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 JD wrote:

 omphaloskepsis wrote:

 suitkees wrote:

 omphaloskepsis wrote:

I have a Biology degree and an RN degree. I've worked with Scientific method for decades.
Oh, nice, the authority argument. But apparently your "scientific method" has its flaws...

 omphaloskepsis wrote:

You have all the data you need to suggest that Ivermectin works against Covid. If the Ivermectin sample was 800 people, I could lend some cred to your argument.  America's number of vaccinated falls far below 241 million. Using your Stork argument...Why should we believe in Vaccines?
You say it yourself: you have data to suggest... You are suggesting that the 241 million of inhabitants of Uttar Pradesh were part of a medical research group (sample). They weren't. You turn them into your statistics because it suits your argument, but it doesn't take into account other parameters at all. For example, Uttar Pradesh had also a major lockdown with rather important restrictions that probably also helped to prevent to spread the virus. The problem is only that it is so difficult to put into statistics, unless you would want to make believe that the lockdown measures in that state were responsible for the low number of cases beyond May. Why was it Invermectin and not the lockdown measures that kept the figures in Uttar Pradesh so low? Do you have a reasonable answer to that with your Biology degree and scientific methods? 

In my opinion, you are dragging yourself into a lure just because you want to believe in it, not because it has much to do with reality, science (scientific methods) or being the result of "critical thinking".

Yep, I've studied biology since 1990. So sue me. 
I say "SUGGEST" because that's basic scientific method. Every measurement in scientific method has a "plus or minus factor"...even if the the plus or minus factor is less than an atom wide. A scientific argument that is statistically 99.99% probable uses the verb- suggests in the description. That's the way it is.  By the way, I did not write the articles. Over 40 articles, last time I looked.  

In a debate or argument, it's easy to say, " Your wrong!" However, it's difficult to argue the opposite point. Instead of attacking the messenger (Me) why don't you make a valid argument disproving Ivermectin's effectiveness against Covid.  The Uttar Pradesh scientists and government claim that Ivermectin is the main factor. Compare Uttar Pradesh to Countries that suffered Covid breakouts and have had more Lockdowns. You'll find that those countries have a higher percentage of Covid than Uttar Pradesh.  

Bottom Line- Shouldn't the lowest rate of Covid in the World be worthy of America and the UK conducting scientific studies As Soon as Possible on Ivermectin?  Don't you want to know the truth? Would it anger you if Ivermectin is extremely effective against Covid? 

Fact is Suitkees...You can't make a valid argument against Ivermectin in Uttar Pradesh. Where are your stats? Where is your scientific argument.  Stats that show Ivermectin does not work in Uttar Pradesh. I'm waiting. 
If you can prove that Ivermectin is NOT the reason that Uttar Pradesh defeated Covid....I will admit you're right. I'll change my reality. That's what a scientist does.  When confronted with scientific data that disproves a theory....A scientist changes their mind.  I always say, "It's Ok to be wrong...It's NOT OK to stay wrong." 

Were you also as 'passionate' about Hydroxychloroquine, after all, it was the first Miracle Cure wasn't it?

I've never mentioned Hydroxychloroquine on this thread. That said, I could teach a class on how it works. But to understand me, you'd need a background on zinc ionosphores and SARS-CoV-2 RNA-dependent RNA polymerase. You'd need to understand the mechanism for how zinc blocks the ensyme-RNA-dependent RNA polymerase from replicating the virus. You'd also need to know how hell Hydroxychloroquine fits into the process. 

 Bottom line...You can't sustain a valid argument against Ivermectin.  And why would you want to?  Do you want to see more people die from Covid?