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Poll Question: Which of these four films is your favourite?
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    Posted: July 19 2021 at 13:49
Four "family" films that I loved as a child (two with David Warner, he was also in one of my very favourite horror films, The Omen), which do enjoy the most?

I have enabled multiple votes if one is not enough. Time Bandits and The Dark Crystal especially remain two of my very favourite films, but I can happily return to all of these.







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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Icarium Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 19 2021 at 13:56
As I have chosen a side in the streaming war, i will never be able to watch any of these films, if they all are in Disneh+
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I honestly don't remember seeing The Black Hole. Perhaps I may have watched it in Turkish television channels without knowing its name.

Time Bandits easily, from the list. David Warner rules!

Mio Min Mio is easily the most underrated kids/family movie I know. Imagine a collaboration of the Soviet Union / Norway / Sweden and the villain is Christopher Lee and one of the main actors is a teenager Christian Bale (I guess it was his first ever role)! How come this movie not much known?




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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Shadowyzard Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 19 2021 at 14:21
As for the technology/magic concept, Visionaries: Knights of the Magical Light was one of the best cartoons I've seen. Sadly, our TV's didn't show it and I watched it in my adulthood. Far "adultish" than MotU, I'd say. Merklynn is a fantastic "true neutral" wizard!




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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Logan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 19 2021 at 14:22
Christotoffer: ^ I quite miss video stores.

The Dark Crystal film was on Netflix here. I really enjoyed the series they created a couple of years ago based on it called The Dark Crystal: Age of Resistance.

I have Time Bandits PVred since it showed on a channel I subscribed to called Hollywood on Demand (here in Canada) and it was on Crave TV, which is a Canadian thing that I have.

I don't get Disney+, but might subscribe to it for a little while (I think I can get a free trial, would like to see the Mandalorian). I would imagine that is where Tron and The Black Hole would be most readily found.

If you subscribe to Netflix in Norway, then you might find The Dark Crystal.

Ozgur: I only vaguely remember hearing about that film, and as evidenced by my avatar, I am a Christopher Lee guy. And yes, David Warner rules!
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Argo2112 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 19 2021 at 14:34
Time Bandits, Been wanting to see this one again. It's been a long time. 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Icarium Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 19 2021 at 14:38
Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

Christotoffer: ^ I quite miss video stores.

The Dark Crystal film was on Netflix here. I really enjoyed the series they created a couple of years ago based on it called The Dark Crystal: Age of Resistance.

I have Time Bandits PVred since it showed on a channel I subscribed to called Hollywood on Demand (here in Canada) and it was on Crave TV, which is a Canadian thing that I have.

I don't get Disney+, but might subscribe to it for a little while (I think I can get a free trial, would like to see the Mandalorian). I would imagine that is where Tron and The Black Hole would be most readily found.

If you subscribe to Netflix in Norway, then you might find The Dark Crystal.

Ozgur: I only vaguely remember hearing about that film, and as evidenced by my avatar, I am a Christopher Lee guy. And yes, David Warner rules!
I am a Netflix and HBO Nordic soldier in the streaming war
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Mio min Mio is one of three high fantasy novels written by Astrid Lindgren
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Originally posted by Icarium Icarium wrote:

Mio min Mio is one of three high fantasy novels written by Astrid Lindgren


I heard it (the movie) is an adaptation. Was it (the novel) translated to English?
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Originally posted by Shadowyzard Shadowyzard wrote:

Originally posted by Icarium Icarium wrote:

Mio min Mio is one of three high fantasy novels written by Astrid Lindgren



I heard it (the movie) is an adaptation. Was it (the novel) translated to English?
well its an English (U.K) produced film based out of an
Swedish young adult novel called Mio Min Mio, (Mio, My, Mio), one of Christopher Bales earlyest movies.

The two other fantasy books by Astrid Lindgren is Ronja Röverdotter (Ronja Robber doughter) and Brödrana Leyonhjærta, (Brother Lionheart) both are filmetized into live action, in Swedish, Ronja is even made into an anime.

And to answer your actual question im pretty sure it might be translated into English, Astrid is quite popular actualy.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote verslibre Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 19 2021 at 15:00
I feel compelled to vote for TRON because it's such a cool movie for its time. And Wendy Carlos created a positively engaging electronic score for it (naturally, I own it).

But if I had to pick one to watch right this moment...

The Black Hole

Maximillian. Ernest Borgnine. A fantastic score by John Barry. 1-2-3!

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote verslibre Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 19 2021 at 15:02
Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

The Dark Crystal film was on Netflix here. I really enjoyed the series they created a couple of years ago based on it called The Dark Crystal: Age of Resistance.

A few years ago, I bought The Dark Crystal for my niece. She couldn't stop talking about it for weeks!

Quote And yes, David Warner rules!

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Btw i have seen Dark Crystal twise and part of Tron but not the other two, so I will not vote.but Dark Crystal is very good.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Logan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 19 2021 at 16:35
Originally posted by Icarium Icarium wrote:

Btw i have seen Dark Crystal twise and part of Tron but not the other two, so I will not vote.but Dark Crystal is very good.


Vote or not vote as thou wilt.

The Dark Crystal is an amazing film -- I still find it very moving and it has awed me. If you have yet to watch the Netflix spin-off series, The Dark Crystal: Age of Resistance, I do recommend it. It is quite game of Thrones-ish. I like that they kept with puppeteering. I had hoped that they would do a second season, but apparently Netflix decided not to. It would have been very laborious and expensive to make. I think a cartoon series could work well, too.

As for Tron, I found the sequel, Tron: Legacy (2010) very good as well. It's been interesting with some of the kinds of sequels, continuations (or prequels) that we've had for "classic" films (and TV shows and/or books) over the past years, like with Blade Runner, Tron, the Dark Crystal series, Picard (if that counts), The Shining sequel Doctor Sleep, Twin Peaks...

Time Bandits is brilliant -- proof that Evil can be so very good. ;) I think various people coming into it were disappointed as they were expecting it be more of a Python comedy. I don't think they marketed it as well as they could have. If anyone has an hour to kill, has seen it and has the desire, The Rule of Three is one of my favourite podcasts, and they did Time Bandits. https://play.acast.com/s/ruleofthree/davidquantickontimebandits

I continue to love all four of these films.
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Originally posted by verslibre verslibre wrote:

I feel compelled to vote for TRON because it's such a cool movie for its time. And Wendy Carlos created a positively engaging electronic score for it (naturally, I own it).

But if I had to pick one to watch right this moment... The Black Hole

Maximillian. Ernest Borgnine. A fantastic score by John Barry. 1-2-3!


I love the scores for both of those films. I love the opening and closing music for Time Bandits too. That John Barry The Black Hole soundtrack is one of my very favourites. I think of the big name kind of Hollywood composers, John Barry and Jerry Goldsmith might well be my favourites. I prefer them to John Williams. Of course Wendy Carlos has produced amazingly memorable music, which has become part of my DNA (I adore A Clockwork Orange and The Shining and her music adds considerably to that).

I love The Black Hole. It had a very interesting and fraught production history which I won't get into. It can be quite horrific and very dark (well, it is a black hole *groans*) for a Disney film. I used to have book on it given to my my brother for my birthday around the time it came out, wish I still did.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote verslibre Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 19 2021 at 17:09
Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

Originally posted by verslibre verslibre wrote:

But if I had to pick one to watch right this moment... The Black Hole

Maximillian. Ernest Borgnine. A fantastic score by John Barry. 1-2-3!


I love the scores for both of those films. I love the opening and closing music for Time Bandits too. That John Barry The Black Hole soundtrack is one of my very favourites. I think of the big name kind of Hollywood composers, John Barry and Jerry Goldsmith might well be my favourites. I prefer them to John Williams. Of course Wendy Carlos has produced amazingly memorable music, which has become part of my DNA (I adore A Clockwork Orange and The Shining and her music adds considerably to that).

I prefer them to Williams, too. (My favorite Williams score is Superman. I think it's much better than his Star Wars and Indiana Jones fare, but I fully admit I'm biased.)

My all-time fave orchestral score is Basil Poledouris' Conan the Barbarian. Nothing else comes close for me.

Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

Of course Wendy Carlos has produced amazingly memorable music, which has become part of my DNA (I adore A Clockwork Orange and The Shining and her music adds considerably to that).

Speaking of electronic scores, Goldsmith's for Runaway is brilliant!

Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

I love The Black Hole. It had a very interesting and fraught production history which I won't get into. It can be quite horrific and very dark (well, it is a black hole *groans*) for a Disney film. I used to have book on it given to my my brother for my birthday around the time it came out, wish I still did.

The hardcover book loaded with color stills and full-page images? I used to have it, too. I wonder what happened to it... Ermm
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Originally posted by Verslibre Verslibre wrote:

I prefer them to Williams, too. (My favorite Williams score is Superman. I think it's much better than his Star Wars and Indiana Jones fare, but I fully admit I'm biased.)

My all-time fave orchestral score is Basil Poledouris' Conan the Barbarian. Nothing else comes close for me.


Originally posted by verslibre verslibre wrote:

Speaking of electronic scores, Goldsmith's for Runaway is brilliant!


I saw Runaway in the cinema. Been a long time since I watched it or listened to the soundtrack. I will have to check it out again. I love Goldsmith's incorporation of electronic music in Logan's Run (the movie from whence my username comes and is one of my favourite soundtracks).

I really like Williams' Close Encounters of the Third Kind score.

I love the Conan the Barbarian soundtrack. That's a great one. I re-watched that film recently.

Originally posted by verslibre verslibre wrote:

The hardcover book loaded with color stills and full-page images? I used to have it, too. I wonder what happened to it...


That's the one.
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Time Bandits by many light years. The dialogue is hilarious!

Evil: When I have the map, I will be free, and the world will be different, because I have understanding.
Minion: Uh, understanding of what, Master?
Evil: Digital watches. And soon I shall have understanding of video cassette recorders and car telephones. And when I have understanding of them, I shall have understanding of computers. And when I have understanding of computers, I shall be the Supreme Being! God isn't interested in technology. He knows nothing of the potential of the microchip or the silicon revolution. Look how He spends His time! Forty-three species of parrots! Nipples for men!
Robert: Slugs.
Evil: Slugs! He created slugs. They can't hear! They can't speak! They can't operate machinery! I mean, are we not in the hands of a lunatic?... If I were creating a world, I wouldn't mess about with butterflies and daffodils. I would have started with lasers, eight o'clock, day one! [accidentally zaps a minion, who screams] Sorry.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Logan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 19 2021 at 17:53
I love all of Evil's dialogue, but that is a favourite of mine.

The following conversation stuck with me as a kid (and it wouldn't be for many years that I studied the problem of evil in Philosophy 101).

Kevin: Do you mean you knew what was happening to us all the time?
The Supreme Being: Well, of course. I am the Supreme Being. I'm not entirely dim.
Kevin: You mean you let all those people die just to test your creation?
The Supreme Being: Yes. You really are a clever boy.
Kevin: Why did they have to die?
The Supreme Being: You might as well say, 'Why do we have to have evil?'
Kevin: Yes, why do we have to have evil?
The Supreme Being: Ah, I think it's something to do with free will....

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Randall: Who?
Robin Hood: The poor.
Randall: The poor?
Robin Hood: Oh you must meet them. I'm sure you'll like them. Of course they haven't got two pennies to rub together, but that's because they're poor.


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