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Poll Question: Nominate one piece and vote for three
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Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:



Thanks for the write-up Nickie, and the Catsody.

I haven't seen the 1974 film (The Smile of the Great Tempter is how I think it translates) starring Glenda Jackson and known in English as The Devil is a Woman (think I have seen some of it) but here is the IMDB description.

"The Mother Superior of a convent wields power in its most vicious forms. And as she as she destroys the people in her care, she herself becomes her own victim as she draws on all her spiritual powers to drive out the tempter."

As for the Atom Heart Mother suite, I love the choral "Breast Milky" part and re-discovered that album (after not listening for many years) at the same time that I discovered this soundtrack -- or just after as I got hugely into Morricone a decade or so ago. I was very into such choral music of the late 60s through 70s music at the time. For that matter, I also discovered William Sheller (included in my last poll sans any votes - lol) at the same time, and Geinoh Yamashirogumi which was in the poll previous to that at the same time. I doubt many here will appreciate it anywhere near as much as I do, but I love it.
  

Glad you enjoyed the Catsody.  Atom Heart Mother is my favourite PF recording.  Always gives me chills.  I used to sleep with the radio on when a teenager, we had the late, great KPPC underground station in Los Angeles.  I would often wake up with AHM playing in the wee, dark hours.  Always a bit spooky, but also delicious to hear with no daylight noises about.
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Originally posted by mathman0806 mathman0806 wrote:



Thanks for sharing Nickie! Started my day with a good chuckle.

Glad you enjoyed, it made me laugh, too!
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First thoughts to end of Page Two with one addition:

Mila:  YL Male Voice Choir “Pohjois-Karjala”  Begins with a solo male, there is some echo, I think it is natural, perhaps, as opposed to a studio effect.  Chorus of males join in, then a second portion of chorus is added to the two going at once.  Solo comes forward again and adds another layer.  High voice soars above the rest.  Abrupt stop, then a new melody begins, second layer of chorus returns, another high voice soars once again.  A third layer, then that high, soaring, once again.  It fades, then all join in for another round.    It ends with a triumphant flourish. Tresor ft. The Soil “Silale”  Steady beat at the start, with a jubilant and buoyant,  happy feeling.  Bass bubbles along underneath, very pleasing tune, with some great dancing on the video.  Layered female vocalist comes to the fore, then back to the main theme.  There is a call and response feel to this as well, perhaps the male and female perspectives in a bit of a discussion, but playful, no real argument.  Meredth Monk & Vocal Ensemble “Songs of Ascension”  Soft chorus that is joined with a harmonium, it would seem, then some high vocalisations punctuate the drone of the harmonium sound.  Strips down to shimmery sounds, then a repeat of what has been preceding.  Now a string section plaintively enters, gorgeous.  A haunting solo female vocal now steps in, softly joined by the strings after a few moments.  The strings are more dissonant now.  Strings pick up and take off on their own, in a change of pace and are joined by a low reed of some sort.  Now the strings go off in another direction and the solo female is heard with them once again.  The drone is back with a more “churchy,” sound to the solo woman’s voice, at least to my ear.  The venue is as much an instrument as the voices and instruments here, as the different parts of the stairway with water at the bottom changes the sonic tones.  Very dissonant strings now, with the harmonium drone again, and many voices comingle.  There are high vocals weaving into the entire ensemble now and the piece comes to a kind of abrupt end.  This is my favourite of yours. 


Greg:  Geinoh Yamashirogumi “Requiem”  Deep boom sounds, with a sense of a slow, slow, march.  Some high bell type notes, or fluted notes are heard, as the pace slowly picks up.  Doom sense, with tension.  A subtle choir enters, with angelic tones.  Organ notes as the choir ceases.  Some whirlies of marimba flitter across the organscape, then a full-on pipe organ iconic sound begins.  Male chorus is now heard, in kind of a harsh way.  The organ becomes more ornate, then scales back again into almost a calliope sound.  The males all come back again, this reminds me of some of those monk things we heard back in the Talk Talk poll.  They roll back and there is a steady beat on Taiko type drums, it sounds like, then more soft chanting is added, with several layers, some are quite high.  It all rolls back once more and soft chorus is back.  Some solo hits of a bass drum, as the chorus is faded and the piece ends.  This is my favourite of yours.
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@JD I like especially Sospan Fach


@Logan
Morricone: another masterpiece of his, strong contender. Wonderful progression and climax


@TCat
The first is very light, on the second, I am very demanding with opera singers, so, I prefer Agnus Dei.

@Lewian 
The Wim Mertens' piece is excellent. Beautiful melodic line played by violins. Contender



Edited by jamesbaldwin - October 08 2021 at 16:56
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@Suitkees

I like a lot Mieskuoro Huutajat - Oulujoki, that I could consider competing with the proposal of The Anders.


@mathman
I prefer Bulgarian State Television Female Choir - Pilentze Pee, evocative


@SuperMetro.
I know this song. In this album Pfm have changed her sound by addressing directly to the American market. In Italy this change has been heavily criticized, and actually I also don't like the production of this album very much. The music is still very refined but has become less melodic and colder. For example, the opening chorus, for which this song is famous, seems to me quite academic, without jolts. But that's just my opinion.


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Originally posted by jamesbaldwin jamesbaldwin wrote:

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@JD I like especially Sospan Fach

Thanks man. Here's the story behind that one. As a teen I worked in camera, stereo and record departments of local retail stores. We were allowed to open a record every now and then to play on the stereo's, but not too loud. Every now and then I'd find something I liked, buy a cassette tape and record it for my listening pleasure. For some reason i had this tape for years but hadn't labeled it. and eventually forgot who the band was. But I always thought the Sospan Fach was some random track that had gotten put on the end of the tape. It was several years later that I rediscovered the album on CD by recognizing the cover of Man's - Back Into The Future. It's still a great album.


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Well known but ,,damn..one of my favorite tracks by the Stones....simply superb.


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This one has been part of my "first aid kit" for years! Thumbs Up

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I will have to reconsider one of my suggestions. The Meredith Monk video features only excerpts from her "Songs of Ascension" project which is certainly an interesting document but it is hard to assess in the context of a music poll. Besides I noticed only now that Lewian mentioned earlier that he had introduced her before in another poll.


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Originally posted by Scicolette Scicolette wrote:

Greg: Geinoh Yamashirogumi “Requiem” Deep boom sounds, with a sense of a slow, slow, march. Some high bell type notes, or fluted notes are heard, as the pace slowly picks up. Doom sense, with tension. A subtle choir enters, with angelic tones. Organ notes as the choir ceases. Some whirlies of marimba flitter across the organscape, then a full-on pipe organ iconic sound begins. Male chorus is now heard, in kind of a harsh way. The organ becomes more ornate, then scales back again into almost a calliope sound. The males all come back again, this reminds me of some of those monk things we heard back in the Talk Talk poll. They roll back and there is a steady beat on Taiko type drums, it sounds like, then more soft chanting is added, with several layers, some are quite high. It all rolls back once more and soft chorus is back. Some solo hits of a bass drum, as the chorus is faded and the piece ends. This is my favourite of yours.


Originally posted by jamesbaldwin jamesbaldwin wrote:

@Logan
Morricone: another masterpiece of his, strong contender. Wonderful progression and climax


Glad you liked the G.Y., Nickie, and you liked the E.M., Lorenzo.

I love each in its own way. I was sure I was going to go with the Ennio Morricone, as I find it powerful, but this presents a dilemma.

My other Geinoh Yamshirogumi choice did well in another poll recently (despite the length), and when I did my soundtracks one I was positive I was going to go with a different Morricone, but then changed it because of a comment (and the choice I went with got no votes). Not that votes really matter, exposure is more important to me, but ultimately I have to follow my gut. Since I kind of regret not going with a Morricone before (he was why I did the soundtracks one), I am still favouring the Morricone for this one. :)
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@Cristi
I especially like the first song by Therion which combines power symphonic metal with almost church choirs,

and the first of Phoenix, with an almost folk song, very catchy.


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Snicolette Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 09 2021 at 17:52
I do know this one, so will not do my usual breakdown of it.  

dr wu23:  Rolling Stones “You Can’t Always Get What You Want”  I quite enjoyed this whole album and had the good fortune to see them live in this era.  A most excellent use of choir in a rock piece and a great choice!


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Originally posted by Mila-13 Mila-13 wrote:

I will have to reconsider one of my suggestions. The Meredith Monk video features only excerpts from her "Songs of Ascension" project which is certainly an interesting document but it is hard to assess in the context of a music poll. Besides I noticed only now that Lewian mentioned earlier that he had introduced her before in another poll.

...although this kind of thing (re-use) happens all the time and isn't a big problem in my view, unless one has the personal ambition to avoid it. (I wouldn't vote for that one though, as I know it.)


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Originally posted by jamesbaldwin jamesbaldwin wrote:

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@Cristi
I especially like the first song by Therion which combines power symphonic metal with almost church choirs,

and the first of Phoenix, with an almost folk song, very catchy.

Therion are the creators of symphonic metal. 

As for the Phoenix song, like I said, in 1992, they re-recorded some of their older songs from the 70s with an orchestra and choirs. 
Here is the original Mugur de Fluier song from 1974. 

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Originally posted by Lewian Lewian wrote:

Originally posted by Mila-13 Mila-13 wrote:

I will have to reconsider one of my suggestions. The Meredith Monk video features only excerpts from her "Songs of Ascension" project which is certainly an interesting document but it is hard to assess in the context of a music poll. Besides I noticed only now that Lewian mentioned earlier that he had introduced her before in another poll.

...although this kind of thing (re-use) happens all the time and isn't a big problem in my view, unless one has the personal ambition to avoid it. (I wouldn't vote for that one though, as I know it.)
I only recently joined the forum. I'm glad that you mentioned Meredith. I was thinking about creating a list with all nominated songs, if there is an interest. And yes, I do have a personal ambition to bring new artists. Smile
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For strong stomachs only:


Try turning up the volume and listening. Be honest: did you make it to the end of the song?


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^ I did make it to the end, and as for now it would clearly be a contender for my part if it is nominated. Intriguing singing style. My parents have some old LP's with traditional music from Sardinia, and there is some vocal music there which sounds a bit like this. Are they Sardinian by any chance?
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Originally posted by The Anders The Anders wrote:

^ I did make it to the end, and as for now it would clearly be a contender for my part if it is nominated. Intriguing singing style. My parents have some old LP's with traditional music from Sardinia, and there is some vocal music there which sounds a bit like this. Are they Sardinian by any chance?

Yes, they are Sardinians. In fact, I don't understand a single word of what they sing. It is an "extreme" way of singing. And I confess that I can't get to the end of the song, due to too much repetition (I like the first 1-2 minutes). So, I envy you, you know how to appreciate it.

I love Corsican folk songs. And it is interesting how in Corsica there is nothing similar to Tenores Di Bitti (Corsica and Sardinia are two islands very close and the language of the north of Sardinia is similar to Corsican) - paradoxically, the Corsican language is much more similar to Italian (in fact it is its dialect) of the Sardinian language.

For the nomination, you made me doubt. Who knows, if anyone else appreciates ...
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Lorenzo:

As you can doubtless imagine, with a challenge like that, I did make it all the way through.  It sounded a bit like an accordion quartet, if there was such a thing, lots of drone.  Also felt a little like those hard little dental floss brushes in my brain, but not altogether unpleasant.  I do have a lot of patience for repetition in music, albeit, I often prefer a softer, spacier sort, despite my love for Lark's Tongues.  I will say I do still prefer your "A Filetta “ offering.  
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Originally posted by jamesbaldwin jamesbaldwin wrote:

Try turning up the volume and listening. Be honest: did you make it to the end of the song?
 

It isn't that tough really. Tongue (But then I'm a tough cookie when it comes to strange sounds.)


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