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A lot of punk musicians were prog fans 'unofficially' of course. My favourite story in this regards was a spikey haired punk running up to Phil Collins in an airport and asking for his autograph. It was none other than Rat Scabies of the Damned!
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Originally posted by siLLy puPPy siLLy puPPy wrote:

Of course it exists. Cardiacs are the most famous example.

I made this list on Rate Your Music

It's a small but interesting cross-pollination!



Really great list, thanks siLLy puPPy!!!!
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Originally posted by Catcher10 Catcher10 wrote:

Punk Cajun Polka Disco Screamo.....does it exist?

Bossa Illbient Shoegaze Musique Concrète...does it exist?
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Originally posted by verslibre verslibre wrote:

Originally posted by Catcher10 Catcher10 wrote:

Punk Cajun Polka Disco Screamo.....does it exist?

Bossa Illbient Shoegaze Musique Concrète...does it exist?

It should!!

One thing I'm missing in this discussion is the wealth of math rock bands that blend a pop punk/indie rock sound with unconventional song structures and complex rhythms and time signature changes. Invalids, This Town Needs Guns and Tera Melos are but a few examples
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Originally posted by Mirakaze Mirakaze wrote:

Originally posted by verslibre verslibre wrote:

Originally posted by Catcher10 Catcher10 wrote:

Punk Cajun Polka Disco Screamo.....does it exist?

Bossa Illbient Shoegaze Musique Concrète...does it exist?

It should!!

One thing I'm missing in this discussion is the wealth of math rock bands that blend a pop punk/indie rock sound with unconventional song structures and complex rhythms and time signature changes. Invalids, This Town Needs Guns and Tera Melos are but a few examples


right!


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                      quality over quantity, and all kind of PopcoRn almost beyond
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If anybody's interested in the American Post-Punk and Art-Punk, I can recommend the book Our Band Could Be Your Life. Scenes from the American Indie Underground 1981-1991  by Michael Azzerad - but be aware of the fact that even the author is sympathetic with the movement, he nevetherless often gives a rather unpleasant depiction of the portrayed bands.

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                      quality over quantity, and all kind of PopcoRn almost beyond
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Hi,

if you are looking for newer bands, I think 
  • Black Midi and 
  • Black Country, New Road
are often mentioned as post punk as well as prog / post rock.

(I like both of them, but don't know enough about punk to judge if this is correct.)
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Here and Now or try this:

https://youtu.be/dPkt-JS_jDA
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Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

A lot of punk musicians were prog fans 'unofficially' of course. My favourite story in this regards was a spikey haired punk running up to Phil Collins in an airport and asking for his autograph. It was none other than Rat Scabies of the Damned!


Luckily for Rat, he wasn't in the Pistols. Maclaren would have sacked him for being in the same room as a member of Genesis..!
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Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

A lot of punk musicians were prog fans 'unofficially' of course. My favourite story in this regards was a spikey haired punk running up to Phil Collins in an airport and asking for his autograph. It was none other than Rat Scabies of the Damned!

Indeed. My favorite example is Jello Biafra's (Dead Kennedys, LARD, et al.) love of Magma. Didn't see that coming.
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Don't doubt the reverse, I can see Carl Palmer asking Mick Jones or Iggy Pop for their autograph.
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Originally posted by Lewa Lewa wrote:

Hi,

if you are looking for newer bands, I think 
  • Black Midi and 
  • Black Country, New Road
are often mentioned as post punk as well as prog / post rock.

(I like both of them, but don't know enough about punk to judge if this is correct.)

There's a definite post-punk influence going on with those two bands and their exciting contemporaries. The spoken word type vocals especially sell it. I'd argue there's just as much prog influence going on as well. There's often an eclectic proggish kind of of virtuosity on display. Black Midi in particular seems heavily influenced by King Crimson to my ears. I'm not sure I'd call them prog punk though, as there's not a whole lot of regular old punk left in the songs. Maybe post-prog? Lol.
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I don't know if anyone knows this woman and her band, Mega Bog. She lives out in the NW US. Her name is Erin Birgy and she was born in Idaho. Anyway, when I first heard this song, I sort of muttered "punk prog" to myself because of the way she sings, kind of unsettling and dark.The song is called "Diznee". Wiki lists her as an "experimental" musician.



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Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

Don't doubt the reverse, I can see Carl Palmer asking Mick Jones or Iggy Pop for their autograph.



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