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Psychedelic Paul ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: September 16 2019 Location: Nottingham, U.K Status: Offline Points: 43653 |
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I'm sure Monica Lewinsky was a great admirer of his "Saxuality".
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Frenetic Zetetic ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: December 09 2017 Location: Now Status: Offline Points: 9233 |
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Are the progressives considered progressive? What time signature is their political stance in, again?
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Logan ![]() Forum & Site Admin Group ![]() ![]() Site Admin Joined: April 05 2006 Location: Vancouver, BC Status: Online Points: 37425 |
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^^^ I could make a very rude comment regarding Clinton, Lewinsky and Cream, but like cream, I shall rise above it. ;)
That poor segue,aside, let’s please focus on Cream and related music issues. I tend to enjoy quite a bit of off-topiconess, but I do think we’ve moved in a questionable direction. Let’s try to leave the political stuff out of this thread. |
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SteveG ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: April 11 2014 Location: Kyiv In Spirit Status: Offline Points: 20617 |
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Did Cream ever do a song in 5/8 time? If they did, then they're prog. (According to my neighbor who still lives with his mom.)
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Argo2112 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: June 20 2017 Location: New Jersey Status: Offline Points: 4462 |
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I like Cream but as most people he have already stated, they are not prog.
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Frenetic Zetetic ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: December 09 2017 Location: Now Status: Offline Points: 9233 |
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Guys it says various orchestral moments, that means it's prog and that's inarguable! /s
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"I am so prog, I listen to concept albums on shuffle." -KMac2021 |
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siLLy puPPy ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() PSIKE, JRF/Canterbury, P Metal, Eclectic Joined: October 05 2013 Location: SFcaUsA Status: Offline Points: 15347 |
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I think the problem we have around here is that many consider ALL psychedelic rock prog. Well that's just not the case. Cream was a wonderfully inventive band but they were more proto-metal than prog. Experimental is not prog. Innovative is not prog and even though i love me some Cream, there is nothing that makes them rise to the prog occasion like other proto-prog bands listed on this site. I'm still waiting for a true proto-prog band like Hard Meat to be evaluated!
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Logan ![]() Forum & Site Admin Group ![]() ![]() Site Admin Joined: April 05 2006 Location: Vancouver, BC Status: Online Points: 37425 |
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I thinK the answer is yes to the time signature (White Rooom?) and a general no to your neighbour about what constitutes Prog.
I’m guessing that you are not Steve’s neighbour, unless you disagree on the time signature assessment. While I would argue that Cream is not Prog, I would argue that it has a relation both in personnel (Jack Bruce and Ginger Baker are in PA, and I always thought of Clapton’s Layla as proggy) but also in terms of music approach. Edited by Logan - October 01 2021 at 11:29 |
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SteveG ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: April 11 2014 Location: Kyiv In Spirit Status: Offline Points: 20617 |
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^ I would go with Layla being prog. In fact, I use it as an example for people that have never heard songs by Yes, Genesis, etc.
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Psychedelic Paul ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: September 16 2019 Location: Nottingham, U.K Status: Offline Points: 43653 |
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^ I never knew Jack Bruce and Ginger Baker were on PA, so thanks for the heads-up.
![]() Maybe it's only A Question Of Time before Eric Clapton is added to PA too, but then again, maybe not.
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Frenetic Zetetic ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: December 09 2017 Location: Now Status: Offline Points: 9233 |
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The Allman Brothers were more progressive than Cream IMO.
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why would Eric Clapton be added? ![]() |
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You're probably right about that. |
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Logan ![]() Forum & Site Admin Group ![]() ![]() Site Admin Joined: April 05 2006 Location: Vancouver, BC Status: Online Points: 37425 |
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From memory and knowledge, it's only Eric (alias Derek) of Derek and the Dominos for "Layla" that would be readily considerable. That said, PA is not the ultimate Prog Rock "song" resource. Edited by Logan - October 01 2021 at 11:45 |
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SteveG ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: April 11 2014 Location: Kyiv In Spirit Status: Offline Points: 20617 |
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Edited by SteveG - October 01 2021 at 11:54 |
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Re Jack Bruce: Cream never did any songs like this; West, Bruce and Lang "Out into the Fields"
Edited by Easy Money - October 01 2021 at 14:56 |
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William Shatner!
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