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CosmicVibration
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Posted: October 31 2021 at 15:33 | ||||
"And there are scientific studies that show quite clearly you are more
likely to spread Covid-19 if you are unvaccinated. You should not be
around sick people if you will in all likelihood get them even more ill." We are comparing natural immunity to vaccinated immunity. Even without any studies, if you have any clue as to how the gene therapy works it should be obvious.
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BaldJean
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Posted: October 31 2021 at 15:42 | ||||
and how, pray, do you know if someone is naturally immune?
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CosmicVibration
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Posted: October 31 2021 at 15:49 | ||||
Use the same metric as they do for the vaccine efficiency; antibody test. Edited by CosmicVibration - October 31 2021 at 15:50 |
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BaldJean
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Posted: October 31 2021 at 16:00 | ||||
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A shot of me as High Priestess of Gaia during our fall festival. Ceterum censeo principiis obsta |
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Lewian
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Posted: October 31 2021 at 16:30 | ||||
Israel has 2 million healthcare workers? All in a study? I was asking for evidence for the claim you made of course "most of the health care workers...". I don't think there are 80 studies about this one, I'd be surprised if you could point me to a single one.
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CosmicVibration
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Posted: October 31 2021 at 17:16 | ||||
Yes, the immune system is extremely complex and antibodies are just a part of it. However, if you get your antibody levels checked, you’ll know if came into contact with the virus and build immunity towards it. You can also compliment that test with a T cell memory test. Fact of the matter is, natural immunity is far superior then the experimental gene therapy. What metric did they use to come to the conclusion that the vaccine is waning and boosters are necessary? I thought it was an antibody test. |
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CosmicVibration
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Posted: October 31 2021 at 17:20 | ||||
Healthcare workers are not people? Does it matter if the individuals in the studies were Healthcare workers, schoolteachers etc.? My only assumption was that most of them already came into contact with the virus and have immunity. |
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progaardvark
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Posted: November 01 2021 at 10:56 | ||||
Well, here we ago again... and again... and again... and again... It's almost like getting a monthly colonoscopy.
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JD
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Posted: November 01 2021 at 14:19 | ||||
Ah...Revenge, thou art such a sweet mistress. |
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JD
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Posted: November 02 2021 at 13:55 | ||||
The truthiness is in the weeds... |
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Atavachron
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Posted: November 02 2021 at 21:32 | ||||
What today's elections show is what we've traditionally seen: the true majority of voters state-to-state are moderate, often conservative, and basically want their communities to be well and their kids to be safe. The Dems need to more deeply grasp this or continue to inexplicably lose to Trump republicans in '24. It's not so much about politics as it is about schools, crime, jobs and first responders. Abortion & gun laws may be hot issues but not immediate ones. It ain't rocket science. |
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"Too often we enjoy the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought." -- John F. Kennedy
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rogerthat
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Posted: November 02 2021 at 21:44 | ||||
Would you say voters are exhausted by the spat between progressive and moderate Dems for which there is seemingly no end in sight (with the result that the first year and a half of Biden's presidency is going to be a wash)? Edited by rogerthat - November 02 2021 at 21:44 |
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Atavachron
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Posted: November 02 2021 at 21:52 | ||||
^ No, I wouldn't. I don't think it's that complex or political. If Dems had said "we support parents and cops and firefighters" instead of "we support politicians and vaccines and climate", they might've gotten it right. |
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"Too often we enjoy the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought." -- John F. Kennedy
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rogerthat
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Posted: November 02 2021 at 22:34 | ||||
So that means they could still turn it around in the mid terms if they just got the message right. |
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Atavachron
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Posted: November 02 2021 at 23:06 | ||||
Possibly. And what of old man Joe, certainly lucid but a few steps away from a stroke with an unpopular Harris behind him? I think moderate Republicans may have a chance to revitalize their party. |
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"Too often we enjoy the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought." -- John F. Kennedy
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Easy Money
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Posted: November 03 2021 at 07:13 | ||||
Democrats seem to show no understanding of the concerns of working families. It was trump's pathetic response to covid that put the democrats back in power with the backing of suburban moms, but the dems are losing touch with that base now. Liberals don't know how to fight trump because they let trump define the parameters while the libs go on the defensive. The only people who can stop trump are those conservatives who know he is corrupt. Will they stand up and fight him, we will see. |
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SteveG
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Posted: November 03 2021 at 07:19 | ||||
As I've said for many a moon, Dems are their own worst enemies. That's the main reason for the this turnout. The infighting between conservatives and progressives is toxic. Passing at least the infrastructure bill would have helped somewhat to show these two divisions could actually work together.
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Easy Money
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Posted: November 03 2021 at 08:00 | ||||
^ Both Obama and trump could unify their party, but there are too many dems these days with lofty ideals who will not get with the majority dems and Joe and Nancy are losing their ability to rope them in.
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Easy Money
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Posted: November 03 2021 at 08:06 | ||||
The wild card for 2024 is Adam Kinzinger, a conservative repub who does not want trump back in the white house. I believe a big reason he is not running for the house again is because he wants to concentrate on stopping trump in 2024. If Liz Cheney loses her seat because of trump, then there is a good chance you will see what's left of the Bush/Cheney group to go against trump as well. We shall see.
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JD
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Posted: November 03 2021 at 12:18 | ||||
Video truth of the week. Go to 1:43 and just watch the parody begin. Someone's got their nose deep in the motherload. |
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