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One - Neal Morse
V - Spock's Beard
Hot Rats - Frank Zappa
The Shaming of the True - Kevin Gilbert
Return to Forever - Return to Forever
Happy the Man - Happy the Man
Suffocating the Bloom - Echolyn
Shadowlands - Glass Hammer
Leftoverture - Kansas
Out of the Abyss - Pentwater
Stained Glass Stories - Cathedral
Wooden Smoke - Mike Keneally
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Originally posted by Progmind Progmind wrote:



Mahavishu Orchestra are from Queens, NYC

I checked, right you are, thanks! 
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I deliberately left Psychedelic Rock out of my list as there are just too many great albums to mention, but here's a couple of late entries I overlooked:-

Dream Theater - Images and Words (1992)
Blue Oyster Cult - Imaginos (1989)
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1. The Mothers Of Invention - Uncle Meat
2. Return To Forever - Romantic Warrior
3. Rascal Reporters - Redux, Vol. 1
4. Dani Lee Pearce - Petrichor
5. Herbie Hancock - Sextant
6. Mahavishnu Orchestra - Visions Of The Emerald Beyond
7. Mr. Bungle - California
8. The Muffins - Manna / Mirage
9. Miles Davis - Bitches Brew
10. Nels Cline - Currents, Constellations
11. Master Cylinder - Elsewhere
12. Happy The Man - Happy The Man

12 more honourable mentions:
* Billy Cobham - Spectrum
* Al Di Meola - Casino
* Weather Report - Heavy Weather
* The Tony Williams Lifetime - Emergency!
* Thinking Plague - In Extremis
* French TV - The Violence Of Amateurs
* Ahleuchatistas - Even In The Midst
* Motor Totemist Guild - City Of Mirrors
* Yowie - Synchromysticism
* Yezda Urfa - Sacred Baboon
* Reuben Gingrich - Blue Island
* The Fourth World Quartet - 1975


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Kansas - Leftoverture
Happy the Man - Happy the Man
Polyphony - Without Introduction
Earrthrise - s/t
Enchant - Juggling 9 or Dropping 10
Spock's Beard - Brief Nocturnes and Dreamless Sleep
Dream Theater - Awake
Astra - The Weirding
Dredg - El Cielo
Chroma Key - Dead Air for Radios
OSI - Blood
Fates Warning -  Perfect Symmetry
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Originally posted by cstack3cstack3 wrote:
"And, I'm curious why Mahavishnu Orchestra is considered a US band?" 

The memembers were of different national origin, but the band was formed in US, and, as already pointed (Progmind), operated in US. So, what other country would you suggest? 

Edit:
And sorry, I didn't see the post, where you agreed.


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Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:

Originally posted by cstack3cstack3 wrote:
"And, I'm curious why Mahavishnu Orchestra is considered a US band?" 

The memembers were of different national origin, but the band was formed in US, and, as already pointed (Progmind), operated in US. So, what other country would you suggest? 

The term "multi-national" is used when musicians come from different countries. 
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Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:

Originally posted by cstack3cstack3 wrote:
"And, I'm curious why Mahavishnu Orchestra is considered a US band?" 

The memembers were of different national origin, but the band was formed in US, and, as already pointed (Progmind), operated in US. So, what other country would you suggest? 

The term "multi-national" is used when musicians come from different countries. 

Yes, I've used this characteristic myself (or "international", exactly speaking), but if we're talking about national lists, what else to do, leave them out of them? That would be a pity, right? Smile


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Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:

Originally posted by cstack3cstack3 wrote:
"And, I'm curious why Mahavishnu Orchestra is considered a US band?" 

The memembers were of different national origin, but the band was formed in US, and, as already pointed (Progmind), operated in US. So, what other country would you suggest? 

The term "multi-national" is used when musicians come from different countries. 

Yes, I've used this characteristic myself (or "international", exactly speaking), but if we're talking about national lists, what else to do, leave them out of them? That would be a pity, right? Smile

I always thought they were American, but I see what some mean when they consider them multi-national. 
Oh well... 
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Thanks to all who participated so far.  Bubblemath has been mentioned several times. Ya'll have some good taste. Tongue Nice to see some bands rarely mentioned, that I'm familiar with, get mentioned... Enchant, The Underground Railroad, Cathedral, and Happy the Man. Lot's of new music to me that I need to check out.  

Originally posted by cstack3 cstack3 wrote:

Also, where's The Dixie Dregs?

Well sir, if you paid attention to the first post, first page, I believe the Dregs are there.
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Originally posted by Grumpyprogfan Grumpyprogfan wrote:

Thanks to all who participated so far.  Bubblemath has been mentioned several times. Ya'll have some good taste. Tongue Nice to see some bands rarely mentioned, that I'm familiar with, get mentioned... Enchant, The Underground Railroad, Cathedral, and Happy the Man. Lot's of new music to me that I need to check out.  


I hope you'll enjoy some of the obscure American favourites on my list. Smile
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I'll assume we're talking favorites, not most important/influential.
Ancient:

1. Utopia - Todd Rundgren’s Utopia 

2. Return to Forever - Romantic Warrior

3. Pat Metheny Group - Still Life (Talking)

4. Steely Dan - Aja

5 .Lenny White - Venusian Summer

6. Santana - Caravanserai

7. Talking Heads - Remain in Light

8. Strawberry Alarm Clock - Incense & Peppermints

9. Babylon - Babylon

10. Pat Metheny & Lyle Mays - As Falls Wichita, So Falls Wichita Falls

11. Devadip Carlos Santana & Mahavishnu John McLaughlin - Love Devotion Surrender

12. Chicago - Chicago Transit Authority


Modern:

1. Bent Knee - Shiny Eyed Babies

2. Unaka Prong - Salinity Now!

3. Maudlin of The Well - Part the Second

4. Pat Metheny - Secret Story

5. Axon-Neuron - Metamorphosis

6. Ghost Medicine - Discontinuance

7. The Flaming Lips - Yoshimi Battles the Pink Robots

8. The Mars Volta - De-Loused in the Comatorium,  Frances the Mute

9. The Reticent - The Oubliette 

10. Monobody - Raytracing

11. Hammock - Silencia

12. The Ghosts of Jupiter - The Great Bright Horses




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Originally posted by cstack3 cstack3 wrote:

What, no Starcastle???  

BLASPHEMY!! 

I know, many/most of you on PA trash Starcastle as a "Yes clone," but they were much more than that. 

Also, where's The Dixie Dregs?  

And, I'm curious why Mahavishnu Orchestra is considered a US band? 
If the name is anything to go by, I would've assumed Mahavishnu Orchestra were an Indian band. Smile
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In no particular order:

Frank Zappa - Civilization Phase III
Gastr del Sol - Upgrade & Afterlife
Adrian Belew - Side 3
Secret Chiefs 3 - Xaphan
Santana - Caravanserai
Todd Rundgren's Utopia
Kansas - Song For America
Analog Missionary - Transmitter
David Torn - Cloud About Mercury
Dream Theater - Awake
Queensrÿche - Operation Mindcrime
Styx - Pieces of Eight

Even when limiting to one album per band/artist, there are so many that deserve a place in a top 12 that it gets rather arbitrary...



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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

If the name is anything to go by, I would've assumed Mahavishnu Orchestra were an Indian band. Smile

However you think about it, you've got a point there. The name is related to the fact that John MacLaughlin, the famous English frontman of the band, was very inspired by some Indian religion/philosophy or maybe an Indian version of Christianity - I know only a little about it but I can tell as much.
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Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

If the name is anything to go by, I would've assumed Mahavishnu Orchestra were an Indian band. Smile

However you think about it, you've got a point there. The name is related to the fact that John MacLaughlin, the famous English frontman of the band, was very inspired by some Indian religion/philosophy or maybe an Indian version of Christianity - I know only a little about it but I can tell as much.



Vishnu would make a nice PA avatar. Smile
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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Vishnu would make a nice PA avatar. Smile

That's for sure, it's a beautiful picture. 
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Then what about this part of a poem by Sri Chinmoy wich is written on the rear of the cover of the album Mahavishnu Orchestra (USA) - Birds of Fire (1973) :

No more my heart shall sob or grieve.
My days and nights dissolve in God's own light.
Above the toil of life my soul 
Is a Bird of Fire winging the Infinite.


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I normally categorize Mahavishnu Orchestra as a British band because of the nationality of its bandleader, but for threads on this site I'll usually abide by how they're classified in the PA database
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Originally posted by Mirakaze Mirakaze wrote:

I normally categorize Mahavishnu Orchestra as a British band because of the nationality of its bandleader, 

It's not that simple, Mirakaze, as it can be very important to consider the whole musical/cultural context, a band is a part of. 
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In my opinion, it doesn't give much meaning, not to consider Mahavishnu Orchestra as an American band, and a part of the country's Jazz>Rock scene - the same considering Weather Report with the Austrian Joe Zawinul as one of the two leaders, and Miles Davis being a very important person in relation to both bands.



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