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    Posted: September 30 2021 at 16:26
I think Cream should be added to the Psychedelic sub genre, just because Cream is pretty psychedelic. They were a pretty prevalent ‘60s Psych band, so yeah.
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Originally posted by Fan_of_Genesis Fan_of_Genesis wrote:

I think Cream should be added to the Psychedelic sub genre, just because Cream is pretty psychedelic. They were a pretty prevalent ‘60s Psych band, so yeah.

There was really nothing progressive about Cream. Psychedelia and blues-rock. Love Cream, but they weren't prog. Or proto-prog. I would say the Eric Clapton-related band that was more progressive would have been Blind Faith. 
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Nah... basically what The Dark Elf said. The psych elements aren't really enough to put them in the Archives, especially since most of their work is straightforward blues rock. Damn good band though!
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Cream should be added to coffee but not much else!

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Hi,

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Originally posted by Fan_of_Genesis Fan_of_Genesis wrote:

I think Cream should be added to the Psychedelic sub genre, just because Cream is pretty psychedelic. They were a pretty prevalent ‘60s Psych band, so yeah.

You've not presented a good argument for a psych band to be added to a prog database.   Cream certainly influenced what is called proto-prog, but that's about as far as it went.

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If you let in Cream, then you'd have to let in _____.
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^ Donald Trump?   Again, Trump had a minor influence on early progrock but not enough for a spot on a prog site.


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No. Not even if you had followed the band submission procedure.
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Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

^ Donald Trump?   Again, Trump had a minor influence on early progrock but not enough for a spot on a prog site.


It's no surprise that Cindy would bring up hollywood donald in a cream thread.

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Originally posted by Easy Money Easy Money wrote:

Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

^ Donald Trump?   Again, Trump had a minor influence on early progrock but not enough for a spot on a prog site.


It's no surprise that Cindy would bring up hollywood donald in a cream thread.


I'm politically agnostic but it doesn't appear that Cindy went there so why did others?

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Originally posted by omphaloskepsis omphaloskepsis wrote:

If you let in Cream, then you'd have to let in _____.

Sugar... 
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Then once we include Cream and Sugar, we'll have to include Salt-N-Pepa of course.

I used to think that Cream would be a worthy addition to Proto-Prog, and I hardly think it a ridiculous suggestion (we also have projects by Cream member in PA, Jack Bruce and Ginger Baker), but I also think that there are many more interesting and progressive groups with psych qualities from that time that could be considered before Cream.

I posted some of my earlier thoughts in this topic: http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=46247

I wouldn't be opposed myself to such a Proto-Prog addition from what I remember, but understand why others would.  And it has been discussed quite a few times.
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No not Cindy's doing, just my own nonsense.

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Projecting, dude! She's talking about the zillion other early psych bands like Velvet Underground that have been mentioned and have fuzzy connections to prog!

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Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

Originally posted by omphaloskepsis omphaloskepsis wrote:

If you let in Cream, then you'd have to let in _____.

Sugar... 
Ray


Then once we include Cream and Sugar, we'll have to include Salt-N-Pepa of course.

I used to think that Cream would be a worthy addition to Proto-Prog, and I hardly think it a ridiculous suggestion (we also have projects by Cream member in PA, Jack Bruce and Ginger Baker), but I also think that there are many more interesting and progressive groups with psych qualities from that time that could be considered before Cream.

I posted some of my earlier thoughts in this topic: http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=46247

I wouldn't be opposed myself to such a Proto-Prog addition from what I remember, but understand why others would.  And it has been discussed quite a few times.


I was shocked that Sugar Ray made it to Metal Music Archives. I had no idea their first album was actually metal! WHOAH

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Originally posted by omphaloskepsis omphaloskepsis wrote:

If you let in Cream, then you'd have to let in _____.
I agree. We gotta draw the line, or else we'll be including everyone.
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Originally posted by siLLy puPPy siLLy puPPy wrote:

Originally posted by Easy Money Easy Money wrote:

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Projecting, dude! She's talking about the zillion other early psych bands like Velvet Underground that have been mentioned and have fuzzy connections to prog!
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Originally posted by siLLy puPPy siLLy puPPy wrote:

Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

Originally posted by omphaloskepsis omphaloskepsis wrote:

If you let in Cream, then you'd have to let in _____.

Sugar... 
Ray


Then once we include Cream and Sugar, we'll have to include Salt-N-Pepa of course.

I used to think that Cream would be a worthy addition to Proto-Prog, and I hardly think it a ridiculous suggestion (we also have projects by Cream member in PA, Jack Bruce and Ginger Baker), but I also think that there are many more interesting and progressive groups with psych qualities from that time that could be considered before Cream.

I posted some of my earlier thoughts in this topic: http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=46247

I wouldn't be opposed myself to such a Proto-Prog addition from what I remember, but understand why others would.  And it has been discussed quite a few times.


I was shocked that Sugar Ray made it to Metal Music Archives. I had no idea their first album was actually metal! WHOAH

The first couple of albums I think, man, those were the days. ;)


All the more reason to keep out Cream if one's cuppa also needs a little Sugar ray stirred in, since the day that the words "Prog" and "Metal" are uttered in the same breath will be the day that Prog music is deemed officially dead. ;)  

Kidding, of course.  Love that Cream track, though.


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Yes, they should
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