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Man Overboard 
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 Topic: Y'all slept on the best prog concept arc
Posted: September 06 2021 at 17:08 |
Five contemporary concept albums that tell one overarching true story. Each album wholly unique. A concept bigger than the Dark Side/Animals/Wish You Were Here/The Wall/The Final Cut pentology. Tons of related material dating back decades. Human Rights Campaign/Foundation currently under federal investigation for their backstage business model of blackmail and extortion, not to mention their genocide conspiracy dating back to 1971 and prior. Ed Unitsky coverart on the sophomore release. The most meaningful musical leap since Bach took pen to parchment. All material composed, arranged, and produced by a single auteur. Challenging listen in unexpected ways, requires relaxed attention. Music composed to such a fine degree that it truly describes an ongoing situation, in ways that the progressive rock greats have never achieved. Mixing and mastering that Steven Wilson is envious of, analog engineering with 24-bit high-resolution audio at every digital stage.
A first amendment accolade.
Hours of inventive progressive rock finely crafted to a degree you've never considered possible.
Listed in reverse order, free to listen to without restriction:
Tracks to dip your toes in: Nothing Watered Down, A Clearing Of Grass In The Temple, Opus No. 98.0025
Tracks to dip your toes in: Rounding Up The Circle, No Shelter, A Meadow's Day
Tracks to dip your toes in: Practicing Craft (Q-Ball's Quandary), A Certain Stage Of Development, Indemnification (Take 2)
Tracks to dip your toes in: Prepondering, Sixty-Six Point Six
Tracks to dip your toes in: Smash The B.O.P., Bring Heaven In
Edited by Man Overboard - September 07 2021 at 15:06
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Duddick
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Posted: September 07 2021 at 11:34 |
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Is there proof Steve Wilson is envious of the production?
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Rednight
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Posted: September 07 2021 at 11:42 |
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Check, please!
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"It just has none of the qualities of your work that I find interesting. Abandon [?] it." - Eno
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The Dark Elf
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Posted: September 07 2021 at 12:47 |
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I must be still sleeping. Wake me up when it's over.
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...a vigorous circular motion hitherto unknown to the people of this area, but destined
to take the place of the mud shark in your mythology...
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Atavachron
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Posted: September 07 2021 at 13:29 |
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"Too often we enjoy the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought." -- John F. Kennedy
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Duddick
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Posted: September 07 2021 at 13:41 |
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I think a little bit more humility in your description of your music might help potential listeners be more amenable?!!
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Cristi
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Posted: September 07 2021 at 13:45 |
 Duddick wrote:
I think a little bit more humility in your description of your music might help potential listeners be more amenable?!! |
very well said. 
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Logan
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Posted: September 07 2021 at 13:50 |
Cristi wrote:
Duddick wrote:
I think a little bit more humility in your description of your music might help potential listeners be more amenable?!! |
very well said. |
I read it as humorous though. I quite commonly joke around with a straight-face often employing absurdity and hyperbole. There are so many different ways that people interpret intent.
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Cristi
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Posted: September 07 2021 at 13:53 |
Logan wrote:
Cristi wrote:
Duddick wrote:
I think a little bit more humility in your description of your music might help potential listeners be more amenable?!! |
very well said. |
I read it as humorous though. I quite commonly joke around with a straight-face often employing absurdity and hyperbole. There are so many different ways that people interpret intent. |
The presentation sounded like a reproach.  How dare we not know these concept albums from an artist whose name is not even mentioned in the presentation.
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Man Overboard
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Posted: September 07 2021 at 13:56 |
Cristi wrote:
Logan wrote:
Cristi wrote:
Duddick wrote:
I think a little bit more humility in your description of your music might help potential listeners be more amenable?!! |
very well said. |
I read it as humorous though. I quite commonly joke around with a straight-face often employing absurdity and hyperbole. There are so many different ways that people interpret intent. |
The presentation sounded like a reproach. How dare we not know these concept albums from an artist whose name is not even mentioned in the presentation. |
One measure of the power of a new idea: the degree of hostility that rises to meet it. - Robert Fripp
Perhaps you're not relaxed enough to assess the humor and humility, Christi? 
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Cristi
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Posted: September 07 2021 at 14:00 |
Man Overboard wrote:
Cristi wrote:
Logan wrote:
Cristi wrote:
Duddick wrote:
I think a little bit more humility in your description of your music might help potential listeners be more amenable?!! |
very well said. |
I read it as humorous though. I quite commonly joke around with a straight-face often employing absurdity and hyperbole. There are so many different ways that people interpret intent. |
The presentation sounded like a reproach. How dare we not know these concept albums from an artist whose name is not even mentioned in the presentation. |
One measure of the power of a new idea: the degree of hostility that rises to meet it. - Robert Fripp
Perhaps you're not relaxed enough to assess the humor and humility, Christi? |
I just agreed to the user above me. You are a bit hostile in your presentation as well. Relaxed enough for this thread?! Probably not...
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JD
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Posted: September 07 2021 at 14:04 |
It was this that made me laugh...
"analog engineering with 24-bit high-resolution audio at every digital stage."
Read..."Using my mouse I twiddled the knobs on my laptop and made a CD"
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Thank you for supporting independently produced music
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Man Overboard
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Posted: September 07 2021 at 14:06 |
Really, the comments that don't address the music are proving a self-defeating point about the commenters.
Cristi wrote:
I just agreed to the user above me. You are a bit hostile in your presentation as well. Relaxed enough for this thread?! Probably not... |
So much time and process wasted not assessing the material itself. Perhaps you share your thoughts on the music, and keep the tone civil.
JD wrote:
It was this that made me laugh...
"analog engineering with 24-bit high-resolution audio at every digital stage."
Read..."Using my mouse I twiddled the knobs on my laptop and made a CD"  |
Listening would give you a different reading. Unless you know how to twiddle out a guitar lead such as Fire Delegation's, from Four Corners?
Edited by Man Overboard - September 07 2021 at 14:07
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Cristi
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Posted: September 07 2021 at 14:07 |
Man Overboard wrote:
Cristi wrote:
I just agreed to the user above me. You are a bit hostile in your presentation as well. Relaxed enough for this thread?! Probably not... |
So much time and process wasted not assessing the material itself. Perhaps you share your thoughts on the music, and keep the tone civil. |
how am I not civil? 
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suitkees
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Posted: September 07 2021 at 14:25 |
Sometimes I'm amazed how people completely pass by clear second degree humour...
That said, I found the presentation very convincing in that it was incredible enough to make me curious... So, I listened to a couple of tracks (I see now that there are "tracks to dip your toes in" suggested; did you add those later, Erin? I don't think I listened to any of these). I think Pink Floyd can Breathe with some relief: their success will probably not be equalled... For my tastes it is a bit too much subdued and ambient, but I listened only to 4 or 5 tracks and some snippets... By heart - I listened to them this morning - I think the track Galvanized (if I remember the title well) was the most interesting of those heard... If I tip my toes in those suggested will it be very different?
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Duddick
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Posted: September 07 2021 at 14:30 |
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Sadly the more I read the less I’m inclined to listen to the artist based on their attitude. It may be my loss but one I’m willing to take
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JD
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Posted: September 07 2021 at 14:33 |
Man Overboard wrote:
Really, the comments that don't address the music are proving a self-defeating point about the commenters.
Cristi wrote:
I just agreed to the user above me. You are a bit hostile in your presentation as well. Relaxed enough for this thread?! Probably not... |
So much time and process wasted not assessing the material itself. Perhaps you share your thoughts on the music, and keep the tone civil.
JD wrote:
It was this that made me laugh...
"analog engineering with 24-bit high-resolution audio at every digital stage."
Read..."Using my mouse I twiddled the knobs on my laptop and made a CD" |
Listening would give you a different reading. Unless you know how to twiddle out a guitar lead such as Fire Delegation's, from Four Corners?
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Oh I listened...very New Age IMO. Something my wife would have on while reading on the patio. I might listen to some of it while getting a massage. I took most of what was written in your post as pure jest. I was interested to hear what they were like but I have to say I was a little under whelmed.
But don't pay any mind to me...I'm an ELP fanboy !
Edited by JD - September 07 2021 at 14:35
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Thank you for supporting independently produced music
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Man Overboard
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Posted: September 07 2021 at 14:40 |
suitkees wrote:
Sometimes I'm amazed how people completely pass by clear second degree humour...
That said, I found the presentation very convincing in that it was incredible enough to make me curious... So, I listened to a couple of tracks (I see now that there are "tracks to dip your toes in" suggested; did you add those later, Erin? I don't think I listened to any of these). I think Pink Floyd can Breathe with some relief: their success will probably not be equalled... For my tastes it is a bit too much subdued and ambient, but I listened only to 4 or 5 tracks and some snippets... By heart - I listened to them this morning - I think the track Galvanized (if I remember the title well) was the most interesting of those heard... If I tip my toes in those suggested will it be very different?
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Thank you for your contribution. "Our living is as rich as our attention is available." I'm wishing to minimize my interaction in this thread, but you've asked questions in good faith, and in my own good faith and integrity, I cannot deny you the opportunity to be answered. I did add those suggestions later on--the format of the albums (structural conceptual listens not written for commercial gain) does not lend itself to immediate accessibility. That said, your perception is likely to be very different if you dip your toes onto those suggested tracks--they will showcase a variety of compositional approaches that speak to the broader variety the pentology offers, while demonstrating the integrity of each individual album's cohesivity. Ambient isn't the primary quality of this music--wouldn't you consider it to be too intentional and cohesive for ambient?--integrity is. Pay attention to the harmonies, counterpoint, and unique rhythmic and structural qualities that interlock with them. I did not list the most commercially accessible tracks from the records (stuff like Smashed Brat, Look What We Have Here, Pentobarbital), but with attentive listening, one will come to see the accessible nature of each track and its place within the album and pentology itself. One might even discover the direct musical connections that tie each track and album.
Edited by Man Overboard - September 07 2021 at 15:36
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Cylli Kat (0fficial)
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Posted: September 08 2021 at 12:10 |
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Q Anon among us?
I trust that Erin was being tongue in cheek with lines such as "The most meaningful musical leap since Bach took pen to parchment." Or, "Listening would give you a different reading. Unless you know how to
twiddle out a guitar lead such as Fire Delegation's, from Four Corners?"...
Wow!
Sorry, I must be missing it here. I hear nothing of that caliber in evidence.
The supposed leap from Bach to this is obviously pure hyperbole.
The solo in Fire Delegation is nothing remarkable...
But, as always, your mileage may vary...
And it also comes with a conspiracy theory!!!
"Human Rights Campaign/Foundation currently under federal investigation
for their backstage business model of blackmail and extortion, not to
mention their genocide conspiracy dating back to 1971 and prior."
And yet, I'm unable to find anything to back this claim. Although, maybe I'm not looking in the right places...
As for me, I'll blissfully continue sleeping through this self-proclaimed "best prog concept arc".
But, all the best to you in your musical endeavors!
Edited by Cylli Kat (0fficial) - September 08 2021 at 12:12
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(Insert Clever Words Here) I'm actually this guy: Cylli Kat
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Man Overboard
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Posted: September 08 2021 at 20:23 |
Cylli Kat (0fficial) wrote:
Q Anon among us?
I trust that Erin was being tongue in cheek with lines such as "The most meaningful musical leap since Bach took pen to parchment." Or, "Listening would give you a different reading. Unless you know how to
twiddle out a guitar lead such as Fire Delegation's, from Four Corners?"...
Wow!
Sorry, I must be missing it here. I hear nothing of that caliber in evidence.
The supposed leap from Bach to this is obviously pure hyperbole.
The solo in Fire Delegation is nothing remarkable...
But, as always, your mileage may vary...
And it also comes with a conspiracy theory!!!
"Human Rights Campaign/Foundation currently under federal investigation
for their backstage business model of blackmail and extortion, not to
mention their genocide conspiracy dating back to 1971 and prior."
And yet, I'm unable to find anything to back this claim. Although, maybe I'm not looking in the right places...
As for me, I'll blissfully continue sleeping through this self-proclaimed "best prog concept arc".
But, all the best to you in your musical endeavors!
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Ooh, did somebody ask for a solid, legitimate source? How about a legal journal!
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