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Originally posted by Easy Money Easy Money wrote:

Originally posted by siLLy puPPy siLLy puPPy wrote:

Originally posted by Easy Money Easy Money wrote:

^ "The aim of the archer may not always be straight, but it is always true"
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Projecting, dude! She's talking about the zillion other early psych bands like Velvet Underground that have been mentioned and have fuzzy connections to prog!
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Does that mean you need an exorcism? You seem to have lost your own voice! LOL

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Man With Hat Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 30 2021 at 21:51
Originally posted by Tapfret Tapfret wrote:

No. Not even if you had followed the band submission procedure.

LOL

exactly my thoughts 
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Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

^ Donald Trump?   Again, Trump had a minor influence on early progrock but not enough for a spot on a prog site.


This. I would say that Trump was the polar opposite of progressive.
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I like my Cream with Tea & Symphony. Smile

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote Logan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 01 2021 at 05:41
I really like Tea and Symphony.

Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

^ Donald Trump?   Again, Trump had a minor influence on early progrock but not enough for a spot on a prog site.
This. I would say that Trump was the polar opposite of progressive.

Progressive or not since not all Prog is truly progressive, if Pink Floyd is on this site with The Wall, then an argument could be made for him to also be here for Build That Wall!  Even if it was more like reinforce that fence.

"Tear down the wall...."

But I shouldn't prolong the Trump joke and keep the politics out, maybe by building a wall to contain it.

While I don't see Cream being added to the site, this was one of my favourite songs as a  teenager off one of my favourite albums.


By the way, I'll move this to General Music Discussions since the topic doesn't meet the Suggest New bands guidelines, and it has been discussed a number of times -- although those threads were auto locked.  


Edited by Logan - October 01 2021 at 06:03
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Having watched many of the superb concerts Barack Obama hosted in the East Room of the White House, I'd say he did more to promote music than any other US president, although he was more of a soul man than a prog rocker. Smile

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Icarium Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 01 2021 at 07:22
I would not have minded Cream in proto-prog but listening and feel what also Simon & Garfunkle sparks in my reaction boot, they make also my prog spider senses tingle, in the proto prog folk, related fassion, also early Cat Stevens from 1967 - 70 is proto worthy imo, lots of songs with non-standard structure.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote SteveG Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 01 2021 at 07:29
Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Having watched many of the superb concerts Barack Obama hosted in the East Room of the White House, I'd say he did more to promote music than any other US president, although he was more of a soul man than a prog rocker. Smile

I would think that Bill Clinton was more progressive, being a big fan of Floyd contributor Dick Parry.
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Jimmy Carter invited Cecil Taylor to perform on the White House lawn. Our only president into avant-garde jazz.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Cristi Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 01 2021 at 07:59
^ the off-topic-ness here is rather ridiculous. Geek
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^ I think that's Trump's fault.  You can tie cement blocks around his feet and drop him in the ocean near his casino in Atlantis and he would still somehow make an appearance in various unrelated threads.

By the way, as much as I love Clapton and every project he was in, Cream is a blues-rock band with no real ties to progressive music. 

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I think i know how to get Cream added here. Trump hates Cream! LOL

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Catcher10 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 01 2021 at 10:27
Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

^ the off-topic-ness here is rather ridiculous. Geek
PA is the only music site I know of that allows this ridiculousness. People still talking about Trump....sad. LOL
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Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

^ the off-topic-ness here is rather ridiculous. Geek
Sometimes the off topic is infinitely more interesting.
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let's see how long it will take for this thread to get closed.
Start your bets! Evil Smile


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Originally posted by Easy Money Easy Money wrote:

Jimmy Carter invited Cecil Taylor to perform on the White House lawn. Our only president into avant-garde jazz.
That makes sense. I once heard that Pres. Jimmy was closet pot smoker.
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If you go to the Cream wiki and search the term "prog", this is all that comes up:

"In 1968 came the band's third release, Wheels of Fire, which topped the American charts. The album was recorded in a spate of short sessions from July 1967 to June 1968.[citation needed] Still a relative novelty, the double album of two LP records was well-suited to extended solos. The Wheels of Fire studio recordings showcased the band moving away from the blues and more towards a semi-progressive rock style highlighted by odd time signatures and various orchestral instruments."

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Originally posted by Frenetic Zetetic Frenetic Zetetic wrote:

If you go to the Cream wiki and search the term "prog", this is all that comes up:

"In 1968 came the band's third release, Wheels of Fire, which topped the American charts. The album was recorded in a spate of short sessions from July 1967 to June 1968.[citation needed] Still a relative novelty, the double album of two LP records was well-suited to extended solos. The Wheels of Fire studio recordings showcased the band moving away from the blues and more towards a semi-progressive rock style highlighted by odd time signatures and various orchestral instruments."
What orchestral instruments? Confused This review makes them sound like the Moody Blues or Procol Harum! LOL
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Originally posted by TCat TCat wrote:

^ I think that's Trump's fault.  You can tie cement blocks around his feet and drop him in the ocean near his casino in Atlantis and he would still somehow make an appearance in various unrelated threads.

By the way, as much as I love Clapton and every project he was in, Cream is a blues-rock band with no real ties to progressive music. 


I would argue that there are “real” (thinking we’re risking moving into no true Scotsman-like fallacy territory) ties to progressive music, but as that claim would demand a burden of proof and i fear it would turn into a boring epistemological and ontological discussion where my cod philosopher piece would be woefully exposed. ;). I do like those nature of reality type discussions. I think there is a definite, real case to be made that ties Cream to progressive music, but that does not mean that I think it should be added.


Originally posted by siLLy puPPy siLLy puPPy wrote:

I think i know how to get Cream added here. Trump hates Cream! LOL


Tell that to Stormy Daniels.

And yes, I agree that we should drop the Trump talk.

Edited by Logan - October 01 2021 at 10:44
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Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

Originally posted by Frenetic Zetetic Frenetic Zetetic wrote:

If you go to the Cream wiki and search the term "prog", this is all that comes up:

"In 1968 came the band's third release, Wheels of Fire, which topped the American charts. The album was recorded in a spate of short sessions from July 1967 to June 1968.[citation needed] Still a relative novelty, the double album of two LP records was well-suited to extended solos. The Wheels of Fire studio recordings showcased the band moving away from the blues and more towards a semi-progressive rock style highlighted by odd time signatures and various orchestral instruments."
What orchestral instruments? Confused This review makes them sound like the Moody Blues or Procol Harum! LOL

Not for or against just posting what Wiki says!

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