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SteveG

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Posted: September 18 2021 at 05:23

^ We know that you hope and pray that Biden will go down as the worst president in US history, but that will never happen. He didn't do the worst thing a president could do, namely ignore the Constitution and try to overthrow a legal presidential election. The only thing worse is if Biden starts WWIII. If that happens, you'll be dead and need not worry about it. On the upside, your mind will be at rest for the first time in your life.

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Posted: September 18 2021 at 11:47

SteveG wrote:

^ We know that you hope and pray that Biden will go down as the worst president in US history, but that will never happen. He didn't do the worst thing a president could do, namely ignore the Constitution and try to overthrow a legal presidential election. The only thing worse is if Biden starts WWIII. If that happens, you'll be dead and need not worry about it. On the upside, your mind will be at rest for the first time in life.

Steve, just stop it already, please.. How many times must you prove my point and make a fool of yourself?

“We know that you hope and pray that Biden will go down as the worst president in US history” Who is we and how many of you are there?

What’s the matter, no original thoughts on the subject matter at hand? No opinions on the issues surrounding the mandates? Why don’t you ask one of the voices in your head, maybe one of them has an original view point?

Do you really want to play this game? I don’t mind, I had fun in the other thread before it got closed. Keep in mind; you will surely lose like you did before. Ouch

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Posted: September 18 2021 at 13:32

You remind me of a bumper sticker I saw once that said "I'm so far behind in this race that I think I'm leading." That's you son.

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Posted: September 18 2021 at 14:30

CosmicVibration wrote:

Atavachron wrote:

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overreacting on our Republic crumbling?

overreacting on peoples lives being ruined?

which one or both

Do you mean the Republicans crumbling ? Because the Republic has weathered worse than a minority of sore losers who can't accept defeat so they figure burn everything down. I fear what would replace the GOP if they dissolved. One good thing about the Republican Party is it provided a stopgap to right wing extremism and a platform for good old fashioned American conservatism of which the GOP has clearly rejected.

Let's face it: A majority of voters who call themselves Republicans have decided to reject democracy and almost everything the US stands for. And they will pay a big political price.

No, I did not say Republicans.. In my first post I mentioned our form of government as a Democratic Republic, which it is. I just shortened it to Republic.

On most issues I align more towards Democratic Liberal, then to the Republican way of thinking. Out of all the politicians, Bernie Sanders seems to resonate most with me. However, he is still a politician and what he say’s may not be what he does once in office. While running for the presidency, Biden stated he would not mandate vaccines.

I didn’t vote for Trump or Biden, However, I was rooting for Biden over Trump. Trump set the bar so low I didn’t think Biden or anyone else could go any lower. Biden is proving me wrong.

If you genuinely believe Biden is worse than Trump, we have a true mental schism going on in this country. Maybe there's more than one virus going around.

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Posted: September 18 2021 at 14:37

I don't have any problems with the vaccines. I got my second shot of Moderna back in May and I'm very happy I did this. I don't have any problems with vaccine mandates. I'm all for them. I also don't think Biden is a "tyrant."

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Posted: September 19 2021 at 15:41

Why hasn't right wing media covered Gavin Newsom's huge win in California, sixth largest economy in the world ? I don't think it's just disappointment or denial, I think it's because if you buy the legitimacy of the California vote, why doubt the National one ?

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Posted: September 20 2021 at 04:18

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Well, it's definitely a case of putting their heads in the sand. And besides, it would eat into their doomsday predictions of the Biden presidency. The "border crisis", the Afghan "crisis", etc., etc. You know, all the things that keep CosmicVibration up at night.

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Posted: September 20 2021 at 07:45

Atavachron wrote:

CosmicVibration wrote:

Atavachron wrote:

CosmicVibration wrote:

overreacting on our Republic crumbling?

overreacting on peoples lives being ruined?

which one or both

Let's face it: A majority of voters who call themselves Republicans have decided to reject democracy and almost everything the US stands for. And they will pay a big political price.

No, I did not say Republicans.. In my first post I mentioned our form of government as a Democratic Republic, which it is. I just shortened it to Republic.

I didn’t vote for Trump or Biden, However, I was rooting for Biden over Trump. Trump set the bar so low I didn’t think Biden or anyone else could go any lower. Biden is proving me wrong.

If you genuinely believe Biden is worse than Trump, we have a true mental schism going on in this country. Maybe there's more than one virus going around.

I agree that we have a true mental schism going on in this country. This is one of the main points I was stressing.

Religious interpretation is acceptable but scientific logic is not? Companies are granting religious exemptions but not to those with natural immunity. Medical Science has proven that vaccines for those with natural immunity is irrational. There are at least 15 studies, with the largest study group of over 6,000,000 from Israel.

Companies want to protect their employees, I get it. However, those with natural immunity have a significantly less chance of getting re-infected than those that are vaccinated. And when they do, the viral load is substantially less. They are far less of a risk to others, so what gives?

Nurses, police, firefighters and many others are protesting, getting fired and quitting due to the mandates. I bet most of them have natural immunity. They are in need and their careers and lives are at stake for no good reason. How can any intelligent human being be so obtuse to this situation?

Am I wrong? Is there something I’m overlooking as to why natural immunity should not qualify?

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Posted: September 20 2021 at 07:47

Have you discussed your questions with your doctor, or do you always go to prog rock fans for your medical advice?

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Posted: September 20 2021 at 08:00

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Have you discussed your questions with your doctor, or do you always go to prog rock fans for your medical advice?

Good answer Steve.. wait your not steve

A professor recently just won a lawsuit over this very issue.

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Posted: September 20 2021 at 08:15

CosmicVibration wrote:

Atavachron wrote:

CosmicVibration wrote:

Atavachron wrote:

CosmicVibration wrote:

overreacting on our Republic crumbling?

overreacting on peoples lives being ruined?

which one or both

Let's face it: A majority of voters who call themselves Republicans have decided to reject democracy and almost everything the US stands for. And they will pay a big political price.

No, I did not say Republicans.. In my first post I mentioned our form of government as a Democratic Republic, which it is. I just shortened it to Republic.

I didn’t vote for Trump or Biden, However, I was rooting for Biden over Trump. Trump set the bar so low I didn’t think Biden or anyone else could go any lower. Biden is proving me wrong.

If you genuinely believe Biden is worse than Trump, we have a true mental schism going on in this country. Maybe there's more than one virus going around.

I agree that we have a true mental schism going on in this country. This is one of the main points I was stressing.

Am I wrong? Is there something I’m overlooking as to why natural immunity should not qualify?

I don't think there is anything wrong with natural immunity, it's just that at least half of the population needs to die before it's accomplished. Kind of like back in the plague days of old Europe.

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Posted: September 20 2021 at 08:17

I don't believe the science on natural versus vaccine immunity has come to any conclusions on this.

Take these for example:

https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/27/9/21-1042_article

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/wr/mm6947a2.htm

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-021-03777-9

Even in that Israeli study (which still needs to be peer-reviewed) that you continue to bring up states: "Individuals who were both previously infected with SARS-CoV-2 and given a single dose of the vaccine gained additional protection against the Delta variant."

EDIT: And I'm aware that this is something that the medical community is still debating, such as this article in The BMJ: https://www.bmj.com/content/374/bmj.n2101

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Posted: September 20 2021 at 08:22

Yep, the idea of something like herd immunity has pretty much been abandoned at this point.

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Posted: September 20 2021 at 08:27

Seriously Cosmic, have you ever discussed any of this with your personal physician, not a youtube video.
This isn't a put down, its an honest question.

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Posted: September 20 2021 at 08:32

Even that is not a sure thing for the truth. An old friend of mine is a podiatrist and a diehard Trump fan that believes in the big lie, laughs at masks and thinks the vaccines are dangerous. So, even a respected doctor like him is full of it.

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Posted: September 20 2021 at 08:58

Easy Money wrote:

Seriously Cosmic, have you ever discussed any of this with your personal physician, not a youtube video.
This isn't a put down, its an honest question.

Long story that I may elaborate on later, I need to get back to work.

Over 30 years ago I was diagnosed with crohn’s disease. For several years I saw different doctors and specialists, I was told it was not curable but manageable. To me it didn’t seem like it was manageable, after 3 years I weighed 110lbs @ 6’ tall.

I finally ended up going to the Schacter Center for complimentary medicine. There were 2 MD’s on staff as well as an Alternative practitioner. After 1 month of alternative therapies my symptoms started to reverse. It took around 5 years to get back to 100%, so yea, it was curable.

Most doctors know even less about vaccines then they do about nutrition. Unless they take the time to do the research on their own they are told how great vaccines work and given a schedule. Maybe couple of hours out of all the years of study are dedicated to vaccines, same for nutrition.

How many in medical school have the time to research something that will not be on the test?

I see alternative practitioners but have not visited a medical doctor in over 20 years now.

I was always on the side of modern medicine verse’s what I saw as the quackery of snake oil charmers until i got sick.

Over the years I learned a lot about whole body healing from both MD’s and alternative practitioners.

Key is to listen to all sides, question everything and do your own thinking.

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Posted: September 20 2021 at 09:07

SteveG wrote:

Even that is not a sure thing for the truth. An old friend of mine is a podiatrist and a diehard Trump fan that believes in the big lie, laughs at masks and thinks the vaccines are dangerous. So, even a respected doctor like him is full of it.

Interesting. Lately I have been seeing many doctors due to having cancer and problems related to cancer and they all (around 15) all say the same things, mask, vaccine, social distance etc.
I do know a nurse who thinks the vaccine needs to be around longer before she is trying it, but otherwise she is pretty careful about Covid. She works in the local ICU and has seen many people die.

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Posted: September 20 2021 at 09:17

Re Cosmic: My main complaint about doctors in this part of the country is they seem to be very behind when it comes to the importance of diet. I got most of my info on cancer fighting foods, and a proper diet for decreasing damage from chemo and radiation from a progressive cancer center in Austin TX. The food they serve in the hospitals here is just awful.
We also do not have medical marijuana here, which is a miracle substance when it comes to chemo and radiation.
I'm also always interested in older cures such as Chinese herbal cures etc.

Edited by Easy Money - September 20 2021 at 09:22

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Posted: September 20 2021 at 10:03

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Re Cosmic: My main complaint about doctors in this part of the country is they seem to be very behind when it comes to the importance of diet. I got most of my info on cancer fighting foods, and a proper diet for decreasing damage from chemo and radiation from a progressive cancer center in Austin TX. The food they serve in the hospitals here is just awful.
We also do not have medical marijuana here, which is a miracle substance when it comes to chemo and radiation.
I'm also always interested in older cures such as Chinese herbal cures etc.

There are 3 distinct ways of treating an unbalance. It’s ideal to incorporate all 3, unless of course you have the control to just will it.

Mind alone can cure any disease, aka the placebo effect. The mind can trigger the body to produce any chemical needed in the exact dose needed at precisely the right time and with zero side effects. I think most doctors will agree that a positive attitude goes a long way. This may me all one can do...

The universe will give you exactly what you ask for, you must be precise, treat it as if your writing software code. If the mantra is, I will get better, that is what you are putting forth and you will be stuck in a never-ending loop. On the other hand, if you profess that I Am better, I Am ____ free. This is what will be manifest, but there must be zero doubt about it. Not easy...

2^nd way is energy work. There are more energy methods than you can shake a stick at. Most common are acupuncture and laser puncture. There are methods that are really far out there that I wouldn’t even consider until recently, after I saw firsthand results.

3^rd is chemicals, yes they do help in certain circumstances but are risky when synthesized in a lab. I think food and supplements fit into both the energy and chemical category.

I would tackle it from every angle I can. You are a 3 part being, so why not address all 3 fronts.

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Posted: September 20 2021 at 10:21

CosmicVibration wrote:

if you profess that I Am better, I Am ____ free. This is what will be manifest, but there must be zero doubt about it. Not easy...

Not desirable for me, either.

BTW, this is ludicrous when coupled with your proclamation about "questioning everything". Really...

I'm aware of some of our mental powers too, but I prefer to be original in that. Not like an indoctrinated puppet.