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Drama vs Peter Gabriel III (Melt) |
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lazland ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: October 28 2008 Location: Wales Status: Online Points: 13812 |
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Melt is one of the finest albums ever made, a work which even after 40 years is still played regularly and holds a very special place in my collection. It was just about the perfect fusion of post punk rock, progressive rock, electronic rock, experimentation, and the most nailed on political statements ever put to music. About as perfect an album as it is possible to be released. Full of emotion and absolutely biting in its execution.
Drama, by contrast, is absolutely none of the above. About as dull as it gets. Sorry…….
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suitkees ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: July 19 2020 Location: France Status: Offline Points: 9050 |
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^ It is; I completely agree with this. But this is also the downside of this kind of binary polls: we have to chose between two great albums (in my perspective) and then argument why we prefer one over the other. Personally I have much pleasure listening to both. On the other hand, we also discover that some just don't like real prog...
And this is an admin... Maybe, we all should undergo a prog affinity test to see if we are worthwhile members of PA.... ![]() PS: I might not pass the test myself, BTW... Edited by suitkees - October 02 2021 at 11:22 |
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The Dark Elf ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() VIP Member Joined: February 01 2011 Location: Michigan Status: Offline Points: 13249 |
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Paul, you're missing out on one of the great albums of the 1980s. From the song "The Intruder" with the sinister Peter Lorre whistle (from the movie "M", where Lorre is a whistling serial killer) all the way to the anti-apartheid anthem "Biko'' it is a splendid progressive concept album featuring folks like Robert Fripp, Kate Bush, Phil Collins and Tony Levin.
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Logan ![]() Forum & Site Admin Group ![]() ![]() Site Admin Joined: April 05 2006 Location: Vancouver, BC Status: Offline Points: 37759 |
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I would have said, "Not even Games Without Frontiers?" That is one of my very favourite songs that has been an "in regular rotation" staple of classic rock radio here. I'm glad Peter Gabriel moved on from Genesis into his "solo" career. I hugely prefer Melt. I don't like the classic opening track on Drama, "Machine Messiah", and it doesn't improve for me as the album moves on. It's due to albums such as this that I don't think of myself as a Prog fan. I tried to listen through it again, but it is dreadful to these ears.
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chopper ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: July 13 2005 Location: Essex, UK Status: Offline Points: 20035 |
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Not even Biko? It's very close call for me but I'd probably go for PG.
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TerLJack ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: May 18 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 1125 |
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Drama is great, but Melt is even greater.
I also think "Family Snapshot," "Biko," and "Intruder" stand taller lyrically than anything on Drama.
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HeyItsJustJP ![]() Forum Groupie ![]() ![]() Joined: August 09 2021 Location: Orlando, FL Status: Offline Points: 67 |
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Enjoy both, but Melt is just on a totally different level for me.
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Earl of Mar ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: May 13 2020 Location: UK Status: Offline Points: 1214 |
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I dont like Gabriel's workmafter the second album very much. Melt except for a few tracks is not a favourite and I was disappointed after what I thought were two fine, interesting, varied albums.
So its Drama for me. |
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Artik ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: December 22 2020 Location: Poland Status: Offline Points: 446 |
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Sure it's Drama!
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maryes ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: August 16 2009 Location: rio de janeiro Status: Offline Points: 990 |
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I agree |
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Frenetic Zetetic ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: December 09 2017 Location: Now Status: Offline Points: 9233 |
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I have chunks of DRAMA songs in my head, daily, without consciously trying lol.
DAYLIGHT; I COULD NEVER LET YOU GO; AND YOU; ALWAYS LET THE FEELING SHOW!!! Drama.
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cstack3 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() VIP Member Joined: July 20 2009 Location: Tucson, AZ USA Status: Offline Points: 7432 |
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"Melt," if only for the track "Biko."
I don't know "Drama" very well, and the Buggles era of Yes never interested me much.
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Sacro_Porgo ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: July 15 2019 Location: Cygnus Status: Offline Points: 2062 |
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I do think this is another one of those polls that sets up the divide between "prog" and "progressive" quite nicely.
Melt is a pretty obviously progressive album, even if only for introducing the world to the drum sound of the 80s (which Phil subsequently took directly over to Face Value and made it world famous). That said, it doesn't retain much of the "prog" style that much of the music on this site is based in. No 20 minute suites, or even 10 minute epics. The closest you get is a multi-section story song "Family Snapshot" and a seven minute slow build "Biko." This album is all about new sounds, new production techniques, unusual song ideas, atmospherics and moods. The epitome of "art rock" if you ask me. Drama on the other hand is pretty obviously a "prog" album. While it does contain elements that are pushing music forward (thank you The Buggles), it centers mainly on a harder edged prog style for most of the album that isn't terribly far off from the music Yes had already been making throughout the 70s, if a little meaner. You do get a 10 minute epic in "Machine Messiah," and another lengthy proggy gem in "Into The Lens."
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twosteves ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: May 01 2007 Location: NYC/Rhinebeck Status: Offline Points: 4095 |
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hard choice --as PG is more of an artistic creative record and Drama is easy to listen to.
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I would like to vote for Drama, but I don't know Gabriel's album, so I really can't. However, for what little I checked out some time ago, Melt was the album that interested me the most from Grabriel solo, besides the live album from around the same time.
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![]() Drama is one of my favorite Yes albums. ![]() |
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The Dark Elf ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() VIP Member Joined: February 01 2011 Location: Michigan Status: Offline Points: 13249 |
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PGIII and it's not even vaguely close. It's a great album. Drama simply is not. It's not even a good Yes album.
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suitkees ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: July 19 2020 Location: France Status: Offline Points: 9050 |
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Gabriel's album is really great and I listen to it regularly with much pleasure, but Drama is just something special, very special, in my book.
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Catcher10 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() VIP Member Joined: December 23 2009 Location: Emerald City Status: Offline Points: 17999 |
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Melt (III) by a lot......Drama has a boring feel to it.
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Drama, but not by much.
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