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    Posted: September 18 2021 at 05:37
No all or none options.

You can still vote for one, if you haven't watched all these.

All the 3 movies were released in 1999.

They have quite similar main themes.

I presume The Matrix will dominate here, but I'm curious how many (if any, other than mine) votes the other options can get.

My pick is eXistenZ.

And yours?



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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote Icarium Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 18 2021 at 05:48
I might watch them before voting, can only remember to have seen the Matrix, maybe also the 13th Floor
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote progaardvark Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 18 2021 at 07:14
The Matrix is the only one of these three I have seen, thus voted accordingly. I do have 13th Floor on my list of movies to look out for when I'm shopping. Never heard of eXistenZ, but now that I've looked it up and saw the interesting cast it has, I've added that to my list too.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote BaldFriede Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 18 2021 at 07:27
I voted "The 13th Floor", chiefly because it is based on the same novel ("Simulacron-3" by Daniel F. Galouye) as one of my absolutely favourite SF-movies, "Welt am Draht" ("World on a Wire") by Rainer Werner Fassbinder. I don't like "The Matrix" at all. I have never seen "eXistenZ".


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote BaldFriede Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 18 2021 at 09:12
Jean and I just watched "eXistenZ" for the first time. It reminded us a bit of the story "The Three Stigmata of Palmer Eldritch" by Philip K. Dick regarding the multiple layers of "reality". We definitely liked it a lot more than "The Matrix".


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote JD Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 18 2021 at 10:21
Did you mean...The Thirteenth Floor (1999) ?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Shadowyzard Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 18 2021 at 10:54
Originally posted by JD JD wrote:

Did you mean...The Thirteenth Floor (1999) ?


Yes. I explicitly stated that all the movies are from 1999.

Also IMDb says that it is also known as "The 13th Floor". So we are not doing "official" stuff here, do we?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote JD Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 18 2021 at 11:13
It says that where now?


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Shadowyzard Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 18 2021 at 11:18
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote JD Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 18 2021 at 11:29
Ok, whatever.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Logan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 18 2021 at 11:34
^^ I was about to post those "details" after checking it out on IMDB.  

There are a couple of The 13th Floor films, I was familiar with the 1988 one.

I have seen The Thirteenth Floor (1999), but don't recall it strongly enough.  The Matrix and eXistenZ I know more.  I saw eXistenZ when it came out and was a little disappointed.  I like it, but it reminded me of Videodrome a little too much, which I consider the much better David Cronenberg film.

An earlier era, but in terms of VR type films, I have real soft spot for Brainstorm.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote suitkees Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 18 2021 at 12:47
The Matrix for me. I saw all three of them, but consider The Thirteenth Floor as rather mediocre and Existenz as an interesting but failed attempt to transpose a video game logic into a linear filmic narration: nice visuals but rather empty as a film. The matrix, though a rather simple kind of adaptation of Plato's cavern story, is interesting because of the originality of its adaptation, the choreography of the action scenes and its overall direction.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote BaldJean Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 18 2021 at 13:22
"Welt am Draht" from 1973 deals with the same themes but is so much better than the extremely disappointing "The Matrix", which in my opinion is nothing but an overblown FX-spectacle without any substance. I never understood the hype about the movie


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Shadowyzard Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 18 2021 at 14:47
Copy-paste from my most recent post on the forums:

Nirvana (Italy/France - 1997) - Flatly out (if this is grammatically correct): A masterpiece. Like a big VVS alexandrite gemstone (colour changing Wink). One of the best movies I've ever seen. VR fans shouldn't miss it. But others should also give it a chance. Yet, I must say that this is purely a '90s film. Mind you, I'm not extravagant in using the word masterpie... See? I'm not. Tongue 10/10
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