Covid-19 and the madness of crowds |
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Ronstein
Forum Senior Member Joined: October 13 2020 Location: Wiltshire, UK Status: Offline Points: 1280 |
Posted: August 03 2021 at 07:34 | |||
It will give you a degree of immunity that lasts for a period of time. As with all immunity, it depends on the individual. Enough people have caught it twice to confirm that immunity is imperfect and doesn't guarantee you protection. It also wears off over time.
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Easy Money
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin Joined: August 11 2007 Location: Memphis Status: Offline Points: 10669 |
Posted: August 03 2021 at 07:58 | |||
Here is an article about people getting Covid more than once:
https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/11/more-people-are-getting-covid-19-twice-suggesting-immunity-wanes-quickly-some Edited by Easy Money - August 03 2021 at 07:59 |
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omphaloskepsis
Forum Senior Member Joined: October 19 2011 Location: Texas Status: Offline Points: 6456 |
Posted: August 03 2021 at 08:42 | |||
If you can catch Covid after vaccination...What good is vaccination?
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Ronstein
Forum Senior Member Joined: October 13 2020 Location: Wiltshire, UK Status: Offline Points: 1280 |
Posted: August 03 2021 at 08:48 | |||
It significantly reduces the chances of hospitalisation, serious illness or death!!!
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chopper
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: July 13 2005 Location: Essex, UK Status: Offline Points: 20030 |
Posted: August 03 2021 at 08:53 | |||
Exactly, vaccination does not give 100% protection.
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JD
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Posted: August 03 2021 at 08:53 | |||
It keeps you from ending up in the hospital, possibly on a ventilator and possible dead if you do catch it. Don't equate 'CATCHING' Covid with the symptoms where vaccines are concerned. But as previously stated, nothing is perfect, even condoms say only 99.9% effective. I took allergy shots from the age of 5 to 19. They are supposed to help your body build a 'Natural Immunity' to what you are allergic to. But still I'm taken down by three very nasty things.
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omphaloskepsis
Forum Senior Member Joined: October 19 2011 Location: Texas Status: Offline Points: 6456 |
Posted: August 03 2021 at 09:35 | |||
What percentage of people catching Covid twice died?
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Lewian
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Posted: August 03 2021 at 09:43 | |||
Yeah... what good is heart surgery if a few people die anyway?
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SteveG
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Posted: August 03 2021 at 09:58 | |||
Republicans think that the vaccine is BS, politically motivated and won't take it. That might just be the thing that cripples the Republican party in years to come. The loss of voters. How ironic?
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Ronstein
Forum Senior Member Joined: October 13 2020 Location: Wiltshire, UK Status: Offline Points: 1280 |
Posted: August 03 2021 at 10:10 | |||
Darwin was right
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Easy Money
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Posted: August 03 2021 at 10:13 | |||
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omphaloskepsis
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Posted: August 03 2021 at 10:28 | |||
I am a nurse. I get tested for Covid before every shift. I was tested less than 24 hours ago, and I'll be tested again in six hours. I'm trying to ascertain the covid knowledge base of the folks on this thread. That said, I only know of two people who died after contracting Covid a second time. That's seems low to me. Perhaps someone here could update that data? Edited by omphaloskepsis - August 03 2021 at 10:29 |
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progaardvark
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Posted: August 03 2021 at 11:00 | |||
To be fair, not all of them think this way. I have Republican friends and relatives here who got the vaccine as soon as it was available for their age group/job classification. Regrettably, this is a much smaller portion of their voting bloc than Democrats or Independents. But yeah, this could hurt them in future voter turnout depending on how far they go with voter suppression laws and/or the overturning of local election boards.
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SteveG
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Posted: August 03 2021 at 11:07 | |||
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Easy Money
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Posted: August 03 2021 at 11:19 | |||
^ Even here in the 'south', I know plenty of repubs who have their vaccine. The problem is that a lot of repub politicians in the south cater to the ignorant redneck mentality that has become much of their voter base since hollywood donald usurped the party for his own gain and attracted much ignorance and ugliness to the party.
Whats left of the old college educated repubs take covid seriously, its the very vocal ignorant segment that is pulling the strings of sheep like politicians that is the problem, and who get way more media attention than they deserve. Governors DeSantis and Abbot are a disgrace. Edited by Easy Money - August 03 2021 at 11:22 |
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SteveG
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Posted: August 03 2021 at 11:42 | |||
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CosmicVibration
Forum Senior Member Joined: February 26 2014 Location: Milky Way Status: Offline Points: 1396 |
Posted: August 04 2021 at 14:48 | |||
Looking at the VAERS data the number of adverse
effects is much greater than any other vaccine.
The number of deaths is also much higher, it’s probably around 7,000
now. However, if you calculate the number
of people vaccinated, percentage wise it’s still not bad. The other factor is long term effects, which
no-one knows because there is no long-term data yet. I really hope there will be very minimal to
no complications. I don’t see a reason
for anyone that went through covid to gamble on either the short-term risks and
the unknown long-term risks. What should send red flags is all the censorship.
Why are prominent scientists and doctors
being censored, threatened with legal actions as well as personal threats? Our
government has hired the same people that fight terrorist organizations to go
after these individuals. If you suppress
one side, then we all know where that can lead.
You can’t have a once sided debate.. Bret Weinstein and his wife Heather are not
anti-vaxxers and are probably some of the most vaccinated people on the
planet. As biologists they travel all
over the world to places such as the Amazon, hence all the vaccines. When they
first looked at the virus, they had a very strong suspicion that it did not originate
in nature but came from a lab. With all their
credentials they were mocked and censored along with anyone else that didn’t
follow the narrative. Dr. Robert Malone appeared on one of their
podcasts that lasted 3 hours. I was only
able to view 1 hour of it but downloaded it because I knew it would be taken
down. Sure enough, it’s no longer available
on YouTube, but you may be able to find it elsewhere. Dr. Malone build the core platform for mRNA and
was credit as the inventor of the mRNA technology. He was credited but no longer, Wikipedia scrubbed
his name out. His Linkedin account was
shut down along with other backlashes against him. Malone compiled and graphed data as to where the
vaccine travels within a 48-hour period.
It was said that it remains in the site of the injection. However, this is not what the data was
showing him. It travels throughout the body, including bone marrow. Malone states we should be on the lookout for cancer
such as leukemia 5-15 years down the road. He also expresses that this is all unknown,
but we should be cognizant about it and recommended routine testing for early
treatment if necessary. For women there is a very high concentration in the ovaries.
Alarmed, he had the data and graph peer reviewed
after which he sent his findings through the appropriate channels. If I’m not mistaken it was sent to the CDC as
well as other outfits. According to Malone it fell on deaf ears, so he decided
to speak out. I viewed several of Bret’s podcasts called DarkHorse. Although I don’t agree with all his or his guest’s
views, it’s intellectual and thought provoking. At times his guests are not in agreement but
that’s what makes the discussions interesting and challenging. Highly recommended... |
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Tapfret
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin Joined: August 12 2007 Location: Bryant, Wa Status: Offline Points: 8588 |
Posted: August 04 2021 at 19:25 | |||
Tested every shift? Very surprising and the first I have heard of any healthcare facility doing that. That is not something my hospital would, nor probably could ever do. There are hundreds of doctors, nurses, therapists and ancillary staff with direct patient contact. The cost and logistics, even for rapid testing, would be daunting to do that many people at once everyday before they start their shift. How large is your facility? Is it everybody, or just those on covid units? Just RNs and CNA's or everybody? All we do is a standard line item asymptomatic and non-exposure attestation when we come in. Anybody who is symptomatic or has a known exposure initiates testing x2 with 48 hour gap. Quarantine in testing phase, ending if second test negative with symptoms only, continue quarantine if positive or known exposure. I can't remember of hand if they are still doing 14, 10 or 7 days on the quarantine. As far as reinfection mortality, I am not personally aware of any and never inquired or researched beyond some preliminary numbers being floated regarding post-infection immunity.
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siLLy puPPy
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Posted: August 04 2021 at 19:48 | |||
The difference between fully approved by the FDA and authorized by an emergency declaration: The former goes through a series of rigorous testing whereas the latter means that they were rushed through and still going through testing. Only an emergency declaration can allow them to jump the gun.
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siLLy puPPy
Special Collaborator PSIKE, JRF/Canterbury, P Metal, Eclectic Joined: October 05 2013 Location: SFcaUsA Status: Offline Points: 15272 |
Posted: August 04 2021 at 19:50 | |||
You are incorrect about this but i don't have time to debate this. I've seen more than enough evidence to be convinced myself. Sorry but the medical system teaches lots of stuff that has never been proven. For example NOBODY can even prove that the virus exists. It has never been isolated. This has been held up by the Supreme Court in Germany and a similar court case in Alberta, Canada just ruled that there is NO PROOF that the virus exists. You learn what they tell you but that doesn't mean it's correct. There's a reason i left the world of biology as a means for making a living. They have based an entire system on false paradigms.
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