The American Politics Thread

How can I put this diplomatically...if my race felt like it was being exterminated with extreme prejudice, and others were putting their knees on our necks and lead in our bodies...I'd want to burn them down and f#@king kill them as well. But notice the difference in your own statement to the facts. You said "basically try to murder all republicans within a mile of their protests? " Try? Basically? The insurrectionist didn't TRY...they DID ! So how is the angry protests for survival in any way in the same universe as the right wing whiners who are mad because they didn't get their own way in the last election?

Ah, the right wingers who got smacked down by facts in the other thread have jumped to this one to perpetuate their lies. Let's go immedately to the Capital Riots vs BLM. The first action was to innact an injustice by overthrowing, violently, the results of a fair election. The other was a riot against police for arbitrary killing those of their own race. That many of these cops were Republican supporters is part of the reason for their systemic racism. So, a protest against an injustice. No comparison. As for Cindy's empty rant, like much that she says, it's means nothing to those that haven't drank the Republican Cool Aid based on lies.

Edited by SteveG - August 08 2021 at 10:09

JD wrote: How can I put this diplomatically...if my race felt like it was being exterminated with extreme prejudice, and others were putting their knees on our necks and lead in our bodies...I'd want to burn them down and f#@king kill them as well. But notice the difference in your own statement to the facts. You said "basically try to murder all republicans within a mile of their protests? " Try? Basically? The insurrectionist didn't TRY...they DID ! So how is the angry protests for survival in any way in the same universe as the right wing whiners who are mad because they didn't get their own way in the last election?

Cboi Sandlin wrote: JD wrote: How can I put this diplomatically...if my race felt like it was being exterminated with extreme prejudice, and others were putting their knees on our necks and lead in our bodies...I'd want to burn them down and f#@king kill them as well. But notice the difference in your own statement to the facts. You said "basically try to murder all republicans within a mile of their protests? " Try? Basically? The insurrectionist didn't TRY...they DID ! So how is the angry protests for survival in any way in the same universe as the right wing whiners who are mad because they didn't get their own way in the last election? What? The "insurrectionists" didnt kill anybody. All they did was waltz on in there, break a couple of windows, push around a couple of cops and yell a little but. I dont condone what happened but it really wasnt THAT big of a deal. Also, you wanna talk about police brutality? What about the cop who shot and killed a woman during the "insurrection" when she was causing no harm to anybody. Why is nobody talking about that? Oh, theyll cause huge riots over George Floyd, who may or may not have been killed by the lethal amount of drugs in his system! Honestly, its rediculous.

Edited by omphaloskepsis - August 08 2021 at 11:25

Easy Money wrote: According to this police website, 140 officers were injured. https://www.policemag.com/592586/140-officers-were-injured-in-capitol-riot-officials-say

Like I said, they did push around the cops a little bit. But from that article those injuries were very minor. That article is just using jargon to make it sound bad, but it really wasn’t that bad. Some of them got bruises, some of them got hit in the head. But in the BLM riots, cops have been brutally killed several times. I believe there was even a black cop that was killed in a BLM riot

Edited by suitkees - August 08 2021 at 12:08

And some did, later.  This from people who "love the law."

Cboi Sandlin wrote: Easy Money wrote: According to this police website, 140 officers were injured. https://www.policemag.com/592586/140-officers-were-injured-in-capitol-riot-officials-say Like I said, they did push around the cops a little bit. But from that article those injuries were very minor. [EDIT]

WTF ? What news have you been watching/reading?? Oh wait, let me guess Fux News? A few hundred cops against a crowd of a few thousand? Of course they felt their lives were in danger. Plus, they were attacked by that feral mob screaming that they were going to hang people (remember the gallows? Not just a prop or it would have been made out of cardboard) or viciously beating the cops with hockey sticks, crutches, and metal poles. The cops would have been justified to empty their clips into the faces of every one of them, but as one cop said, if he had begun to shoot he and they would have been quickly over run by shear numbers and no amount of ammo could have saved them. The best they would hope for was to take a few of those treasonists with them. But to be honest, from your remarks, you really didn't, or haven't seen or watched the footage. Or perhaps there is a disconnect between your optical nerve and processing centre that doesn't allow you to comprehend what takes place before your very eyes.


Edited by JD - August 08 2021 at 12:35

Look, all that I am trying to say is that it is incredibly hypocritical to act like all republicans are crazy because of a small number of extremists on one occasion. What happened at the capitol was bad, and some of the cops were afraid for their lives, and I understand that. But they were all perfectly fine, besides some injuries. If it was the intention of the “insurrectionists” to kill those cops they would have done that, but they didn’t. They were all just caught up in the moment that was incited by a few extremeists who broke windows and got the crowd all riled up. What happened was bad, but in the end everyone was mostly fine. However, at BLM riots cops have been brutally murdered. The BLM riots are way worse than what happened at the capitol, and nobody can argue against that, it’s just a fact. Now, the main arguement that I am seeing on this forum is that people are saying that the BLM riots are justified while the “insurrection” was not. I do not in the slightest believe that what happened at the capitol was justified, I think that it was wrong for that to happen and the people who caused it should be ashamed. But how are BLM riots justified. What, because of one incident where a black man may have been killed by a cop or maybe the lethal amount of drugs in his system (I honestly don’t know)? That was one incident, it was bad, but it doesn’t mean that all cops are racist. All of the other incidents I have heard of is from a cop killing somebody in self defense, and that person happens to be black. For example, in one of the incidents a woman was accidentally killed by a cop who missed her boyfriend who was shooting at him. It was in self defense that he was shooting at her boyfriend, and he accidentally hit her. It was unfortunate, but not racist. From what I have seen most of the other incidents are mostly similar. People are seeing racism where there is none. So no, the BLM riots are just as unjustified as what happened at the capitol. On one side you have people who are starting riots because of non existent racism (I’m not saying that racism doesn’t exist, I’m just saying that there is not widespread racism in the police system), and on the other side you have people who are starting a riot because of non existent election fraud. Both sides are just as bad, it’s just one side is slightly more violent. That’s basically my point. “Don’t judge the twig in your neighbors eye before removing the log from yours”.