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Cylli Kat (0fficial) ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: November 10 2017 Location: Right Here Status: Offline Points: 337 |
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My apologies if this topic has been touched on prior to this...
I was just listening to Fates Warning's Perfect Symmetry and it struck me how really solid the playing of Joe DiBiase is. So, I thought it might be nice to show some love for some possibly underappreciated bassists out there. I'm interested in seeing your selections and who I've overlooked! |
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Shadowyzard ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: February 24 2020 Location: Davutlar Status: Offline Points: 4506 |
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Randy Coven!!! Not possibly, but definitely extremely underrated. R.I.P. BTW. He passed away several years ago.
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Another player that comes to my mind is the late, great Charles Tumahai (Be Bop Deluxe).
In the pocket, or wandering 'round, that man could play!!! |
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Bryan Beller. The Aristocrats, Mike Keneally, solo, Joe Satriani, and others. Fierce player with a killer groove.
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I don’t know if Francis Moze is exactly underrated, but I do feel he is overlooked and overshadowed by other bassists, particularly in Magma. Yeah, maybe he is underrated in comparison to Top and Paganotti and Bussonet. And I like Moze for his Gong work. I don’t know what the general consensus would be for people who know Moze work on how highly they would regard him on bass, and I don’t recall reading disparaging comments about him, but, yes, he does get overshadowed. Maybe he is less showy generally, but I doubt many would not consider him to be competent. I can’t really judge it well from a technical standpoint or have much data to say how people feel about him. But possibly underrated, oh yes, I do think so, and I strongly suspect he is most probably underrated by some. Or should that be Moze probably?
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presdoug ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: January 24 2010 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 8717 |
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What springs directly to mind is Helmut Koellen of Triumvirat, who sadly left us on May 3rd, 1977. Unfairly in the shadow of big name players like Chris Squire and Greg Lake, Helmut was also very good at vocals, and six and twelve string guitar, as well! It is his prowess on the Rickenbacker bass guitar, though, that I find the most appealing of all. As a musician/singer/songwriter, the "soul" of Triumvirat, it must be said, but rarely mentioned in magazines or books devoted to bass players. I do what I can to generate interest in this "from the heart" musician. RIP, Helmut Koellen.
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I don't know that Greg Lake was ever discussed as a great bass player. Now don't get me wrong. I think He WAS ! But he was thought of more as a singer and acoustic guitar player in my opinion. But I always pipe up during bass discussions to say "Just listen to it". Forget the keys and the drums and even the singing. Focus on that bass play. He was an incredible bassist.
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Helmut Hattler.
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"Monument" alone elevates Joe DiBiase above the run-of-the-mill. Great bass player. Perfect for Fates.
Indeed. He does not get enough cred.
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Don't worry, Greg Lake was an excellent bassist. I rate John Wetton above him, but both were excellent bassists whose vocals and songs got more attention.
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The late Marcel Jacob of Yngwie Malmsteen's Rising Force and Talisman fame. This video collects some solo bass compositions (and straight-up solos). Some beautiful music here.
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Fantastic, Doug!! Right on the money, he was amazing (I can say that as I saw them live). I'd suggest a couple: a) Mike Howlett, of Gong - check out his work on Gong's "You" LP b) Lothar Meid, of Amon Duul II - great work on "Wolf City" and others, RIP!
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Thomas Miller of Symphony X was always one of my underrated favorites. While I like the band's current bassist Michael Lepond, something about Miller's work on Divine Wings of Tragedy is just on another level.
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presdoug ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: January 24 2010 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 8717 |
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Thanks so much, Chuck! How lucky you were to have seen Helmut live. That Gong bassist is new to me, will check him out; Lothar Meid was great in AD 2 and also the debut album of Klaus Doldinger's Passport!
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Good call, brilliant bass player.
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John G.Perry (Caravan, Quantum Jump, Ant Phillips, Aviator and solo)
Mick Karn (Japan and solo) John Jowitt (Arena, IQ, Drifting Sun, Rain) Lee Pomeroy (Wakeman, Hackett and sessions galore) Paul Webb (Talk Talk) Ralphe Armstrong (Ponty, sessions) Percy Jones (Brand X, sessions) Fabio Zuffanti (Finisterre, La Maschera di Cera) I have many more.... Edited by tszirmay - November 13 2021 at 06:12 |
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dwill123 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: December 19 2006 Status: Offline Points: 4460 |
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Rarely do I ever hear Hadrien Feraud name mentioned. First bass player in John McLaughlin & The 4th Dimension.
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Percy Jones is not underrated. One can make a case for any of the others. I noticed "new bassist" John Jowitt immediately when I first heard IQ's Ever. Glad I was able to see Arena and see the Jowster get his bass on. ![]() |
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Fabio Pignatelli of Goblin & Goblin Rebirth. The very definition of underrated. This man has recorded some of my favorite basslines.
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Another name not often mentioned even thou a little more known that some is Richard Bona.
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