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Originally posted by Mila-13 Mila-13 wrote:

Which means that you are accepting the first one or not? It get's more and more energetic.

I'm not rejecting anything
In the end you know you (me and everyone else) have to choose one final nomination. 
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If you have a sec, listen to her guitar solo. It starts at 3:30. She is a one-woman-act/band, a real powerhouse! Clap


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Originally posted by Mila-13 Mila-13 wrote:

If you have a sec, listen to her guitar solo. It starts at 3:30. She is a one-woman-act/band.

Like I said, I'm not rejecting anything. 
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Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by Mila-13 Mila-13 wrote:

If you have a sec, listen to her guitar solo. It starts at 3:30. She is a one-woman-act/band.
Like I said, I'm not rejecting anything. 

 Ok thanks! Let's see, maybe someone comments on them.



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First listens up to here, with additions for tigerfeet:

tigerfeet:  Ellips “Maailma on Rikki”  I like the way they look on stage, After a vocal into, heavy guitar, bass, flute and drums.  Very energetic performance, definitely hear some Icelandic vibe to the music, too.  I enjoy a lot of the bands who draw from their ancestry in the north, this is heavier than most I listen to, which tends to the dark folk side, but this is quite enjoyable in this group, for me.  Blending some psych in too, with some extended jamming and solos.  Imelda May “Johnny Got A Boom Boom”  Cool instrumentation, kind of a jazz/rockabilly quintet with a large tar-lke drum and other percussion, stand up bass, electric guitar and trap set.  Enjoyable for the novelty of it, but I do like your second selection the best here.   

Lorenzo:  Cristina Donŕ “Ho Sempre Me”  This one has a bit more of a slow build, I anticipate heaviness and am rewarded.  This has some nice strings, too.  I like the distorted guitars.  It’s a bit more sophisticated than most of these rockers have been.  Carmen Consoli “Besame Giuda”  Discordant guitar whangling and a very passionate, emotive vocal, there is a punkish sensibility to this to my ear, even the vocalist isn’t angry sounding.  And also, alt/rock.  Ustmamo “Tannomai”  More whangling guitars and this time, with a more scolding sort of vocal, a bit sing-song style.  Chorus of singers comes in toward the end.  Your first selection was most pleasing for me, stylistically.

Mila:  Tash Sultana “Murder To The Mind” This one is very sensual and sultry, yet also cool, gets into heavier territory for dynamics.  Very cool brass section as well.  Lead guitar solo 3/4ths in is smoking!   Courtney Barnett “History Eraser  This is a sing-songy vocal with washy instrumentation, alt/rocky and with wry lyrics.  I do like both, but prefer the musicality of Tash. 


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@Nickie

I like Heater Nova's song.
Good rock ballad with a catchy chorus. Much of the beauty comes from the woman's singing, which takes inflections, typical accents, I suppose geographically determined.

I also like the Pretenders song, more robotic, angular, the sound is harsh and dry - but I like it less.

Instead I don't like the second option very much.
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Originally posted by jamesbaldwin jamesbaldwin wrote:

@Nickie

I like Heater Nova's song.
Good rock ballad with a catchy chorus. Much of the beauty comes from the woman's singing, which takes inflections, typical accents, I suppose geographically determined.

I also like the Pretenders song, more robotic, angular, the sound is harsh and dry - but I like it less.

Instead I don't like the second option very much.

Thank you, I always enjoy getting feedback and honesty, too.  Smile  Agreed, Heather is more of a "vocalist," although what Chrissie Hynde does with most of her material is subtly difficult to actually pull off (not in this piece, however).  Debra Iyall comes direct from the SF punk scene.  
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Originally posted by jamesbaldwin jamesbaldwin wrote:

Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

Originally posted by jamesbaldwin jamesbaldwin wrote:

@Logan

I hoped that opening the Midori's video would start a Japanese Manga, and instead...


It's not quite as titillating as the album cover would suggest, and potentially much more shocking. It really is a nicer album than that abrasive song suggests, but I felt that most appropriate for this topic. By the way, I like to keep abreast of a variety of Japanese media.

I like a lot this song, strong contender to the podium.


Well, glad you enjoy it. I appreciate it but thought others might comment on it being too noise-y. The piano break, as Nickie refers to, I find very pretty and like that contrast

Originally posted by Snicolette Snicolette wrote:

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Greg: Melt-Banana “Shield for Your Eyes, a Beast in the Well on Your Hand” Wrangling guitar noise dominates this one, almost atonally, very pointedly. Then kinda screechy female voices add their own pointedness, at a headlong pace all through, punkish and in your face. Midori “ミドリ — かなしい日々” Cacophony from the start and another kinda yelling vocal. I like the piano breaks, this is very in-your-face madwoman music. 1/2 in break with sweet voiced portion instead of a guitar solo. Abrupt end. Eskaton “Dagon” Kind of psych organ sounds, waves and an operatic voice, that becomes a bit discordant at times. Gets to becoming kind of a bad trip 2/3rds in, in a good way. As you likely know I do like this kind of stuff, enjoy the dynamics of a build. This would be my fave of yours here.


I love Eskaton, but would feel like I'd be cheating a bit by including that one. I wouldn't, but as it is in PA and is a well-known band in Zeuhl circles. I love "Dagon".

I actually am still favouring the Melt-Banana, even if I now feel a little banana-split due to comments as I was so confident in that choice when I posted it. It fit the brief for me of being very energetic rock and I was going to avoid mentioning any in PA (Koenji Hyakkei from Japan, and is Zeuhl, being one that came to mind). My mind did go to the more frenetic/ hectic punk-rock place when I read the OP. I thought about doing one from the Plasmatics too with Wendy O.

Here is a live performance of Melt-Banana with the same song not opening for Camel (poor sound quality, but then perhaps with the "noise" it would be hard to tell anyway).



I have seen Melt-Banana's vocals compared to Mickey Mouse. A high-energy Japanese rockin' and rappin' punk Mickey Mouse female sounds like something special to me. :)

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Continuing where I left off on page one:

Lewian: I like both of those choices about equally, but might favour Sylvia Juncosa - One in Three for the poll.

Kees: Of the Anouks, I prefer Anouk - It's a New Day, but for me the other fits the brief better. Having now listened to the Izia, that is my clear favourite of yours.

George: Gotta go with the Grinch here. ;) Of your choices I favour Dead Sara - Weatherman.

Malcom: Joanne Shaw Taylor certainly does rock. Now that I have heard your three choices, I think I favour Imelda May. A different sort of performance that I had conceives of when I saw this poll and an interesting choice. Good to see the variety in choices.

Lorenzo: I appreciate each of yours in its own way, but my favourites are Carmen Consoli - Besame Giuda and Ustmamo: Tannomai.

Nickie: I like all three, knew The Pretenders one. I think I favour Heather Nova's "Walk This World.

Mila: Courtney Barnett's History Eraser was more in my wheelhouse, but I appreciated the other. Of course no one here should be unwise enough to be influenced by my impressions. ;)

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Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:



Well, glad you enjoy it. I appreciate it but thought others might comment on it being too noise-y. The piano break, as Nickie refers to, I find very pretty and like that contrast
  Yes, that is why it caught my ear.  Those banana-split decision, not very apeeling.
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Not sure whether you call this "rocking" but I do...
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There's a problem I have with quite a bit of music here, which is that I'm not very keen on what I call rock'n roll cliches. Obviously that's not the fault of the ladies but rather I could probably write this in any poll called "the rocking (whoever)". There, I said it... Embarrassed

I do like some energy in my music though, and sometimes it's a fine line and some rocking stuff wins over my heart...
There's a clear winner among cristi's suggestions, which is Blood Ceremony.
Same for JD, The Runaways head and shoulders over the other two.
With TCat's list as well I have to scroll down to find the better stuff, L7 has the kind of energy I like, post punk and grunge are surely closer to my heart than vintage style rock, but then there's a female post rock band and good at that. Hadn't heard of them but I for sure have to check them out.
More of the same pattern with suitkees: Izia sends me many more sparks than Anouk.

That's it for now, and thanks to all who write about all the suggestions and even in detail. I don't really manage to do this but love reading it. Heart


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Originally posted by Lewian Lewian wrote:

There's a problem I have with quite a bit of music here, which is that I'm not very keen on what I call rock'n roll cliches. Obviously that's not the fault of the ladies but rather I could probably write this in any poll called "the rocking (whoever)". There, I said it... Embarrassed

I do like some energy in my music though, and sometimes it's a fine line and some rocking stuff wins over my heart...
There's a clear winner among cristi's suggestions, which is Blood Ceremony.
Same for JD, The Runaways head and shoulders over the other two.
With TCat's list as well I have to scroll down to find the better stuff, L7 has the kind of energy I like, post punk and grunge are surely closer to my heart than vintage style rock, but then there's a female post rock band and good at that. Hadn't heard of them but I for sure have to check them out.
More of the same pattern with suitkees: Izia sends me many more sparks than Anouk.

That's it for now, and thanks to all who write about all the suggestions and even in detail. I don't really manage to do this but love reading it. Heart


  I agree that, indeed "the rocking (whoever)" are not my favourite genre, either.  And it's not that I don't enjoy women performers, in fact, I love many women in  music, there just wasn't much to choose from in the era that I do like more rocking type music from, which would be the 60's.  Just a few, and most would be way too well known for me to include (even though I did use a Jefferson Airplane song in the previous poll, I do try for the lesser-knowns), people like Janis Joplin (who I really like best with the more raw Big Brother than her "Pearl," era) and Tina Turner.  Most women in those days were pop, or folk, and, for me, because of the more formulaic side of "rock," the latter-day women just don't do as much for me as their earlier sisters.

I am sure that is no surprise to those here, but it is absolutely not to cast aspersions on those who do enjoy straight-ahead rock in any form...as stated, I like some, too, it's just a smaller field for me than for some.  I am pleasantly surprised by hearing some of what I am unfamiliar with, here, however, as of course, I am the first one to note that I don't know everything, nor am a averse to having my ears stretched in unaccustomed manners (ouch!  lol).


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Originally posted by Lewian Lewian wrote:

There's a problem I have with quite a bit of music here, which is that I'm not very keen on what I call rock'n roll cliches. Obviously that's not the fault of the ladies but rather I could probably write this in any poll called "the rocking (whoever)". There, I said it... Embarrassed


I don't understand or better said i don't know what exactly you are saying. 
There were themes I wasn't particularly fond of but for the fun and sake of the game I participated. 
There were songs posted in the game that did nothing for me throughout the games, but I never felt the need to point them out or anything.




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Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by Lewian Lewian wrote:

There's a problem I have with quite a bit of music here, which is that I'm not very keen on what I call rock'n roll cliches. Obviously that's not the fault of the ladies but rather I could probably write this in any poll called "the rocking (whoever)". There, I said it... Embarrassed


I don't understand or better said i don't know what exactly you are saying. 
There were themes I wasn't particularly fond of but for the fun and sake of the game I participated. 
There was songs posted in the game that did nothing for me throughout the games, but I never felt the need to point them out or anything.

I'm not complaining. The thing is I like controversy and criticism, and I like to be challenged. The poll is fine even though it's not that much down my alley. What I less like (although I grudgingly adapt at times) is the idea that only positive things should be said.
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Originally posted by Lewian Lewian wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by Lewian Lewian wrote:

There's a problem I have with quite a bit of music here, which is that I'm not very keen on what I call rock'n roll cliches. Obviously that's not the fault of the ladies but rather I could probably write this in any poll called "the rocking (whoever)". There, I said it... Embarrassed


I don't understand or better said i don't know what exactly you are saying. 
There were themes I wasn't particularly fond of but for the fun and sake of the game I participated. 
There was songs posted in the game that did nothing for me throughout the games, but I never felt the need to point them out or anything.

I'm not complaining. The thing is I like controversy and criticism, and I like to be challenged. The poll is fine even though it's not that much down my alley. What I less like (although I grudgingly adapt at times) is the idea that only positive things should be said.

and here I thought I'd make an easy to do, fun round. It seems I failed. Ouch
Well, you are challenged, pick a cool song we'd have fun listening to here. LOL
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Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

ies but rather I could probably write this in any poll called "the rocking (whoever)". There, I said it... Embarrassed
I don't understand or better said i don't know what exactly you are saying. 
There were themes I wasn't particularly fond of but for the fun and sake of the game I participated. 
There were songs posted in the game that did nothing for me throughout the games, but I never felt the need to point them out or anything.


  I absolutely hope you don't take umbrage at my thoughts, Cristi.  You make a good point, and my opining was not at all meant as a criticism of the topic.  More that I had trouble coming up with suitable entries, and have, as often is the case (definitely the electronic music theme comes to mind, here), been really surprised by how much I thought a topic might not be right up my alley, and then have found much to enjoy.  The same has occurred here, for me.  More thinking out loud about my own process.  My sincerest apologies, if indeed I caused any hurt feelings, for that is not ever an intent of mine, towards anyone, and especially not anyone who has done so much within these polls, which I find a great pleasure, due to their diversity.  

You certainly have not failed, it is and has been fun, and I've had a blast writing about it, as well as listening!


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Originally posted by Snicolette Snicolette wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

ies but rather I could probably write this in any poll called "the rocking (whoever)". There, I said it... Embarrassed
I don't understand or better said i don't know what exactly you are saying. 
There were themes I wasn't particularly fond of but for the fun and sake of the game I participated. 
There were songs posted in the game that did nothing for me throughout the games, but I never felt the need to point them out or anything.


  I absolutely hope you don't take umbrage at my thoughts, Cristi.  You make a good point, and my opining was not at all meant as a criticism of the topic.  More that I had trouble coming up with suitable entries, and have, as often is the case (definitely the electronic music theme comes to mind, here), been really surprised by how much I thought a topic might not be right up my alley, and then have found much to enjoy.  The same has occurred here, for me.  More thinking out loud about my own process.  My sincerest apologies, if indeed I caused any hurt feelings, for that is not ever an intent of mine, towards anyone, and especially not anyone who has done so much within these polls, which I find a great pleasure, due to their diversity.  

My post was addressed to Lewian. 
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I actually also like the diversity of the polls, and then it'll of course necessarily happen that I find more for some than for others.
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Originally posted by Lewian Lewian wrote:

I actually also like the diversity of the polls, and then it'll of course necessarily happen that I find more for some than for others.

I think this round is moving on nicely. 

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