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Gonna catch some heat for this but "A Pillow of Winds" on Pink Floyd's Meddle.  Most are going to pick Seamus.  It's a fun song.  I even named my dog Seamus! 
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Originally posted by tdfloyd tdfloyd wrote:

Gonna catch some heat for this but "A Pillow of Winds" on Pink Floyd's Meddle.  Most are going to pick Seamus.  It's a fun song.  I even named my dog Seamus! 

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For me, the biggest example of "a good album with one bad song" that comes immediately to my mind is Pascal Languirand's "Minos."

"Dans le Vent..." should never have been put on that record.


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I like Camel's I Can See Your House from Here album, but "Remote Romance" gives me the hump. Confused
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Porcupine Tree Deadwing is my favorite PT album, but Shallow.... no thanks (the song isn't that bad, but the way it was composed was really poor imo)
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Originally posted by Steve Wyzard Steve Wyzard wrote:

Genesis: The Lamb lies down on Broadway - Offending song = "The Waiting Room"

Just a comment on this one to illustrate the large degree of subjectivity in all these considerations:
I find about half of the album being a big step towards Pop Rock but this song, even surely something new for Genesis, exiting and further development of the band's serious Prog. - While, as I see it, about half of the album is bad.


Edited by David_D - December 05 2021 at 05:52
                      quality over quantity, and all kind of PopcoRn almost beyond
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Although Kate Bush has been mentioned twice with songs I have no problem with whatsoever, I haven't found the in my ear most obvious example for this thread, which is The Big Sky on the otherwise fabulous Hounds of Love. 
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I would include "Don't Kill the Whale" from "Tormato," but the song has since become a live favorite of mine.  

However, when Tormato first came out, my friends and I used to skip that song immediately. 
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It would completely exclude "Genesis Ch. 1 V. 32" from the album I Robot.
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Originally posted by Argentinfonico Argentinfonico wrote:

It would completely exclude "Genesis Ch. 1 V. 32" from the album I Robot.

I'm a huge fan of that album, and have no problem with the closing song, which, to me, always seemed to "sum everything up" without actually using words.

If anything on that album had to be excluded, I would immediately pick "Total Eclipse". While giving Andrew Powell three minutes to channel his inner-Ligeti, there's nothing specifically about it that seems to tie-in with the rest of the album's concept. In other words, this track could have been included on any other Project album without it affecting anything. Which is not to say I don't like it.
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Originally posted by Steve Wyzard Steve Wyzard wrote:

Originally posted by Argentinfonico Argentinfonico wrote:

It would completely exclude "Genesis Ch. 1 V. 32" from the album I Robot.

I'm a huge fan of that album, and have no problem with the closing song, which, to me, always seemed to "sum everything up" without actually using words.

If anything on that album had to be excluded, I would immediately pick "Total Eclipse". While giving Andrew Powell three minutes to channel his inner-Ligeti, there's nothing specifically about it that seems to tie-in with the rest of the album's concept. In other words, this track could have been included on any other Project album without it affecting anything. Which is not to say I don't like it.

Total Eclipse doesn't convince me much either, but somehow it can fit in. I love that album too, I've listened to it dozens and dozens of times. My favourite part consists of the first 6 tracks, then I'm not so fond of the rest. "Some Other Time" really gets me emotional.
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Originally posted by Argentinfonico Argentinfonico wrote:

It would completely exclude "Genesis Ch. 1 V. 32" from the album I Robot.
 
No way!! That's one of my favourite tracks from the album. Have you ever looked up Genesis Ch. 1 V. 32 in the Bible?
 
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Possibly controversial opinion but:

Opeth - Burden. I love Watershed, but Burden is always the one song that's generally a chore for me to get through. The first half is good, but the solo in the second half is way too droning and meandering - especially when Mikael and Fredrik play the same harmonized riff with each other for what feels like a solid 2-3 minutes. Watershed's one of my favorite Opeth albums, but that song was always the one blemish on it for me Unhappy 


Edited by Necrotica - December 01 2021 at 03:49
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Originally posted by I prophesy disaster I prophesy disaster wrote:

Originally posted by Argentinfonico Argentinfonico wrote:

<font face=" sans, Arial, sans-serif">It would completely exclude "Genesis Ch. 1 V. 32" from the album I Robot.

 
No way!! That's one of my favourite tracks from the album. Have you ever looked up <span style="font-family: sans, Arial, sans-serif;">Genesis Ch. 1 V. 32 in the Bible?</span>
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Originally posted by Argentinfonico Argentinfonico wrote:

Originally posted by I prophesy disaster I prophesy disaster wrote:

Originally posted by Argentinfonico Argentinfonico wrote:

It would completely exclude "Genesis Ch. 1 V. 32" from the album I Robot.

 
No way!! That's one of my favourite tracks from the album. Have you ever looked up Genesis Ch. 1 V. 32 in the Bible?

Yes, I did. I'm sorry man
 
Ok, so you get why it is such a brilliantly appropriate title for the track on the album?
 



Edited by I prophesy disaster - December 01 2021 at 08:11
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I admit I struggle with "moonchild" but I've learned to just see it as something to just kind of tune out to or relax to rather than be actively angry with it. I admit it's possible there is some kind of purpose or point to it but I haven't figured out what it is yet. I also don't hate it though. The first two minutes are fine and even for a bit after that but I think if it was a bit more composed and went into a different direction it could have been more interesting. 

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"Moonchild" is definitely an album track and needs to be listened to within the context of the rest of the album. Zoning out to the extended improvised percussion section adds to the impact when the title track storms in. The title track loses a little of its impact for me without the "Moonchild" lead in. Still it would have been nice in my opinion to include an edit of the first (vocal) section on an expanded edition of the album but this might fly in the face of all that the album (and prog) stands for.
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Originally posted by tdfloyd tdfloyd wrote:

Gonna catch some heat for this but "A Pillow of Winds" on Pink Floyd's Meddle.  Most are going to pick Seamus.  It's a fun song.  I even named my dog Seamus! 

Here's my opinion to warm your hands by.

I really like "A Pillow of Winds" as I like the rest of the album except for, yes, "Seamus".

I can excuse it up to a point, especially on vinyl where it is easy to just skip or serve as a signal to get ready to turn the album over and bask in the glory that is "Echoes".

On CD it's a little more intrusive but I can live with it on an album that I consider to be overall one of the best ever produced.
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A Pillow of Winds is my favorite song after Echoes on that album LOL

Seriously though, I think that song is criminally underrated as far as Floyd ballads go. Absolutely beautiful, and I love the calming atmosphere 
Take me down, to the underground
Won't you take me down, to the underground
Why oh why, there is no light
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Originally posted by Necrotica Necrotica wrote:

... I think that song is criminally underrated as far as Floyd ballads go. Absolutely beautiful, and I love the calming atmosphere 

I totally agree. It is Roger Waters putting his soft side on full display without a hint of his trademark cynicism. 

Perhaps there are those who might feel it is out of place after the aural assault of "One of These Days". It certainly is the calm after the storm.


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Originally posted by Hugh Manatee Hugh Manatee wrote:

Originally posted by Necrotica Necrotica wrote:

... I think that song is criminally underrated as far as Floyd ballads go. Absolutely beautiful, and I love the calming atmosphere 

I totally agree. It is Roger Waters putting his soft side on full display without a hint of his trademark cynicism. 

Perhaps there are those who might feel it is out of place after the aural assault of "One of These Days". It certainly is the calm after the storm.

As far as i know Waters was the co-writer. It's credited Gimour/Waters. 
I always thought it's a Gilmour song, he sang on it after all. 
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