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Poll Question: Nominate one piece and vote for three
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Originally posted by Snicolette Snicolette wrote:

Originally posted by Lewian Lewian wrote:

I stick to Wim Mertens (the other one, Deep Forest, wasn't even commented on; I was pretty sure to not nominate it anyway).
  I actually did comment, but both of yours are on my "relisten if chosen," list.  Smile

I take that back, I  think I inadvertently didn't add it after your first one?  Here is my take:

Christian:  Deep Forest “Sweet Lullaby”  (I am unfamiliar with this) Pan-type flutes (or done on keys?) and chanting open the piece.  There are sounds of crickets interspersed.  A woman’s voice softly sings while drums and keys underpin her voice.  The opening part repeats.  Hypnotic sort of song.  The woman returns and is joined by a choral group, sounds like children included.  Interesting how the vocalizations are similar to African ones and also, sometimes like Hawaiian Islands singing.  Nevertheless, a sense of antiquity to it.  You could choose either of yours and they will be in the “second listen,” category for me. 

I think I did get all up to here, please let me know if I missed anyone's that were in the running potentially.




Thanks for this... I was somewhat manipulative fishing for comments with that posting, obviously I don't take them for granted!! I'm happy that at least you didn't know it - maybe Deep Forest are more of a European phenomenon - or I overestimate generally how well known this is. Listening to this for the first time was one of these moments of discovering a totally different way of making music to what I was familiar with. I absolutely loved it - now unfortunately to some extent affected by disapproval of the way how Deep Forest didn't properly credit and surely didn't pay those who did much of the marvellous work on it. (I'm not opposed to using these things in the first place and putting them together in new ways as some are.)
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First thoughts on Mila's addition:

Mila:  Damon Locks – Black Monument Ensemble “NOW (Forever Momentary Space)”  Repeating telephone or modem sounds, then steady beat of drums.  Trilling oboes and harp swirlies.  Slightly dissonant female vocals.  This is very infectious.  Oboe solo (with drums and cymbal crashes).  There are beautiful layerings of the female chorus with added higher voices, then back to jamming on the oboe (or is it a clarinet?  I should know, I knoe, but not sure).  All drops out except for the modem beep sound and the chorus, then back to drums and reeded instrument (lol, I cheated).  Swirlies return for another time.   The chorus is back, plaintively, reed and drums accompanying them.  Shimmery sounds end the piece.  That was fantastic.  😊
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Originally posted by Lewian Lewian wrote:


Thanks for this... I was somewhat manipulative fishing for comments with that posting, obviously I don't take them for granted!! I'm happy that at least you didn't know it - maybe Deep Forest are more of a European phenomenon - or I overestimate generally how well known this is. Listening to this for the first time was one of these moments of discovering a totally different way of making music to what I was familiar with. I absolutely loved it - now unfortunately to some extent affected by disapproval of the way how Deep Forest didn't properly credit and surely didn't pay those who did much of the marvellous work on it. (I'm not opposed to using these things in the first place and putting them together in new ways as some are.)

Yeah, sometimes things can feel sort of tainted by what you know, later on.  However, just listening without judging the artist or the situation, which is what I try to do with a few artists I find disappointing on a personal level.  
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote JD Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 12 2021 at 13:24
Tough choice for me on this one as I really love Joe Jackson's harmonies but also really love the power of the choir in the Man title.

I'll go with:
Man - Sospan Fach (Live)
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Originally posted by Snicolette Snicolette wrote:

First thoughts on Mila's addition:
Damon Locks – Black Monument Ensemble “NOW (Forever Momentary Space)”  Repeating telephone or modem sounds, then steady beat of drums.  Trilling oboes and harp swirlies.  Slightly dissonant female vocals.  This is very infectious.  Oboe solo (with drums and cymbal crashes).  There are beautiful layerings of the female chorus with added higher voices, then back to jamming on the oboe (or is it a clarinet?  I should know, I knoe, but not sure).  All drops out except for the modem beep sound and the chorus, then back to drums and reeded instrument (lol, I cheated).  Swirlies return for another time.   The chorus is back, plaintively, reed and drums accompanying them.  Shimmery sounds end the piece.  That was fantastic.  😊
Thank you Nickie, you are our music critic queen! I'm glad that you liked this one. The music was recorded in only a few takes. Some first time members of the ensemble had never played or sung the tunes before. For Locks, the impetus was more about getting together to commune and make art than it was about producing an album. I will provide some more info later. - Oh, and the wind instrument is a clarinet. You can see the player at the beginning of the video. It's basically a jazz tune so that makes sense. Smile



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Originally posted by Mila-13 Mila-13 wrote:

Thank you Nickie, you are our music critic queen! I'm glad that you liked this one. The music was recorded in only a few takes. Some first time members of the ensemble had never played or sung the tunes before. For Locks, the impetus was more about getting together to commune and make art than it was about producing an album. I will provide some more info later. - Oh, and the wind instrument is a clarinet. You can see the player at the biginning of the video. It's basically a jazz tune so that makes sense. Smile

  Truly a standout, at least for me, haven't heard much else quite like it.  And thank you for clarinet-ifying Wink the reeded instrument.
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Your word creation has PA jargon potential! LOL

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Originally posted by Mila-13 Mila-13 wrote:

Your word creation has PA jargon potential! LOL

  I love to make truly awful puns.  Sad but true.  
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote The Anders Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 12 2021 at 18:43
As we speak, I have nominations from everyone except suitkees, SuperMetro and dr wu23. The latter two only submitted one song each if I remember correctly, so unless they state otherwise, I will count these as their nominations.
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My nomination is: Silver Mt. Zion Memorial Orchestra & The Tra-la-la Band with Choir - So Some Lonesome Corners So Many Flowers Bloom
Or, if you want it a bit Shorter: Silver Mt. Zion - So Some Lonesome Corners So Many Flowers Bloom

Haven't had the occasion to listen to anything yet; I hope I will be able to do that in the coming days...

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So now all nominations are in. You can start voting Smile
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Thank you for the playlist, George!
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Originally posted by mathman0806 mathman0806 wrote:

Playlist!



https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PL-zzvl_w6Fx6uUQmqkHTPg6u3rVsJPotm

Thanks, George!

In the image we see Pasolini on the set of the medium-length film "La Ricotta" (with Orson Welles), which is perhaps his masterpiece. It is part of a collective film where 5 directors, including Godard, participate with a medium-length film. Ricotta speaks of the representation of the passion of Christ and is a parable about poverty because the actor who has to be Christ ... I would not like to spoil you! Wink
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Roberto de Simone - Kyrie
Damon Locks - Black Monument Ensemble - "NOW"
Krzysztof Penderecki - Agnus Dei

Was very tempted to go with Phoenix-Mugur de Fluier. Oh well, consider it a write-in extra vote. You're not going to "hear it" yourself probably and might doubt my sanity for saying it (a sane person would not doubt that I am lacking in sanity), but it reminds me in part of George Harrison's Dream Away.



Lots of music I liked, and I love much choral music, but this was tough for me to listen to a lot at once (and I think I might be getting an attention deficit disorder).

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Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

Roberto de Simone - Kyrie
Damon Locks - Black Monument Ensemble - "NOW"
Krzysztof Penderecki - Agnus Dei

Was very tempted to go with Phoenix-Mugur de Fluier. Oh well, consider it a write-in extra vote. You're not going to "hear it" yourself probably and might doubt my sanity for saying it (a sane person would not doubt that I am lacking in sanity), but it reminds me in part of George Harrison's Dream Away.



Lots of music I liked, and I love much choral music, but this was tough for me to listen to a lot at once (and I think I might be getting an attention deficit disorder).


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My podium:

1) Per Nørgård – Wiigenlied

2) Ennio Morricone - Dies Irae

For the third place, I was undecided between:

- Wim Mertens - Maximising the Audience

Phoenix - Mugur de Fluier

Man - Sospan Fach

I go with the the easier listening, the Romanian folk of Phoenix

So, 

3) Phoenix - Mugur de Fluier

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Honorable mentions:

4) Man - Sospan Fach

5) Silver Mt. Zion - So Some Lonesome Corners So Many Flowers B

6) Mediaeval Bæbes - Memorare

7) Krzysztof Penderecki - Agnus Dei

Grand Public's Prize: Bulgarian State Television Female Vocal Choir - Pilentze Pee

Grand Critic's Prize: Wim Mertens - Maximising the Audience
 





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Many thanks to The Anders, for the theme and being conductor; to Lorenzo for the creation; and to George for the playlist!ClapClapClap

Here are my Top Three for this round:

1.        Mila:  I just fell in love with this one.  Damon Locks – Black Monument Ensemble “NOW (Forever Momentary Space)”  Repeating telephone or modem sounds, then steady beat of drums.  Trilling oboes and harp swirlies.  Slightly dissonant female vocals.  This is very infectious.  Oboe solo (with drums and cymbal crashes).  There are beautiful layerings of the female chorus with added higher voices, then back to jamming on the oboe (or is it a clarinet?  I should know, I knoW, but not sure).  All drops out except for the modem beep sound and the chorus, then back to drums and reeded instrument (lol, I cheated).  Swirlies return for another time.   The chorus is back, plaintively, reed and drums accompanying them.  Shimmery sounds end the piece.  That was fantastic.  😊 IF SHE’D CHOSEN:  Meredith Monk & Vocal Ensemble “Songs of Ascension” 

  2.        Kees:  I also fell in love with this one, fickle me.  But the never having heard quite the like of Mila's gave it second place for me.  Silver Mt. Zion Memorial Orchestra & The Tra-la-la Band with Choir “Some Lonesome Corners So Many Flowers Bloom”  Counting out starts this one, it sounds like it’s in a big building, like a dance rehearsal.  Single notes of guitar step into the room, building a feeling of tension, then some layered male and female vocals create a choir sound.    There are some delicate little “plings,” here and there, subtle in the mix.  Male voices come to the fore in a kind of chant and also a round.  The women join in again, similarly to what the chanting/round thing is doing, yet different.  An orchestral swell now are in play, in a ascendant sound.  Single guitar notes with a bell-like sound, then some lush synth shimmers in and out, with some bowed type sounds, then becomes an echoed violin (although it may be being done with effects on another instrument), there are subtle fluted noises also.  Just gorgeous! Melancholy string sounds play with some orchestral hits (horns?) and drums.  The piece slowly fades to it’s end.  I expected a journey and I got one.  Well-done, Kees! *Note:  Sorry for the formatting glitch. 

3.        Christian: A third love, here is a more classical bent from my other choices.  Wim Mertens “Maximizing the Audience”  Solo piano, then cello added.  I already quite like this, for it’s more spare tone.  A more strident sense comes in for just a moment, then becomes contemplative again.  The vocals are all female, richly sung.  Smaller bowed instruments enter now, and the piece moves into a beautiful melody with all of the instrumentation.  A feeling of the tragic to my ear.  So far this is my favourite piece of all, perhaps not unsurprisingly.  I love watching the musician’s joy in the performance.  The pace begins to gallop along a bit, I get the feeling something new is about to happen in it.  The women rejoin, still rich, this now reminds me of mountain traveling, the curving road beneath and the icy summits above.  The pianist add his vocal and soars and swirls around the chorus.  The song builds to a majestic climactic ending.  Just lovely! IF HE’D CHOSEN:  Deep Forest “Sweet Lullaby” 

All of these entered the fray most closely in the battle to win me over, here are my 

Honourable Mentions:

George:  Bulgarian State Television Female Choir “Pilentze Pee”  IF HE’D CHOSEN:  VAST “Touched” or  Zap Mama “Rafiki” 

Lorenzo:  R. De Simone “Kyrie IF HE’D CHOSEN:  A Filetta “A paghjella di l'impiccati” 

Mike:  Krzysztof Penderecki “Agnus Dei”

Cristi:  Phoenix “Mugus de Fluier” 

SuperMetro:  PFM “L’Isola di Niente” 

also, if Greg had chosen:  

Greg: Geinoh Yamashirogumi “Requiem”  



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Originally posted by Snicolette Snicolette wrote:

Lorenzo:  R. De Simone “Kyrie IF HE’D CHOSEN:  A Filetta “A paghjella di l'impiccati” 


I also prefer A Filetta's song, simple, genuine, all based on a melody sung with the soul. 


But in the end I thought of proposing a piece of this strange contemporary opera, the Requiem for Pasolini, to which I am attached, because it has the merit of combining cultured music with pop music, and I thought it could be appreciated. It is more ambitious, and it is a remarkable operation, but I look more at pathos and often the polyphonic songs of A Filetta give me a lot of emotion.

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Originally posted by jamesbaldwin jamesbaldwin wrote:

Originally posted by Snicolette Snicolette wrote:

Lorenzo:  R. De Simone “Kyrie IF HE’D CHOSEN:  A Filetta “A paghjella di l'impiccati” 

I also prefer A Filetta's song, simple, genuine, all based on a melody sung with the soul. 

But in the end I thought of proposing a piece of this strange contemporary opera, the Requiem for Pasolini, to which I am attached, because it has the merit of combining cultured music with pop music, and I thought it could be appreciated. It is more ambitious, and it is a remarkable operation, but I look more at pathos and often the polyphonic songs of A Filetta give me a lot of emotion.

It does look as though the film is quite moving, something I would enjoy seeing sometime.  As always, this was a terribly hard thing to decide on a top 3 for me, and even those might end up in different orders or altogether elsewhere on another day.  Such is music and the emotions.

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