than a very little but yet, quite a lot telling document on Metal history, as the bands 
represent several, different sub-genres, and most of them have been very popular and influential. 
About LedZepps, however you might want to classify them, I surely consider them to be a part of Metal history, and not to do without.
Best with only one album for each band and I'll hope you'll enjoy it!
Be sure to see the Metal poll here, as well.

Black Sabbath  (UK) - Master of Reality  (1971)

(I'm more fond of Paranoid but I see it more as Hard Rock than HM)

Budgie  (UK) - Never Turn Your Back on a Friend  (1973)

Judas Priest  (UK) - Sad Wings Of Destiny  (1976)

Diamond Head  (UK) - Lightning To The Nations  (1980)

Mercyful Fate  (DK) - Melissa  (1983)

Black Flag  (US) - My War  (1983)

Iron Maiden  (UK) - Powerslave  (1984)

Fates Warning  (US) - The Spectre Within  (1985)

Metallica  (US) - Master Of Puppets  (1986)

Celtic Frost  (CH) - “Into The Pandemonium”  (1987)

Voivod  (CAN)  -  Nothingface   (1989)

Psychotic Waltz  (US) - Into the Everflow  (1992)

Tool  (US) - Undertow  (1993)

Kyuss  (US) - Sky Valley  (1994)

Aesma Daeva  (USA)  -  The Eros of Frigid Beauty  (2001)

Taal  (F) - Skymind  (2002)

Indukti  (PL) - S.U.S.A.R.  (2004)

Riverside  (PL) - Second Life Syndrome  (2005)


Well, that's now a couple more than 15.



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In terms of what I think 'Metal' is then I struggle to get far past Iron Maiden. Their 80's albums are virtually unimpeachable for me.

I don't really consider a lot of the bands named to be Metal ( I might be well wrong but were Sabbath ever described at this?). I tend to think it started with the likes of Judas Priest, Saxon and Maiden in the late seventies and then Metallica took it on and made it even more popular. Wiki though does reference Zep, Sabbath and Purple as the pioneers although it does credit Judas Priest with the genre's evolution by discarding the blues influence. 

I do quite like the technical metal stuff of Exivious and Animals As Leaders as well at later Opeth. Mastodon are also a cool band. I also like the Meshuggah album I own.

I could try and put a list together especially if we are counting Deep Purple , Led Zep!
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Cool!

I don't have a fixed list. But here are some of my absolute favourite metal albums:

1-) Beyond Twilight - For the Love of Art and the Making
2-) Symphony X - V: The New Mythology Suite
3-) Amorphis - Tuonela
4-) Opeth - Morningrise
5-) Dream Theater - Awake
6-) Rhapsody (of Fire) - Symphony of Enchanted Lands
7-) Nocturnal Rites - Shadowland
8-) Keldian - Heaven's Gate
9-) Keldian - Journey of Souls
10-) Keldian - Darkness and Light
11-) Metallica - Master of Puppets
12-) Bruce Dickinson - Accident of Birth
13-) Bruce Dickinson - The Chemical Wedding
14-) Iron Maiden - The Number of the Beast
15-) Nightwish - Oceanborn

Some additional: 

Pain of Salvation - The Perfect Element (part 1)
Cradle of Filth - Cruelty and the Beast
Cradle of Filth - Dusk... And Her Embrace
Dimmu Borgir - Enthrone Darkness Triumphant
Limbonic Art - In Abhorrence Dementia
Royal Hunt - Fear
Obituary - The End Complete
Hemlock - Exordium
Therion - Theli
Therion - Vovin

And so on and so forth

Note: The "additional"s are also in the same level with my listed favourite albums. I can come up with hundreds more, likewisely. 

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Armageddon - Armageddon (1975)
Ayreon - The Human Equation (2004)
Black Sabbath - Tyr (1990)
Blue Oyster Cult - Imaginos (1989)
Christopher Lee - Charlemagne: By the Sword and the Cross (2010)
Delain - April Rain (2009)
Dream Theater - Images and Words (1992)
Girlschool - Hit and Run (1981)
Iron Maiden - The Number of the Beast (1982)
Leaves' Eyes - Vinland Saga (2005)
Led Zeppelin - How the West Was Won (2003)
Motorhead - Ace of Spades (1980)
Nightwish - Oceanborn (1998)
Ozzy Osbourne - The Ultimate Sin (1986)
Ritchie Blackmore's Rainbow - Rainbow Rising (1976)
Tarja Turunen - My Winter Storm (2007)
Within Temptation - The Silent Force (2004)


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Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

In terms of what I think 'Metal' is then I struggle to get far past Iron Maiden. Their 80's albums are virtually unimpeachable for me.

I don't really consider a lot of the bands named to be Metal ( I might be well wrong but were Sabbath ever described at this?). 

"In terms of what I think 'Metal' is then I struggle to get far past Iron Maiden."

To begin with, I must say, I had been thinking very much in the same way - it was only beginning with the 80's, the music sounded to me as true Metal.

"I don't really consider a lot of the bands named to be Metal ( I might be well wrong but were Sabbath ever described at this?)"

Nevertherless, that is very much so according to the sources, I've seen, of which I can mention:
Sound of the Beast. The Complete Headbanging History of Heavy Metal (2003) by Ian Christe
Heavy Metal. The Music and it's Culture (2000) by Deena Weinstein
Mean Deviation. Four Decades of Progressive Heavy Metal (2010) by Jeff Wagner

Edit:
The existence of "Heavy Metal" in the 70's can be easyly seen by the name of the sub-genre NWOBHM (New Wave Of British Heavy Metal) which appeared in the late 70's (and included, say Saxon).
- And today, I can only say, those like Sad Wings of Destiny (1976) and Black Sabbat's Vol. 4 (1972) sound like Metal to me - even only as "early Metal".
So, maybe I'll distinguish (now) between "the early Metal" and "the proper Metal".

P.S. I'm very glad of this discussion, richardh, it clarified further my view on "Metal", thank you.

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"Wiki though does reference Zep, Sabbath and Purple as the pioneers although it does credit Judas Priest with the genre's evolution"

As far as I've seen, it's quite widely agreed on today that Black Sabbath is the most important band in inventing the style while, in Jeff Wagner's and Ian Christe's opinion (similar to Wiki), Judas Priest must be seen as the most most important band in founding the genre.
- But concerning the invention of the style, I think, Wiki is very much right in it's point of view.



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Allright, Paul, I like your mentioning of the years, as it's more informative, and it's interesting to see what you're into in this genre.
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Not sure they all count as metal, but here are a fifteen pretty heavy ones:

Armageddon - Armageddon (1975)
Birth Control - Operation (1971)
Black Sabbath - Paranoid (1970)
Blue Öyster Cult - Cultösaurus Erectus (1980)
Budgie - Squawk (1972)
Captain Beyond - Captain Beyond (1972)
Deep Purple - In Rock (1970)
Green Bullfrog - Green Bullfrog (1971)
High Tide - Sea Shanties (1969)
Judas Priest - Sad Wings of Destiny (1976)
Led Zeppelin - Led Zeppelin IV (1971)
Lucifer's Friend - Lucifer's Friend (1970)
UFO - Phenomenon (1974)
Uriah Heep - Abominog (1982)
Wishbone Ash - Twin Barrels Burning (1982)


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The metal categories cast such a wide span. I remember as a kid in the late 60s, early 70s, hearing bands like Led Zeppelin, Black Sabbath, Blue Öyster Cult, Judas Priest, Nazareth, and AC/DC referred to as "Heavy Metal" bands. Often their music was too aggressive/abrasive to get AM radio play (except for their ballads), but was receiving attention from the newly forming FM stations that were using album music formats.

Other than perhaps giving AC/DC a little more credit, I agree with OP that it seemed as if Iron Maiden was the leader in really escalating this music into an art form with it's own separate following--separating itself from the dreary/depressing goth or decrepit blues-rock bands and music. Then Metallica and the rest is history!

I also would reinforce the idea that the tech/extreme metal and all of their offshoot sub-categories almost deserve a separate consideration/thread. Where does one place albums by bands like Atheist, Enchant, Enslaved, Voivod, Exivious, Death, Cynic, Gorguts, Gojira, and Meshuggah? 
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Based upon my limited exposure to and limited understanding of "metal," some albums I really enjoy include:

AC/DC Back in Black

Led Zeppelin II

Blue Öyster Cult Secret Treaties

Thin Lizzy Jailbreak

Votum Harvest Moon

Proghma-C Bar-do Travel

Arcane Chronicles of the Waking Dream

Dream Theater Awake

Mastodon Crack the Skye

Negura Bunget Om

Led Zeppelin IV

The Reticent The Oubliette

The Contortionist Clairvoyant

Stare at the Clouds This Clear Divide

Karnivool Asymmetry

Tool Lateralus

Fen Epoch




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Originally posted by BrufordFreak BrufordFreak wrote:

I agree with OP that it seemed as if Iron Maiden was the leader in really escalating this music into an art form with it's own separate following-

I'm glad to hear that point of view because if accepting the distinqtion between "early Metal" and "proper Metal" then where belongs NWOBHM? - And I must say, I'm not much for considering it as "proper Metal" because to me it's not that different from earlier Judas Priest, or some of Black Sabbath and Deep Purple for that sake.


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Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:

Originally posted by BrufordFreak BrufordFreak wrote:

I agree with OP that it seemed as if Iron Maiden was the leader in really escalating this music into an art form with it's own separate following-

I'm glad to hear that point of view because if accepting the distinction between "early Metal" and "proper Metal" then where belongs NWOBHM? - And I must say, I'm not much for considering it as "proper Metal" because to it's not that different from earlier Judas Priest, or some of Black Sabbath and Deep Purple for that sake.

NWOBHM is not a metal genre, it's exactly what it says in its name, a wave of heavy metal bands , a lot of them influenced by what came before - Purple, Heep, Priest, Budgie, Sabbath and add the likes of punk, Motorhead. 

If hard rock and heavy metal walked hand in hand in the past, with the NWOBHM, heavy metal went ahead and left hard rock behind. Big smile
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Black Sabbath - Sabbath Bloody Sabbath
Deep Purple - Made In Japan (Machine Head)
Led Zeppelin - IV
Rainbow - Rising
Motorhead - Overkill
Budgie - Never Turn Your Back On A Friend
Behold The Arctopus - Hapelectic Overtrove
Diablo Swing Orchestra - Singalong Songs for the Damned & Delirious
Iron Maiden - Seventh Son of a Seventh Son
AC/DC - Powerage
Judas Priest - Sad Wings Of Destiny
Tool - Laterus

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UFO - Strangers In The Night
Pink Fairies - Kings Of Oblivion
Stolen Babies - There Will Be Squabbles
Slayer - Reign In Blood
Meshuggah - Catch Thirty-Three
Ozzy Osbourne - Diary Of A Madman
MC5 - Kick Out The Jams



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Originally posted by BrufordFreak BrufordFreak wrote:

I also would reinforce the idea that the tech/extreme metal and all of their offshoot sub-categories almost deserve a separate consideration/thread. Where does one place albums by bands like Atheist, Enchant, Enslaved, Voivod, Exivious, Death, Cynic, Gorguts, Gojira, and Meshuggah? 

Well, might agree, as they are not in line with my taste (Melissa being difficult enough), and unfortunately not at all represented in my OP - but there's still very good possibility to mention them here. So, this thread may be a good investigation of that idea. 
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- Many of those bands are very popular in general, but I don't really know how much on PA.


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^ nice to see AC/DC's Powerage mentioned, it's my favorite album with Bon on vocals. Tongue
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I think I’d have great difficulty giving you my favourite 15 metal albums from this year, let alone my 15 favourite of all time. 🤪
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Originally posted by nick_h_nz nick_h_nz wrote:

I think I’d have great difficulty giving you my favourite 15 metal albums from this year, let alone my 15 favourite of all time. 🤪


15 albums of 2021 maybe not, but favorite 15 albums in general, I agree, very hard. 
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Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by nick_h_nz nick_h_nz wrote:

I think I’d have great difficulty giving you my favourite 15 metal albums from this year, let alone my 15 favourite of all time. 🤪


15 albums of 2021 maybe not, but favorite 15 albums in general, I agree, very hard. 

I’ve listened to a lot of great metal albums this year. I’d honestly struggle to whittle it down to a list of fifteen that I could be confident were my absolute favourite 15.
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Originally posted by nick_h_nz nick_h_nz wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by nick_h_nz nick_h_nz wrote:

I think I’d have great difficulty giving you my favourite 15 metal albums from this year, let alone my 15 favourite of all time. 🤪


15 albums of 2021 maybe not, but favorite 15 albums in general, I agree, very hard. 

I’ve listened to a lot of great metal albums this year. I’d honestly struggle to whittle it down to a list of fifteen that I could be confident were my absolute favourite 15.


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Some may not be metal, but heavy.  

Alice Cooper - Killer
Alice in Chains - Dirt
Ark - Burn the Sun
Dio - Holy Diver
Dream Theater - Images & Words
Fates Warning - Theories of Flight
Freak Kitchen - Cooking with Pagans
Haken - Visions
Iron Maiden - Piece of Mind
Megadeth - Rust in Peace
ni - Les Insurges De Romilly
Pain of Salvation - Remedy Lane
Panzerballett - Planet Z
Riverside - Anno Domini High Definition
Soundgarden - Down on the Upside 

Honorable mentions...
AC/DC - Back in Black
Aerosmith - Get Your Wings
Black Sabbath - Sabbath Bloody Sabbath
Virgil Donati - Ruination
King Crimson - Red
Robin Trower - Bridge of Sighs




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If hard rock and heavy metal walked hand in hand in the past, with the NWOBHM, heavy metal went ahead and left hard rock behind. Big smile

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