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Logan has already open the new poll, 

so, 

I suggest to open the Nickie's poll next sunday or monday in the prog area.
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Will do, Lorenzo!  Thank you!  
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Originally posted by Snicolette Snicolette wrote:

I actually am thinking of doing a lesser-known (under 50 reviews) prog poll, Greg.  First thought was to do a "dying to get this into a poll," then I realized I have some I've been saving for a prog poll, which I've been waiting for, besides the non-prog one.  Other pollsters?  Chime in.  Smile

50 reviews or 50 ratings?

(I'd prefer under 50 reviews)
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Originally posted by jamesbaldwin jamesbaldwin wrote:

Originally posted by Snicolette Snicolette wrote:

I actually am thinking of doing a lesser-known (under 50 reviews) prog poll, Greg.  First thought was to do a "dying to get this into a poll," then I realized I have some I've been saving for a prog poll, which I've been waiting for, besides the non-prog one.  Other pollsters?  Chime in.  Smile

50 reviews or 50 ratings?

(I'd prefer under 50 reviews)

How many are there with more than 50 reviews? Not many, I'd think.
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Originally posted by Lewian Lewian wrote:

Originally posted by jamesbaldwin jamesbaldwin wrote:

Originally posted by Snicolette Snicolette wrote:

I actually am thinking of doing a lesser-known (under 50 reviews) prog poll, Greg.  First thought was to do a "dying to get this into a poll," then I realized I have some I've been saving for a prog poll, which I've been waiting for, besides the non-prog one.  Other pollsters?  Chime in.  Smile

50 reviews or 50 ratings?

(I'd prefer under 50 reviews)

How many are there with more than 50 reviews? Not many, I'd think.

yes, you're right, so Nickie meant to choose songs from albums with less than 50 RATINGS.

Ok, 50 ratings (they are equivalent to 5 reviews, less or more).
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Originally posted by jamesbaldwin jamesbaldwin wrote:

Originally posted by Lewian Lewian wrote:

Originally posted by jamesbaldwin jamesbaldwin wrote:

Originally posted by Snicolette Snicolette wrote:

I actually am thinking of doing a lesser-known (under 50 reviews) prog poll, Greg.  First thought was to do a "dying to get this into a poll," then I realized I have some I've been saving for a prog poll, which I've been waiting for, besides the non-prog one.  Other pollsters?  Chime in.  Smile

50 reviews or 50 ratings?

(I'd prefer under 50 reviews)

How many are there with more than 50 reviews? Not many, I'd think.

yes, you're right, so Nickie meant to choose songs from albums with less than 50 RATINGS.

Ok, 50 ratings (they are equivalent to 5 reviews, less or more).
  Yes, I did mean ratings, sorry!  Forgot the term for this site.
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Lorenzo, Logan has mentioned perhaps my opening the new poll on Friday, which would give two full weekends to people, I can certainly wait until Sunday or Monday, though.  Let me know what the preference is, and/or if others feel they don't want a slightly overlapping poll.  Thanks!
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Originally posted by Snicolette Snicolette wrote:

Lorenzo, Logan has mentioned perhaps my opening the new poll on Friday, which would give two full weekends to people, I can certainly wait until Sunday or Monday, though.  Let me know what the preference is, and/or if others feel they don't want a slightly overlapping poll.  Thanks!

Dear Nickie, I think you can open your poll on Sunday or Monday, so that everyone has time to read the messages on Logan's new poll and hear the songs well. Polls weren't always open on Fridays but also on Saturdays, Sundays, or Mondays, so I don't think there is any problem with waiting a few days. And your poll can last two weeks.
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Thank you, Lorenzo, I think I will shoot for sometime on Sunday, then.   
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Nickie, 

since you will soon open the new poll in the prog area, I think we should take care to make the rules well understood by forumists not used to Interactive polls, who are usually used to voting immediately and may not understand the mechanism. 

I wonder if it is better to ask them from the beginning to candidate a single song for the poll and maybe a second one out of the competition.
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Hello Lorenzo: 

Are you saying two songs, one in, one out of competition, where we often have had 3 (and some go over that, as well, esp if they're short)?  

I will certainly add the rules, I've been one who sometimes falters when they get switched up, so will clearly state them, especially as it's a Prog Poll and not a non-Prog poll, and perhaps different members will notice it than our usual players in this section.
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Originally posted by Snicolette Snicolette wrote:

Hello Lorenzo: 

Are you saying two songs, one in, one out of competition, where we often have had 3 (and some go over that, as well, esp if they're short)?  


Yes, this is my idea.

It's a way to avoid confusion with forumists new to IPolls ... or do I worry too much?
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Originally posted by jamesbaldwin jamesbaldwin wrote:

Originally posted by Snicolette Snicolette wrote:

Hello Lorenzo: 

Are you saying two songs, one in, one out of competition, where we often have had 3 (and some go over that, as well, esp if they're short)?  


Yes, this is my idea.

It's a way to avoid confusion with forumists new to IPolls ... or do I worry too much?

what is your worry, I did not understand. 

There were a couple of users that posted here but did not make any efforts to understand what is going on here. No damage done though If you ask me. Embarrassed
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Just wanted to make sure that I understood.  I agree, with it's being a prog poll, that to try to keep it to just a couple to listen to rather than a vast array from each participant is a good idea, some prog pieces are longer ones, after all.  

Should they decide from the get-go which one they want in and out, or wait for that (by virtue of elimination) until after they get some input from those who like to comment?
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Originally posted by Snicolette Snicolette wrote:

Just wanted to make sure that I understood.  I agree, with it's being a prog poll, that to try to keep it to just a couple to listen to rather than a vast array from each participant is a good idea, some prog pieces are longer ones, after all.  

Should they decide from the get-go which one they want in and out, or wait for that (by virtue of elimination) until after they get some input from those who like to comment?



Ok, let's try with a couple of song, asking to all the partecipants to decide which song nominate after a week.
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Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by jamesbaldwin jamesbaldwin wrote:

Originally posted by Snicolette Snicolette wrote:

Hello Lorenzo: 

Are you saying two songs, one in, one out of competition, where we often have had 3 (and some go over that, as well, esp if they're short)?  


Yes, this is my idea.

It's a way to avoid confusion with forumists new to IPolls ... or do I worry too much?

what is your worry, I did not understand. 

There were a couple of users that posted here but did not make any efforts to understand what is going on here. No damage done though If you ask me. Embarrassed

No, I dont think about this thread, anyway, ok, let's try.
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Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by jamesbaldwin jamesbaldwin wrote:

Originally posted by Snicolette Snicolette wrote:

Hello Lorenzo: 

Are you saying two songs, one in, one out of competition, where we often have had 3 (and some go over that, as well, esp if they're short)?  


Yes, this is my idea.

It's a way to avoid confusion with forumists new to IPolls ... or do I worry too much?

what is your worry, I did not understand. 

There were a couple of users that posted here but did not make any efforts to understand what is going on here. No damage done though If you ask me. Embarrassed

I'm with Cristi in the sense that I think there is no problem with confusion, there's a problem with people who don't care and don't read. Changing the rules will not change that.
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I would also have the poll in the general music section. But that's what I would do... 
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Link to the new Interactive Lesser-Known Prog Poll #-50:
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INTERACTIVE POLLS PART TWO: 21 - 40 

Dear friends,

This article was born as a memorandum, a place where you can find the link to all our Interactive poll, and where you can find the three most voted songs (three or more, depending on whether there are equal merits). 

I originally conceived it for myself, to remind me of our I.Polls and of the songs I voted for. In this way, I can looking for some of these artists, new to me, and listen to their music in the future. I also took the opportunity to put my nominations (to avoid repeating myself to putting the same ones twice!) and the votes they got. And since someone might be interested in having a list of my nominations, I also put some albums, linked to the artists I nominated, which I recommend to anyone who liked that music.

If anyone else wanted to make a list of his nominations (and relative advices), I'd be happy.

Enjoy!

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No. 21
By Meltdowner, October 14 2020 at 05:59
4 Votes:
-Calibro 35 - Thrust Force
-Tom Kelly - God and the Flatlanders (Waltz Version)
3 Votes:
-Basorelief - Crocodilul
-Salaryman - My Hands Are Always In Water
-Us, Today - Greetings From The Master
-Ronnie Montrose - Rocky Road
(My votes: Basorelief, Fred Frith: The Boy Beats The Rams; Calibro 35)
My nomination: Cassiber - Chor Der Gefangenen, (England-Germany), 1 vote, taken from Man Or Monkey, 1983, adviced)

No. 22
5 votes:
-Kokoko! - "Malembe"
4 Votes:
-King Sunny Ade - "365 is my Number/The Message"
3 Votes:
- Black Bombaim - "Africa 2"
- Tinariwen - "Toumast Tincha"
(My votes: Tony Allen and Hugh Masekela - "Never", Tinariwen - "Toumast Tincha", Kokoko!;
My nomination: Mau Mau: Ellis Island (Italy, sung in the Piemontese dialect), 1 vote, taken from the live album: Marasma General (2001), adviced)

No. 23
7 Votes:
-Heather Nova - "Island"
-Barbara Morgenstern - “Angel’s Whisper”
4 Votes:
-Francesca Lago - “Bring the Noise”
-Faun Fables - "Goodbye"
-Kipyn Martin - “Undone”
(My votes: Nico: Mutterlein; Silver Medal: Barbara Morgenstein; Faun Fables: Goodbye)
My nomination: Francesca Lago - “Bring the Noise” (Italy-England, sung in English), 
taken from Siberian Dream Map, 2011, strongly adviced)

No. 24
Interactive Poll # -45 (or something)
By TCat, November 25 2020 at 19:08
5 votes:
- My Morning Jacket
4 votes:
-Radian
-Giovanni L. Ferretti & Ambrogio Sparagna (Litania), Italy, live
That is my nomination, strongly adviced.
My votes: My Morning Jacket, Pram and Dara. Interested in all of them plus Radian)

No. 25
6 Votes:
- Dissòi Logòi -Amptruabat Redamptruabat
-Karl Seglem - Springar fra fjord
4 Votes:
-Marius Popp - Inscriptie
-Meredith Monk - Anthem
-Kreng - Wrak
(My votes: Mermen - Burn; Pelle Gudmundsen-Holmgreen - Je ne me tairai jamais, Jamais. Quicksilver.
My nomination: Dissòi Logòi -Amptruabat Redamptruabat, (Italy, instrumental) taken from the Collection "Notturno etrusco", strongly adviced. Interested in Mermen and Pelle Gudmundsen-Holmgreen and Marius Popp)

No. 26
6 Votes:
- Tom Rapp: Fourth Day Of July + Cheril Wheeler: If It Were Up To Me
5 Votes.
- Les Anarchistes: The Ballad of Sacco & Vanzetti (feat. Petra Magoni) + Pishkù Li (feat. Moni Ovadia)
- RedGum: I Was Only 19 + Suede: Shipbuilding
(My votes: Harper/Browne: The Monster + For Everyman; Solidaritätslied (Solidarity Song) + L'iditenté; No One is Responsible + Plan (That's Not the Way...). My nomination: Les Anarchistes (Italy, the first song, written by Morricone and Baez, is sung in English, the second song is sung in hebrew by Moni Ovadia), their song are taken from: Les Anarchistes: La Musica nelle Strade, adviced, and adviced also Les Anarchistes: Figli di Origine Oscura. Another suggestion of mine: The Gang: La Pianura dei Sette Fratelli. Interested in Tom Rapp and Roy Harper.) 

No. 27
4 votes:
- Mica Levi + Mono: Lipstick to Void & Disney Town
- Michael Penn + Owain Phaifes - No Myth and Heartrase
- Kashmir : The Cynic + The Push
(My votes: No myth... + Grateful When You're Dead / Jerry... & Sir Psycho Sexy + You Ain't Alone & My Mother is Not the White Dove... My nomination: Steve Wynn: Carolyn & Strange New World (USA), 1 vote, I advice Kerosene Man and Here Come the Miracles)

No. 28 
8 votes:
-No Way Out of Here (Unicorn + Iron & Wine)
6 votes:
-The Garden of Earthly Delights (The USA + Snakefinger)
5 votes:
-Rythme futur (Django Reinhardt + Atomic Ape)
(My votes: Smells Like Teen Spirit (Nirvana + Shaka Ponk), No Way Out of Here, 
Is It Like Today? (World Party + Eliza Gilkyson)
(My nomination: Via con me (Paolo Conte + Negri per caso), (Italy) 0 votes Cry )

No. 29
5 Votes:
- The Call - The Woods (Mathman)
- Nick Cave - The Carny (jamesbaldwin)
- Bitter Sweet Alley - Time To Move (rushfan4)
(My votes: The Call, Zaz Turned Blue - A-ha Manhattan Skyline. interested in these artists plus Dead Kennedys-My nomination, Nick Cave - The Carny (Australia). Strongly adviced: From her to Eternity, Your Funeral My Trial, The Good Son, No More Shall We Part)

No. 30
6 votes:
-John Cale and Terry Riley - Church of Anthrax
5 votes:
-Bruce Soord With Jonas Renkse - Pleasure
-Jonas Hellborg, Buckethead, Michael Shrieve - Kidogo
(My votes: Haco + Sakamoto Hiromichi - Zero Hills; Church of Anthrax ; U2 & BB King: When Love Comes To Town. My nomination: F. De André & Dori Ghezzi: Khorakhané (Italy, sung in Italian and in Romani), 4 votes. My advice: F. De André - Tutti morimmo a stento - Creuza de Ma - Anime salve. F. De André & PFM: In Concerto, voll I & II (here in PA in the Prog related category)

No. 31
6 Votes:
- Väsen - IPA-gubben (The Anders)
4 Votes:
- Tunng - Woodcat (suitkees)
- Stormy Six - Il barbiere (jamesbaldwin)
- Wu Fei & Abigail Washburn - The Roving Cowboy (mathman0806)
(My votes: Vasen, Wu Fei, Gordon Lightfoot: Black Day In July. My nomination: The Stormy Six: Il Barbiere (Italy), taken from the album: L'apprendita, strongly adviced, but even The Stormy Six: Macchina maccheronica is strongly adviced. Interested in Fovea Hex and Lightfoot)

No. 32
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By Snicolette, April 01 2021 at 11:48
6 Votes:
- Cathy Berberian “Ticket To Ride” (Tancos)
4 Votes:
- Dennis Leary "A**hole" (mathman0806)
- Todd Snider "Talkin' Seattle Grunge Rock Blues" (snicolette)
- Gillan "No Laughing in Heaven" (Raff)
(My votes: Joe Ely "Me & Billy the Kid" (TCat), Happatai "Yatta" (Shadowyzard), Deichkind, "Richtig gutes Zeug" (Lewian). My nomination: Giorgio Gaber: Il Corrotto (Italy), 1 vote taken from "Io non mi sento italiano", adviced with La Mia Generazione Ha Perso)

No. 33
Interractive Poll #? - Oldies rocking goldiesBy 
By Cristi Posted: April 17 2021 at 10:51
8 Votes:
- Blue Öyster Cult - "The Alchemist" (Raff)
7 Votes:
- VDGG - Manuelle (I prophesy disaster)
- Iggy Pop - Loves Missing (Nick)
(My Votes: VDGG: Manuelle, Nits - The Electric Pond, Friedman and Liebezeit - "182-11". My nomination:
Bruce Springsteen: If I Was The Priest (USA), 1 vote. I advice: The Wild The Innocent & The E Street Shuffle, Born To Run, Darkness of the Edge of Town, Live in Dublin. Other suggestions: Guccini: Natale a Pavana, De André e Mina: La Canzone di Marinella).

No. 34
6 Votes: 
- Fluturi Pe Asfalt - Munti Sub Mari
5 Votes:
- PJ Harvey - The River
- Gustava Santoalalla - Iguazú
(My Votes: Handel - Water Music, Susan McKeown - Lowlands of Holland, Blind Faith - Sea of Joy, My nomination: The Gang: Dopo La Pioggia (Italy), 3 votes. Other suggestions: Alberto Fortis: Mary, Guccini, Acque. I advice these Gang's albums: Le Radici e le Ali, Storie d'Italia, Una Volta per Sempre)

No. 35
By mathman0806, May 09 2021 at 17:51
6 Votes:
- Mikko Joensuu – House of Fire
- XTC – Great Fire
5 Votes: 
- Lalli: I Fuochi, 
(My votes: Ruth Copeland – Play with Fire, RÊVE – Moths, The Winery Dogs – Fire. Interested in Ruth Copeland and REVE. My nomination is taken from: Lalli (Italy): Tempo di vento, 1998, strongly adviced.)

No. 36
By Snicolette, June 05 2021 at 08:18
10 Votes:
- Roberta Flack – “The First Time Ever I Saw Your Face” 
6 votes:
- Broadcast - "You Can Fall"
- Offa Rex's "The Queen of Hearts,"
- Helium Horse Fly - Adrift
(My votes: Charming Hostess - "Laws of Physics"; Broadcast; Janis Joplin: Piece of my heart.
My nomination: Ginevra di Marco: Vedrai Vedrai (Italy), 3 votes)

No.37
By Logan, June 08 2021 at 09:31
8 Votes:
- Msaki: Dreams / Laibach: Smrt za smrt (Death for Death) 
6 votes:
- Penderecki: Threnody for the Victims / Tallis: Spem in alium
- Teeth of the Sea: Whilst We Live in Fear/ Reynes: Heavenly..
- M. Zamboni: Dolorama / Franco Battiato: L'ombra della Luce (my nomination)
(I didnt voteConfused
My advice: Franco Battiato: Cafe de la Paix, L'imboscata, Last Summer Dance (live))

No. 38
5 Votes
- Dhafer Youssef - Soupir Eternel
4 votes:
- A Winged Victory for the Sullen - We Played Some Open Chorrd
3 votes
-Alternativ Quartet - Linistea Astupa Goluri
- Talk Talk - After the Flood
- M. Ward - Chinese Translation
(My Votes: Talk Talk: After the Flood, Dhafer, Alternativ Quartet: Linistea Astupa Golori. My nomination: Donovan - Nirvana (USA), 1 vote, My advice: Donovan - Sutras (1996))

No. 39
Interactive Poll: Outta This World (just 1 vote par person)
By JD, July 07 2021 at 11:09
3 votes:
Cat Stevens - Novim's Nightmare 
2 votes
- Fleetwood Mac - Bermuda Triangle
-Gnags - Fra en Fremmed Planet 
-Comet is Coming - Journey Through the Aster 
(My votes: Cat Stevens, Gnags, Keldian - Starchildren, My nomination: Eugenio Finardi: Extraterrestre (Italy), 1 vote, not credited. My advice: Eugenio Finardi - Sugo - La Forza dell'amore - Millennio. Interested in Gnags)

4 Votes:
-The Unseen - Ev. the Spirits've Taken Over (Saperlipopette)
3 Votes:
-The Budos Band - Magus Mountain (mathman0806)
-Iron & Wine - House By The Sea (Snicolette)
-HyCo - Witches (Lewian)
-Mick Karn - Plaster the Magic Tongue (TCat)
(My votes: HyCo - Witches (Lewian), Iron & Wine - House By The Sea (Snicolette), The Budos Band - Magus Mountain (mathman0806). Interested in Hyco. My nomination: Modena City Ramblers: Radio Tindouf, (Italy), 1 vote. I advice: Modena City Ramblers: Riportando Tutto a casa, La Grande Famiglia, Terra e Libertà).
Amos Goldberg (professor of Genocide Studies at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem): Yes, it's genocide. It's so difficult and painful to admit it, but we can no longer avoid this conclusion.
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