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jamesbaldwin 
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 Posted: September 30 2021 at 17:35 |
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Very dilated atmospheric song (perhaps too much dilated), which is based on a whispered singing and on the electronic musical carpet that unleashes highly sought-after sounds. It seems like a dream, a vision. Music close to the ambient, if it weren't for the seemingly relaxing sound. |
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Amos Goldberg (professor of Genocide Studies at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem): Yes, it's genocide. It's so difficult and painful to admit it, but we can no longer avoid this conclusion.
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Snicolette
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Posted: September 30 2021 at 17:41 |
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A reminder to any who've not yet let me know their choice of their selections to nominate. If you've only given us one and everyone else has responded, I will enter just your one selection into the poll. I will open the poll in the morning, PDT. List below of participants and their choices, or if as yet, unknown:
Greg: William Sheller “Hare Krishna” Cristi: Experimental
Quartet “Spre univers” Lorenzo: Claudio Rocchi “Volo
Magico N. 1” JD: Duncan Mackay “Jigaloda” (only brought one selection this time) progaardvark: Artús “Faust” Christian: .O.rang “Mind on Pleasure” snicolette: Charlie Cawood. "Flicker Out Of Being," ft Marjana Semkina Mike: The Mercury Tree “Disremembered” George: Onségen Ensemble “Think Neither Good Nor
Evil” someone_else: Alejandro Matos “El Infierno de
los Buenos” (only brought one selection this time) I prophesy disaster: Snakefinger
“The Picture Makers Vs. Children Of The Sea” Mirakaze: Louis De Mieulle “Discoteak” dr
wu23: Jonesy “Ricochet” Selected per precedence, for him, as the deadline to decide has passed. If no one has voted yet and he lets me know, I will change it. Kees: Frutería TFrutería Toñi “ traspié” oñi “ traspié” tigerfeet: Amorphous Androgynous “The world is full of
plankton” richardh: Francis Lickerish “Brides of the
Wind” Ronstein: Advent “Ramblin’ Sailor” SuperMetro: Mirage
“For Andy” (only brought one selection this time) moshkito: Roy Harper "Nineteen Forty-Eightish"
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Posted: September 30 2021 at 18:27 |
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My final nomination will be Onségen Ensemble - Think Neither Good Nor Evil.
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jamesbaldwin
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Posted: September 30 2021 at 18:32 |
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Thanks to Nickie for this list. Come on guys and girls, it's time for the final nomination! |
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Amos Goldberg (professor of Genocide Studies at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem): Yes, it's genocide. It's so difficult and painful to admit it, but we can no longer avoid this conclusion.
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tigerfeet
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Posted: September 30 2021 at 19:55 |
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Thanks for the comment Lorenzo. Snicolette, I do pick them as my final Nomination.  |
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I'm sorry, if you were right, I'd agree with you. Robin Williams.
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Snicolette
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Posted: September 30 2021 at 20:05 |
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Thank you, I will amend that in the morning, as I am away from my laptop now. Sorry I missed it as your selection!
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suitkees
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Posted: October 01 2021 at 05:23 |
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@Nickie: No, you didn't miss it: I nominate Frutería Toñi...
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Posted: October 01 2021 at 07:00 |
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I nominate Snakefinger - The Picture Makers Vs. Children Of The Sea. Thank you to TCat, Snicolette, progaardvark, and Lewian for your comments (I hope I didn't miss anyone). There didn't seem to be a clear preference for one track over the other, so my own preference as well as intuition came into play to help make my decision. |
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Posted: October 01 2021 at 07:30 |
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Hi,
This is my preferred choice, and the second part is a poem ... both of these have incredible lyrical moments and it is sad that some folks would rather listen to inane lyrics than something like this. From the JUGULA+ album. And if that is not enough, my other choice would be "Playing the Game Pts 1-5" on the album HEADQUARTERS ... a hard rocker that many folks here can not get their ears on! And with amazing lyrics ... now you know why RH did not want to tour with PF ... he wouldn't be able to do things like this on a show and show that his lyrics were better, and more important, than RW's. The fans would tomato his really quick, I'm sure. I would HAVE thrown those fans out of the arena very fast! They didn't come for music, they came for the big hit!
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Music is not just for listening ... it is for LIVING ... you got to feel it to know what's it about! Not being told!
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Snicolette
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Posted: October 01 2021 at 08:04 |
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In just under the wire and, as we've done before, I am going to enter the YT videos for him. We may or may not hear which he prefers, but as the second one is a "poem," I am going to enter "Nineteen Forty-Eightish," as his selection to nominate, unless I hear otherwise. |
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Snicolette
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Posted: October 01 2021 at 08:05 |
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ATTENTION: ENTRIES ARE NOW CLOSED FOR THE POLLS
I will be contacting the few who haven't indicated a preference, and hope to hear from them soon. I will notify when the poll opens for voting. This one is going to be a doozie!
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Snicolette
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Advised by Ronstein via Forum Message of his choice: Advent “Ramblin’ Sailor”
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Snicolette
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Posted: October 01 2021 at 08:35 |
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Please see my updated list of poll participants/entries. I believe only one person hasn't yet responded that has a good history of getting back to us.
If I missed anyone, my sincerest apologies and please do let me know. |
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Snicolette
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Posted: October 01 2021 at 11:31 |
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First thoughts on moshkito's entries:
Moshkito: Roy Harper “Nineteen
Forty-Eightish” In a prog-folk tradition,
the great Roy Harper brings us a trip through history beginning in modern times
and reaching back to the 1600s, the 1300’s and finally, to 1984(ish). The music has a march sense to it, with
Harper’s vocals being delivered in an anguished mode and Jimmy Page’s guitar
punctuating with wongly leads, in dark fashion.
This is a very dark look at humanity across the ages, similar to David
Cousins when he delves deep especially when the organ kicks in toward the end
and his voice drips with torment and grief for the state of humankind. The pace picks up a bit, with a very staccato
lead guitar at the fore. Very moving. Followed by Roy Harper “Bad Speech” A spoken-word piece, with some whistling and
background noises. More time traveling,
I believe, as this seems to be spoken by a very old soul, perhaps a reincarnated
one, perhaps many times over. Also despairing.
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Posted: October 02 2021 at 04:28 |
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So, I finally took a dive into the playlist and I must recognize that I do like prog rock, somehow...  First batch of comments on all suggestions: Logan: I'm already familiar with the great Lux Aeterna album by Sheller; prefer to hear this within the context of the album, but it is good to put it under the attention to those who don't know this album yet. Didn't know Perry Leopold at all (I never much explored prog folk territories...) and this is a wonderful song - great singing and guitar playing - makes me curious to hear the rest of the album. Cristi: With Bucium we continue in the folk vein, but with a more rock leaning. I am certain to have heard this one before (on the radio, in a film, here?). It's a kind of a perfect song: accessible, sonically rich, melodic. Perfect. Will check out their album. With Experimental Quartet we are in a more typical 70s ELP, or early Ange or Eloy style of prog. I'm not really fond of that guitar led (long) mid-section... Nice, but not original enough, to my ears... jamesbaldwin: And another one to add to my "to buy" list. Everything is so subtle but perfectly placed and paced here: the acoustic guitar, the piano, all the vocals... everything. From folk to rock to psych... Wow! JD: Duncan Mackay's Jigaloda sounds to me a bit like Ekseption by its classically grounded music but rocking interpretation. Nice to hear, but it also has a bit too much of a showing-off aspect to it... progaardvark: Yôkaï with Plutonia is a bit surprising (which is always a good thing!): We first enter into some kind of spaghetti Western just to get out of it as quickly as possible. Somehow, the track has a very familiar feel, but the instrumentation and some twist and turns make it into something quite intriguing. Have to listen to it again; I'm not completely conquered, but it is intriguing enough to want to listen to more of them. Then we get into the haunting Faust story by Artús. Is this ethnic zeul, or something? It is a bit trance inducing, but not really something I warm up for, and it is especially the vocals that put me off here. Lewian: Talking about trance... Don't think I ever heard of .O.rang. Mind on Pleasure as a more post-rock take on trance inducing music. This is more to my liking, thanks to the groove, the vocals and the sonics. Not entirely conquered, but definitely a good listen. TCat: A more jazzy entry by The Mercury Tree: Microtonal playing and singing until suddenly the post-rocky metally guitars kick in (I'm less fan of this kind of intrusions). Strange indeed, upon first listen, but also intriguing, reminding me of 80s (and beyond) KC and recent Sonar, but more going into jazz territory. Worth to explore further. I liked the Fovea Hex track you have presented before and then listened that album, and this one, if I remember well. It is again beautiful (but maybe a bit too subdued for a whole album...). mathman: Most of nowadays heavy prog, to my ears, serve us with an overdose of prog (and guitar sound) clichés. Didn't know Onségen Ensemble but they avoid this mostly. This is very good and rather original music with a slight cinematic touch. A pleasant listen and good discovery. Another one to explore further. Art Metal... poor bass, he's being mistreated. Impressive playing before we get into some soundscapy terrain. Nice, overall, but too much of a showcase piece to my ears. To be continued... (I think) |
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suite et fin... someone_else: Alejandro Matos with El Infierno de los Buenos. A long slow building piece. The singing is a bit of an acquired taste, but I guess I will get into it. It has a more "conventional" prog feel over it, but it is a very pleasant piece of music. It also has something imperfect over it which makes it actually more intriguing to my ears, some kind of fragility (as in the voice...). Fortunately, for me, all hell never really breaks loose (with possible prog metal clichés), but Matos chooses to keep it orchestral and melodic. On the long run maybe not very much development but it suits the piece. A great listen!
I prophesy disaster: Snakefinger bring us in a kind of rock opera stance with The Picture Makers Vs. Children of the Sea. A great underlying guitar riff, and some madness going on in the playing (makes me think of some of Adrian Belew's work). The first part is maybe a bit too raw overall, but it gets weirder and better after that. Nice! Daddy Cool has also something theatrical in this track, but clearly more anchored in the 70s and more jazzy; great playing (guitars and sax) going on. Nice too, but I prefer Snakefinger, I guess. Mirakaze: I've heard of the Rascal Reporters, but I'm not sure what I heard. Older material than this one, that's for sure. With Egos Explode we enter into some RIO-electronic restless frenzy. It's nice to hear, but I don't think this will keep my attention on the long run (an album long). Louis de Mieulle proposes a nice groovy track with some synth frivolities. Very tight playing, and overall quite a pleasant track. dr wu: With Ricochet we continue with the tight and groovy playing, but now with Mellotron! Nice rocking track, somehow very representative for its time. Odin is it in another way, with its Hammond very present. Another rather classic rocking track. Maybe a bit too "classic" for me... Lewian: Tristeza with their Halo heads and a guitar/synth dominated track, reminiscent of some of Fripp's playing and, again, Sonar. Very melodic and groovy. Nice moody track, without highs or lows, but great playing throughout. Tigerfeet: Amorphous Androgynous never really conquered my heart. This track is no exception: it is great sounding, and effect laden, but it somehow wears out very quickly. I could never really listen to an entire album of them, however great some individual songs may sound. I didn't know Assemble Head In Sunburst Sound before, but this sounds much more interesting to me actually: musically richer and more coherent, to my ears. richardh: Brides of the Wind by Francis Lickerish proposes a very classical piece, yes, very Enid like, dipped in a Mike Oldfield sauce. It is beautiful, but rather conventional and not very original to my ears. Ronstein: Discovering Advent here with a fun kind of Troubadour prog. Nice uplifting, very melodic and intricate playing and very symphonic in parts. Nice to discover although a whole album of this might become too much, since I find this track already a bit long. SuperMetro: I think I heard this album by Mirage when it came out, but it didn't impress me then. This is a nice track but it makes me too much think of that other band. This is not the camelish jazz-fusion that I prefer, it is all a bit too predictable. moshkito: Roy Harper with Jimmy Page and a great storytelling folk rock track with Nineteen Forty-Eightish. I like this one very much: great guitar playing (could we expect less?) and singing, synth backings. Quite a great song! Edited by suitkees - October 02 2021 at 06:52 |
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Posted: October 02 2021 at 08:06 |
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Thank you for your thoughts, Kees. I do tend toward the delicate end of the spectrum in my preferences, although I quite enjoy some of harder-edged music as well.
I am hoping we hear from dr wu23 today, so I can open the poll soon.
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OK folks, per a discussion in our members chat, I am going to fill in the blanks and open the poll for voting. Prior precedent has been to select the first option posted, if someone misses the deadline for deciding. If that changes pretty quickly, and no one has yet voted, I will switch if necessary.
This will make dr wu23's option Jonesy “Ricochet” POLL WILL BE OPEN AS SOON AS I UPDATE THE GRID
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Thanks...Jonesy -Ricochet is fine.....was unable to get to my laptop t he past day. |
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William Sheller “Hare Krishna”. It seems a symphonic poem worthy of Ottorino Respighi, in the first few minutes, then the very emphatic and solemn "Hare Krishna" choir arrives, highlighted by the percussion. At about 4 minutes, the electric guitar and the drums come in and with this rhythmic, martial and religious progressions at the same time, we move towards the end, in a rather rhetorical way, to be honest. Very pompous, worthy of a Hollywood's colossal.
Mirage "For Andy". Very relaxed ballad, I would say easy listening suitable for cocktail lounge, led by the flute and the electric guitar in the descriptive impressionistic pictorial style of the Camel. Nice, but not enough to get close to the podium.
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