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Psychedelic Paul 
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Totally agree on both 7-album runs.
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A Crimson Mellotron
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Posted: August 19 2021 at 04:55 |
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I was thinking about making a poll on this just yesterday! I will get back with it maybe today.
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miamiscot
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Deerhoof
Ignore the PA ratings because this band is sickening!!! My ratings are way more accurate. From 2002-2012 they were the best band around...
Reveille (2002) 8/10 Apple O' (2003) 10/10 Milk Man (2004) 10/10 The Runners Four (2005) 9/10 Friend Opportunity (2007) 10/10 Offend Maggie (2008) 10/10 Deerhoof Vs. Evil (2011) 8/10 Breakup Song (2012) 9/10 |
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moshkito
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Posted: August 19 2021 at 09:12 |
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Hi, It is always an issue with me ... FZ deserves a lot better than he has gotten from today's audience, but it's difficult as long as we treat all the music into "genres" and do not look at it for its musicality and composition, which FZ would win hands down over most bands anyway ... specially when he started it way before most people listening to radio ever knew about anything else ... and while he was not a huge seller, he was already a fairly good seller in Southern California, and very well known and respected. Forward 50 years, and we think some of the metal stuff is great music, when it's (not always but often) simply loud and making it look like it is musical, when most are just repetition of themes and an even louder solo on the guitar. Maybe one day that guitar will add to the music instead of a solo, no? I look at it as we are not very good at looking at the history of music and its players ... we always seem to compare to what things are like now, and somehow my imagination only sees today's stuff as good and yesterday's stuff as not even worth listening to. It's just strange, making me think that some folks are not into music ... just into the stuff they like. I may not like/enjoy Brahms, but for crying out loud ... he is listed in the music annals for a reason, and it wasn't "metal" or "loudness".
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Argo2112
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Agreed , there are a lot of 5 album runs you could do for Frank. If I were to pick I would probably go with these. ( Studio Albums only) Waka/ Jawaka The Grand Wazoo Over- Nite Sensation Apostrophe' One Size Fits All Edited by Argo2112 - August 19 2021 at 11:00 |
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Sacro_Porgo
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No need to go on an anti-metal tirade about how it's just loud and isn't music. Some of us like both metal and Zappa. They both qualify. Zappa's underrated and probably always will be, and he definitely belongs on this list. So are a lot of metal bands.
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Porg for short. My love of music doesn't end with prog! Feel free to discuss all sorts of music with me. Odds are I'll give it a chance if I haven't already! :)
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verslibre
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Posted: August 19 2021 at 12:04 |
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I like some Pendragon, but some of their later offerings are inconsistent. I can't see them having five in a row, let alone eight.
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moshkito
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Hi, You misunderstand the post. I don't dislike "metal" and have quite a bit of it ... the main issue I have with it is how "metal" is about copy and loudness, and no one else could touch FZ, and even his son's band had a hard time playing it and sounding 2nd rate in a concert series with RTF. If you want music, I doubt that one would select "metal", IN GENERAL. That says nothing about my liking it or not. I was listening to "metal" before you were born, I bet! AND I still have the albums (though some on CD now!).
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Sacro_Porgo
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Well it's pretty difficult to tell that you actually like metal when you seem to be implying it's not music, which is just false. I bet you were listening to it before I was born, good for you.
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Porg for short. My love of music doesn't end with prog! Feel free to discuss all sorts of music with me. Odds are I'll give it a chance if I haven't already! :)
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Posted: August 19 2021 at 23:24 |
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Wobbler: Hinterland - 3.82 Afterglow - 3.85 Rites at Dawn - 4.00 From Silence to Somewhere - 4.37 Dwellers of The Deep - 4.34 Camel: 3.95 - Camel 4.40 - Mirage 4.30 - The Snow Goose 4.39 - Moonmadness 3.64 - Rain Dances If you don't count the Jordsjø/Breidablik album. Jordsjø: 4.08 - Jordsjø 3.86 - Jordsjø II 4.01 - Jord 4.07 - Nattfiolen 3.92 - Pastoralia Karmakanic: 3.61 - Entering the Spectra 3.74 - Wheel of Life 4.06 - Who's the Boss in the Factory? 3.62 - In a Perfect World 3.94 - Dot Opeth has a very impressive catalogue. They got 12 out of 13 consecutive albums over 3.72. The best period: 4.28 - Still Life 4.23 - Blackwater Park 3.79 - Deliverance 3.98 - Damnation 4.24 - Ghost Reveries Gazpacho delivered 8 consecutive albums over 3.75. The best: 4.12 - Night 4.05 - Tick Tock 3.79 - Missa Atropos 4.03 - March of Ghosts 3.85 - Demon Riverside has released seven studio albums and all are at least 3.79, with six of them reaching 4: 4.19 - Out of Myself 4.23 - Second Life Syndrome 3.79 - Rapid Eye Movement 4.21 - Anno Domini High Definition 4.06 - Shrine of New Generation Slaves Caligula's Horse: 3.91 - Moments from Ephemeral City 4.08 - The Tide, the Thief & River's End 3.91 - Bloom 3.96 - In Contact 3.64 - Rise Radiant Haken has six consecutive. 4.06 - Aquarius 4.11 - Visions 4.17 - The Mountain 3.94 - Affinity 3.67 - Vector Phideaux nearly makes it with four consequtive albums past 4, but both ends break the line. |
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Act I: The Lake South, The River North (4.12) Act II: The Meaning Of, And All Things Regarding Ms. Leading (4.04) Act III: Life And Death (4.07) The Color Spectrum (3.85) Migrant (3.76) Act IV: Rebirth In Reprise (4.09) Act V: Hymns With The Devil In Confessional (4.07) |
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richardh
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Posted: August 21 2021 at 03:26 |
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There is not 5 album test , it's not a thing. Complete and utter nonsense. Most bands just churn out a variation of the same idea endlessly. What on earth does that prove?!
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A Crimson Mellotron
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May I add these: -Between the Buried and Me: from 'Colors' (2007) up to 'Colors II' (2021); this makes a streak of six -The Dillinger Escape Plan: from 'Calculating Infinity' (1999) to 'Dissociation' (2016); six albums -Mastodon: from 'Remission' (2002) to 'The Hunter' (2011); five albums
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Zeph
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Posted: August 21 2021 at 04:46 |
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It's just for fun. The "test" is either what OP wrote, which is highly individual, or something like was suggested about having a PA rating limit. Many like variations of the same ideas. This is not a "test" about originality or being able to change the sound.
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moshkito
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Hi, And TO ME, that is the difference between "progressive" and just another copy. It only proves, we could say, that folks might not have any idea about all these other bands anyway. Or their work, and because of their current tastes the ability to actually SIT and appreciate one of the older bands listed that had more difficult and different material (other than just one or two stupid scales or notes for DD to find !!! ). In some ways that's another issue ... you listen to Banco for 5 minutes and there is no metal, and some folks are done listening to Banco as not exciting or interesting. No thrashing! No screams! No showing off that I'm a great guitar player because I'm loud! Ohhh ... forgot one ... No blue guitar! |
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to clarify the OP was suggesting a Test and assuming it's inherent importance. I believe consistency is overrated , and why I think King Crimson were so important than ELP, Yes or Genesis . They had variation of ideas much more so than those bands and perhaps even more importantly influenced contemporary artists and bands. That's a more real test imo.
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Posted: August 22 2021 at 07:32 |
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The test isn't about consistency of ideas, it's about consistency of quality. And King Crimson, in spite of their eclecticism, do have eight consecutive albums above 3.8. |
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Guess i'll cover the world of heavy prog and metal since many artists have not been mentioned yet According to me, not PA! Anekdoten Vemod to Until All The Ghosts Are Gone Between The Buried And Me The Silent Circus to Colors II Borknagar Debut to Empiricism Buckethead Bucketheadland to Somewhere Over The Slaughthouse Probably more but too much to figure out Bumblefoot / Ron Thal The Adventures of Bumblefoot to Abnormal Coroner Punishment For Decadence to Coroner Death Scream Bloody Gore to The Sound of Perseverance Deathspell Omega Si Monumentum Requires, Circumspice to The Furnaces of Palingenesia Devil Doll The Girl Who Was... Death to Dies Irae Enslaved Vikingligr Veldi to Utgard Fates Warning The Spectre Within to Parallels Gojira Terra Incognita to Fortitude Gorguts The Erosion of Sanity to Pleiades' Dust Gorod Neurotripsicks to Æthra Haken Aquarius to Virus Ihsahn The Adversary to Amr Intronaut Void to Fluid Existential Inversions Isis Celestial to Wavering Radiant Leprous Aeolia to Aphelion Marty Friedman Dragon's Kiss to Music For Speeding Mastodon Remission to The Hunter Meshuggah Destroy Erase Imrpove to The Violent Sleep Of Reason Moonsorrow Suden Uni to Jumalten Aika My Dying Bride The Light At The End Of The World to For Lies I Sire Neurosis Souls At Zero to Given To The Rising Ocean, The Fluxion to Panerozoic II Opeth Orchid to In Cauda Venenum Pain of Salvation Entropia to Be Porcupine Tree On The Sunday Of Life to Fear Of A Blank Planet Psychotic Waltz A Social Grace to The God Shaped Void Queensryche Debut EP to Promised Land Rhapsody (of Fire) Legendary Tales to The Eighth Mountain Rush Debut to Grace Under Pressure Shadow Gallery Carved In Stone to Digital Ghosts Sigh Infidel Art to Heir To Despair Symphony X The Divine Wings of Tragedy to Underworld Therion Theli to Gothic Kabbalah Thy Catalfalque Sublunary Tragedies to Vadak That's all i can think of at the moment!
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Posted: August 22 2021 at 11:28 |
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In my opinion, a better way to determine a band's overall quality would be to average out their ratings across their entire discography. Why shouldn't bands be penalized for releasing crap during the tail end of their career?
For each album, multiply the rating by number of seconds giving each album a point total. Add the points and seconds for each album, then divide the total points by the total seconds. Perhaps someone with an interest in statistics and more time than myself might have some fun with this?
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Strawbs with "From the Witchwood" thru "Ghosts" managed 5 straight great albums. "Bursting at the Seams" is the middle one and it may not be a prog fan favourite but it certainly has a lot of fans outside of prog, with allmusic saying its their best album. If you add in the fine Dave Cousins solo album released in the midst of all that, you have 6 different albums of high quality. That they sound so different is striking given that few singers could be mistaken for Dave Cousins. I might even add the previous studio album "Dragonfly"
Eloy from 1976 to 1982 (Dawn thru Time to Turn)...I'm not crazy about "Silent Cries" but many rate it very highly) Moodys from DOFP thru Seventh Sonjourn even though I don't like "On the Threshold" much Camel - Mirage to Breathless. another example of a group that Progressed. I would argue that you could add I can see your House and Nude to that Le Orme from Uomo thru Florian.. I myself don't like Contrapunti but many do. also not content to do the same album over and over Renaissance - Ashes thru A Song for all seasons. some would argue it started one album before with Prologue Anyone's Daughter - Adonis thru Neue Sterne...allowing for the live "Piktors Verwandlungen" (since there was no studio version of this piece) which many regard as their best though it isn't a personal favourite of mine. And they did this albuost entirely in the 1980s Steeleye Span hit their stride with "Below the Salt" and had a more than solid run thru "Rocket Cottage" (6 albums) Mike Oldfield - I don't quite rate Hergest Ridge and Incantations as top shelf but many do, which makes Tubular Bells thru Five Miles out a run of 7. Clannad certainly has 5 excellent albums or more in there, but with a few interruptions like the "just good" "Cran Ull" and "Legend", spanning their debut thru Macalla (8 albums) in non prog realms, I could add groups like Runrig, Oysterband, Newer neo folk groups Corde Oblique and Sangre de Muerdago have both gone on enviable runs I'm sure I am missing many
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