Is Yes really Yes anymore? |
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chopper
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Not setting your hopes too high then! I'm sure there are bands around that have no original members but still go around with the same name. I guess it depends on who has legal rights to the name but you do get some stupid situations like Wishbone Ash when there are 2 bands with the same name knocking around. I have no problems if they call themselves Yes but I reserve the right to not buy their CDs now.
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JD
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So I have this car I bought in the 70's. It was a very reliable vehicle...until it wasn't. I started to replace the parts that weren't working anymore. After almost 50 years of replacing parts, sometimes with cheaper knockoffs, can I say it's the same car? Sure it has the same name, but not much else that truly ties it to that classic vehicle I once had. (It's a metaphor by the way) It's a band called Yes...but it is NOT Yes. If they're so confident in their efforts they should rebrand and relaunch.
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chopper
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Yeah, it's Trigger's Broom, but at what point did stop becoming the original car you bought?
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uduwudu
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It all depends on the material. I finally got around to hearing Open Your Eyes a while back. Anderson present for that precursor to Heaven And Earth where he wasn't. Things is classic Yes is involving and not particularly accessible but destination is worth the journey. Usually. So from time to time things don't go so well. I hope they do this time. But they need that combo of inspiring imagination and excitement not make me wonder what Journey are doing. I think Yes is required to be an effective creative force or a tribute band releasing albums of the recent past in concert. I know Squire wanted yes to be the like the Berlin Philly but this is different. With the recording era the old records become the new records to new listeners. Emotional energy not brain dead lethargy. I
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JD
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Actually, it's the ship of Thesus paradox, but I thought that might have been a little obscure for some so I put it in more contemporary terms. To-mate-toe, To-mott-toe.
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Manuel
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Personally I think is quite a different band from the one we love and treasure but, who am I to say if they are or not Yes?
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Mormegil
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Nope . . .
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Welcome to the middle of the film.
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twosteves
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"Sherwood has been very prolific, they probably couldn't have written a new album without him." yeah he has --problem is none of it high quality---he's been with the band forever and all the albums he had anything to do with are not memorable. Cant make great Yes with lots of mediocrity.
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SouthSideoftheSky
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I did see ARW live, and I do consider them to be Yes as well. With such a long and complex band history, there can be more than one Yes at the same time. The more Yes-es the better Sadly, ARW never got around to recording a studio album. |
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SouthSideoftheSky
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No, not really. But it is a brand new studio Yes album, so of course I will buy it I have all of their albums, and will not hesitate to add this new one to my collection as soon as it is out. |
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The one that comes to mind is Foreigner.......We saw them in summer 2019 (I also saw Foreigner back in '82), although it was a great show because it was a setlist of hit song after hit song, not a single musician is from the original lineup. Mick Jones only shows up for the big shows, everyone else in the current band joined in the early 2000s. Essentially it is a cover band now.......You are going to see a bunch of great musicians playing songs they had nothing to do with originally.......so yea I voted NO.
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Less is more, or yes is no... that is the question. — WouldIwas Shookspeared
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SteveG
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Where is the poll choice for "maybe"?
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Logan
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Wouldn’t “I don’t know “ cover that? |
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Nogbad_The_Bad
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Agreed
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SouthSideoftheSky
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Anderson Bruford Wakeman Howe was Yes in all but name, and the album they did sounds totally like Yes to me. Yet they did that without Squire. |
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Wait I thought it was the other way around, where Mick Jones only didn't show up like a couple of times and otherwise he's usually there... that's dang embarrassing. That's not Foreigner.
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Porg for short. My love of music doesn't end with prog! Feel free to discuss all sorts of music with me. Odds are I'll give it a chance if I haven't already! :)
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I think that proves that it doesn't really come down to any one member. The combination of players has to be good enough. I'd say at the time ABWH was a thing, both bands had a lineup I'd say is probably good enough to be Yes (hence Union). What one group lacked in Jon Anderson the other lacked in Chris Squire, and both featured mostly members from the classic run.
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Porg for short. My love of music doesn't end with prog! Feel free to discuss all sorts of music with me. Odds are I'll give it a chance if I haven't already! :)
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Argo2112
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I went and saw them a few years ago just after Chris had passed away. I was an OK show but without Anderson, Squire & Wakeman it's just not the same.
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The Dark Elf
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No. When you're relegated to playing on cruise ships after playing in stadiums, you are for all intents and purposes a cover band. What's next, bowling allies, weddings and Bar Mitzvahs?
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