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    Posted: October 02 2021 at 10:08
Gazeuse! Unravelling Gong's complicated discography of 57 varieties of album turned out to be almost as tricky as walking the high-wire at a Continental Circus. Gong have been in existence for over half a century now, so I thought it About Time we paid Tribute to a great band and Rejoiced together in their wonderful music. Gong breezed in like a Shamal with their debut album Magick Brother in 1970, but their real Breakthrough came three years later with the acclaimed Radio Gnome Invisible Trilogy. Gong began as a band led by Aussie Daevid Allen, but they then had a Second Wind in the mid-1970's when Pierre Moerlen branched off to form his own jazzy version of Gong. A later third version of the band - known as Mother Gong - emerged in the late-70's, led by Wild Child Gilli Smyth. I don't want to create A Storm in a Teapot, but personally speaking, I wouldn't give a Flying Teapot for any of Mother Gong's albums, although I realise they have a strong following here at PA. Anyway, to cut a long story short, my favourite Gong album by far is Downwind  - a precious album to treasure like an Angel's Egg - and I'll now Leave It Open for You to choose your favourite Gong album. Smile

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3 stars 1971: Daevid Allen's Gong - Camembert Electrique - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLikNHjJ_cxzCPwOsH5kkDBkJzDVxf5lHa
4 stars 1972: Daevid Allen's Gong - Continental Circus (soundtrack) - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLikNHjJ_cxzDmGde7hOFRW315yc6rLOMM
4 stars 1973: Daevid Allen's Gong - Live at the Bataclan - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLikNHjJ_cxzAQ_ArLxqTzKrsFluPVIl4z
4 stars 1974: Daevid Allen's Gong - Live at Sheffield - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLikNHjJ_cxzA-OaGx0F5F_t46dq71oRMh
4 stars 1975: Daevid Allen's Gong - Live in Sherwood Forest - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLikNHjJ_cxzA1W1xYb31oFAcc1tIjrdmF
4 stars 1977: Daevid Allen's Gong - Gong Live, Etc - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLikNHjJ_cxzDurkqIqqbu0GC6M_EkjW8i
4 stars 1979: Pierre Moerlen's Gong - Time is the Key - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLikNHjJ_cxzDKyY8Tj8kbtO3YxsJsPhjR
4 stars 1981: Pierre Moerlen's Gong - Leave It Open - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLikNHjJ_cxzBNk-N3NgZmKDlgg--pOnJt
4 stars 1988: Pierre Moerlen's Gong - Full Circle Live - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLikNHjJ_cxzBzvSkHD6G6e9sB1ZPrzqZi
3 stars 1989: Mother Gong & Daevid Allen - The Owl and the Tree - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLikNHjJ_cxzAL1lk9yo7Ors_FzStGDBru
3 stars 1990: Daevid Allen's Gong - Access All Areas - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLikNHjJ_cxzCSNtBDb_QyH7FXPsQhCH3W
3 stars 1993: Mother Gong - She Made the World Magenta - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLikNHjJ_cxzBveJKRmYMEiwHebztPECm_
3 stars 1995: Daevid Allen's Gong - The Peel Sessions 1971/74 - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLikNHjJ_cxzDve5EqZopWjRN6xkNk5mQw
4 stars 1995: Daevid Allen's Gong - 25th Birthday Party, The Forum, London - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLikNHjJ_cxzD3NyonOAlKX7mw-aSLqiS8
4 stars 1995: Gongzilla - Suffer - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NEeqz9tYuBw
3 stars 1998: Mother Gong - The Best of Mother Gong - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLikNHjJ_cxzAlvopTk5gUKKpwZ3yDjZ9E
4 stars 2000: Daevid Allen's Gong - Zero to Infinity - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLikNHjJ_cxzA1FjocEST5bajlpDqr717m
4 stars 2000: Daevid Allen's Gong - Live to Infinitea - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLikNHjJ_cxzDB9QH-WEgZ6XzM5uueCG18
3 stars 2000: Daevid Allen's Gong - High Above the Subterranea Club - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLikNHjJ_cxzC_CC5nlAh5Ii9dD9o01a3v
4 stars 2003: Gong - The World of Daevid Allen & Gong, Vol. 1 - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLikNHjJ_cxzCbDB0MDnW3iSCxJZGlJIq6
4 stars 2003: Gong - The World of Daevid Allen & Gong, Vol. 2 - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLikNHjJ_cxzBP3ewL2klIa5mwSmM2rSmJ
4 stars 2003: Gong - The World of Daevid Allen & Gong, Vol. 3 - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLikNHjJ_cxzABxi58AIvRr2pjiSxXqqYw
3 stars 2004: Daevid Allen's Gong - Magick Invocations. Vol. 1 - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLikNHjJ_cxzCmPThqF_L6167WLAwk1FAd
3 stars 2004: Daevid Allen's Gong - Magick Invocations, Vol. 2 - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLikNHjJ_cxzBV5EbBogrMzYGjfVqVPzw2
3 stars 2005: Mother Gong - Glastonbury Festival 1979-1981 - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLikNHjJ_cxzA14vnBGVYHLb7-Cm5zxQ0u
4 stars 2013: Daevid Allen's Gong - A Storm in a Teapot -  https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLikNHjJ_cxzBMED_qzmjcEGeX53toqqa1
 
 
 


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Hard to pick a favorite.

Camembert Eletrique - The amazing Pip Pyle on drums. And the album cover art by Daevid is "strong and streaming mate!".

All trilogy releases are good, but You is a psychedelic masterpiece.

And of course Allan Holdsworth's amazing guitar makes Gazeuse! a killer.
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Shamal, baby. And thank you, Nick Mason!
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If I had to pick one, it would You, but I do like quite a few of their albums from the different periods of the band. If I had to rank them, it would roughly go like this:

1. You
2. Rejoice! I'm Dead!
3. The Universe Also Collapses
4. Expresso II
5. Gazeuse!
6. Time is the Key
7. Continental Circus
8. Zero to Infinity
9. Downwind
10. Shamal
11. I See You
12. Flying Teapot
13. Acid Motherhood
14. 2032
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YOU should figure what my favourite is just by this message.

I love the whole Radio Gnome Invisible trilogy, but You is my favourite followed by Angel's Egg and then Flying Teapot.  Bonus points to Flying Teapot for the Bertrand Russell reference which appeals to my rational scepticism generally -- the burden of proof falls on those making unfalsifiable claims, not to those being told to disprove an assertion.

Originally posted by Bertrand Russell Bertrand Russell wrote:

Many orthodox people speak as though it were the business of sceptics to disprove received dogmas rather than of dogmatists to prove them. This is, of course, a mistake. If I were to suggest that between the Earth and Mars there is a china teapot revolving about the sun in an elliptical orbit, nobody would be able to disprove my assertion provided I were careful to add that the teapot is too small to be revealed even by our most powerful telescopes. But if I were to go on to say that, since my assertion cannot be disproved, it is intolerable presumption on the part of human reason to doubt it, I should rightly be thought to be talking nonsense. If, however, the existence of such a teapot were affirmed in ancient books, taught as the sacred truth every Sunday, and instilled into the minds of children at school, hesitation to believe in its existence would become a mark of eccentricity and entitle the doubter to the attentions of the psychiatrist in an enlightened age or of the Inquisitor in an earlier time.

Shamal is another favourite, well I like the three that followed You and I like the debut.  

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Camembert electrique, Flying Teapot, Angels egg and You all share first place. After that, Planet Gong with Here & Now floating Anarchy, Mother Gong Robot Women trilogy, Shamal and 2032 was a fantastic comeback with a great live show. But pretty much anything touched by Daevid Allen, Gilly Smyth and the wider Gong family is Magick! 

Also the virtually unknown but mind-blowing lp by Dashiell Hedayat 'Obsolete' from 1969 which is basically Gong backing this French musician/ author/ poet and considered a 'lost' Gong lp..

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Originally posted by Cosmiclawnmower Cosmiclawnmower wrote:

Camembert electrique, Flying Teapot, Angels egg and You all share first place. After that, Planet Gong with Here & Now floating Anarchy, Mother Gong Robot Women trilogy, Shamal and 2032 was a fantastic comeback with a great live show. But pretty much anything touched by Daevid Allen, Gilly Smyth and the wider Gong family is Magick!


Gong, I'll take everything from Continental Circus until Expresso2 , but clearly the RGI tetralogy is the highpoint. I'm not that big on the side-project and satellites.
The best post-70's is 0 to Infinity and I don't appreciate 2032




Originally posted by Cosmiclawnmower Cosmiclawnmower wrote:

Also the virtually unknown but mind-blowing lp by Dashiell Hedayat 'Obsolete' from 1969 which is basically Gong backing this French musician/ author/ poet and considered a 'lost' Gong lp..


Obsolete is from 71, but Dashiel's first album (released under Melmoth) called Devanture Des Ivresses was released in 69 and it is just as good, if only a very different beast.


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Originally posted by Sean Trane Sean Trane wrote:


Originally posted by Cosmiclawnmower Cosmiclawnmower wrote:

Also the virtually unknown but mind-blowing lp by Dashiell Hedayat 'Obsolete' from 1969 which is basically Gong backing this French musician/ author/ poet and considered a 'lost' Gong lp..


Obsolete is from 71, but Dashiel's first album (released under Melmoth) called Devanture Des Ivresses was released in 69 and it is just as good, if only a very different beast.


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Sorry, composed in 1969, recorded 1971. Haven't heard his other lp but will try and track it down, thanks for the tipThumbs Up

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There's also Gongzilla by the way.
Shamal and Gazeuse are best for me, but I love much of both the Daevid Allen and Pierre Moerlen version of the band. Downwind is an excellent album indeed; for me Pierre pretty much turns everything to gold on which he plays. I prefer live versions of most material on the trilogy and You.


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There's a lot more of Gong for me to explore, but for all the albums through Downwind, favorites are the consecutive albums Angel's Egg, You, Shamal, and Gazeuse / Expresso I

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Originally posted by Lewian Lewian wrote:

There's also Gongzilla by the way.
Shamal and Gazeuse are best for me, but I love much of both the Daevid Allen and Pierre Moerlen version of the band. Downwind is an excellent album indeed; for me Pierre pretty much turns everything to gold on which he plays. I prefer live versions of most material on the trilogy and You.
I've never heard of the Gongzilla album. It's hard for me to pick a favourite by Daevid Allen's Gong, as the only 5-star golden Gong album for me is "Downwind" by Pierre Moerlen's Gong. Smile
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There is also this Gong side project. Instrumental, similar to Pierre Moerlen's Gong. Have recorded the album Decadence.



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A Golden Gong for Daevid Allen's third solo album, which I heard for the first time today. Thumbs Up

4 stars 1977: Daevid Allen - Now is the Happiest Time of Your Life - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mfzHH9Ab83_eJFHQc_jqWNiIOj33nJZuQ

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I guess you've been digging quite a lot to refresh this old thread, Paul, while yesterday I listened to Shamal, 
my definitely favourite Gong album which I enjoy very much, beginning with the artwork. Tongue
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Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:


I guess you've been digging quite a lot to refresh this old thread, Paul, while yesterday I listened to Shamal, 
my definitely favourite Gong album which I enjoy very much, beginning with the artwork. Tongue
My Canterbury Scene blog led me here, where Daevid Allen is the first artist featured there, so I have a long way to go before I eventually reach Zyma - a German Canterbury Scene band.  Smile


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Anyway, looks very good, while I have to admit that the early Gong, even having for me very enjoyable moments, 
also is a bit too silly. Smile
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Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:


Anyway, looks very good, while I have to admit that the early Gong, even having for me very enjoyable moments, 
also is a bit too silly. Smile
Daevid Allen takes silliness one step further on some of his solo albums, but when you have Gong album titles such as "The Flying Teapot" and Camembert Electric", then you can expect a bit of silliness along the way. Smile
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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Gazeuse! Unravelling Gong's complicated discography of 57 varieties of album turned out to be almost as tricky as walking the high-wire at a Continental Circus. Gong have been in existence for over half a century now, so I thought it About Time we paid Tribute to a great band and Rejoiced together in their wonderful music. Gong breezed in like a Shamal with their debut album Magick Brother in 1970, but their real Breakthrough came three years later with the acclaimed Radio Gnome Invisible Trilogy. Gong began as a band led by Aussie Daevid Allen, but they then had a Second Wind in the mid-1970's when Pierre Moerlen branched off to form his own jazzy version of Gong. A later third version of the band - known as Mother Gong - emerged in the late-70's, led by Wild Child Gilli Smyth. I don't want to create A Storm in a Teapot, but personally speaking, I wouldn't give a Flying Teapot for any of Mother Gong's albums, although I realise they have a strong following here at PA. Anyway, to cut a long story short, my favourite Gong album by far is Downwind  - a precious album to treasure like an Angel's Egg - and I'll now Leave It Open for You to choose your favourite Gong album. Smile

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3 stars 1971: Daevid Allen's Gong - Camembert Electrique - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLikNHjJ_cxzCPwOsH5kkDBkJzDVxf5lHa
4 stars 1972: Daevid Allen's Gong - Continental Circus (soundtrack) - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLikNHjJ_cxzDmGde7hOFRW315yc6rLOMM
4 stars 1973: Daevid Allen's Gong - Live at the Bataclan - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLikNHjJ_cxzAQ_ArLxqTzKrsFluPVIl4z
4 stars 1974: Daevid Allen's Gong - Live at Sheffield - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLikNHjJ_cxzA-OaGx0F5F_t46dq71oRMh
4 stars 1975: Daevid Allen's Gong - Live in Sherwood Forest - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLikNHjJ_cxzA1W1xYb31oFAcc1tIjrdmF
4 stars 1977: Daevid Allen's Gong - Gong Live, Etc - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLikNHjJ_cxzDurkqIqqbu0GC6M_EkjW8i
4 stars 1979: Pierre Moerlen's Gong - Time is the Key - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLikNHjJ_cxzDKyY8Tj8kbtO3YxsJsPhjR
4 stars 1981: Pierre Moerlen's Gong - Leave It Open - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLikNHjJ_cxzBNk-N3NgZmKDlgg--pOnJt
4 stars 1988: Pierre Moerlen's Gong - Full Circle Live - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLikNHjJ_cxzBzvSkHD6G6e9sB1ZPrzqZi
3 stars 1989: Mother Gong & Daevid Allen - The Owl and the Tree - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLikNHjJ_cxzAL1lk9yo7Ors_FzStGDBru
3 stars 1990: Daevid Allen's Gong - Access All Areas - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLikNHjJ_cxzCSNtBDb_QyH7FXPsQhCH3W
3 stars 1993: Mother Gong - She Made the World Magenta - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLikNHjJ_cxzBveJKRmYMEiwHebztPECm_
3 stars 1995: Daevid Allen's Gong - The Peel Sessions 1971/74 - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLikNHjJ_cxzDve5EqZopWjRN6xkNk5mQw
4 stars 1995: Daevid Allen's Gong - 25th Birthday Party, The Forum, London - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLikNHjJ_cxzD3NyonOAlKX7mw-aSLqiS8
3 stars 1998: Mother Gong - The Best of Mother Gong - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLikNHjJ_cxzAlvopTk5gUKKpwZ3yDjZ9E
4 stars 2000: Daevid Allen's Gong - Zero to Infinity - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLikNHjJ_cxzA1FjocEST5bajlpDqr717m
4 stars 2000: Daevid Allen's Gong - Live to Infinitea - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLikNHjJ_cxzDB9QH-WEgZ6XzM5uueCG18
3 stars 2000: Daevid Allen's Gong - High Above the Subterranea Club - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLikNHjJ_cxzC_CC5nlAh5Ii9dD9o01a3v
4 stars 2003: Gong - The World of Daevid Allen & Gong, Vol. 1 - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLikNHjJ_cxzCbDB0MDnW3iSCxJZGlJIq6
4 stars 2003: Gong - The World of Daevid Allen & Gong, Vol. 2 - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLikNHjJ_cxzBP3ewL2klIa5mwSmM2rSmJ
4 stars 2003: Gong - The World of Daevid Allen & Gong, Vol. 3 - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLikNHjJ_cxzABxi58AIvRr2pjiSxXqqYw
3 stars 2004: Daevid Allen's Gong - Magick Invocations. Vol. 1 - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLikNHjJ_cxzCmPThqF_L6167WLAwk1FAd
3 stars 2004: Daevid Allen's Gong - Magick Invocations, Vol. 2 - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLikNHjJ_cxzBV5EbBogrMzYGjfVqVPzw2
3 stars 2005: Mother Gong - Glastonbury Festival 1979-1981 - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLikNHjJ_cxzA14vnBGVYHLb7-Cm5zxQ0u

you left out "Robot Woman 3" from 1986 by Mother Gong. it is not a good album though; it came out at a time when a lot of artists, including Mother Gong, experimented with drum computers (yuk). luckily that fad came to an end quickly. their 1979 album "Fairy Tales" is actually my favorite prog album of all times; it is absolutely brilliant


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Hi,

I don't know if they were released as a CD or not, but there were a series of "conversations" with Daevid that were recorded and sold on their website. They also had the GONG story in a funny sort of way.

Other things, not listed, but not sure they were recorded, was Gilly with a band in the SF Prog Festival in 1999, and they were from SF and played a sort of hybrid Celtic/Folk thing ... they were actually interesting, but I'm not sure that she just did it ad-lib, reading from pages and pages of computer paper folded up as a stack that never ended. It might have been just another "beat poet" free form thing that she liked to do, although not much of it was ever recorded.

Johnny, at GAS, if he's still around, would know and be able to tell you what is missing in this list.
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