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Peter Gabriel: Peter Gabriel 1 (aka Car) |
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The Dark Elf 
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You could have titled most of those Chicago albums anything you'd like. They still would have sucked.
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...a vigorous circular motion hitherto unknown to the people of this area, but destined
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AFlowerKingCrimson
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Posted: July 03 2021 at 13:36 |
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Probably my favorite by him but I haven't heard it in a long time.
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ExittheLemming
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Posted: July 03 2021 at 21:57 |
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I saw Peter Gabriel live at the Glasgow Apollo in '77 and thought it a superb show. From memory (probably now faulty) Tony Levin was on bass and someone told me that Robert Fripp played guitar but from off stage? I bought the album shortly afterwards but found it a very uneven release and (hear) no cause to change my mind 44 years hence. In mitigation, Solsbury Hill and Here Comes the Flood remain two of the finest songs in Peter's solo career to date. His next three albums were better but differentiating between them in discussion by having to use Car, Scratch, Melt & Security just becomes irritating and yet another instance of PG's fondness for being willfully opaque. Even Fripp wasn't overly keen on Bob Ezrin's production: I do not like the first album’s production at all. It is vulgar, it
lacks subtlety, it is too American and, most of all, it totally misses
the essence of Peter Gabriel (This rodent has to agree and the album would scrape into 3 star status by virtue of about 4 songs) Edited by ExittheLemming - July 03 2021 at 22:10 |
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Sacro_Porgo
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Posted: July 03 2021 at 23:33 |
I'll grant you I've never heard it myself and can't attest to its disco-ness anymore than I can my own view on its quality. However I will say Wikipedia doesn't seem to agree that sales were poor, unless you're comparing them to sales of their previous albums. From wikipedia: "The album was released in October 1978, preceded by a release of the lead single "Alive Again". Hot Streets was another hit for the group, who had been concerned that the public might not accept them without Kath. Although the album went platinum, and Chicago scored a second top-twenty hit with "No Tell Lover", Hot Streets was the first Chicago album since their debut that failed to reach the US Top 10; fittingly, the band's twelfth album peaked at #12." #12 instead of making the top ten, sure that's disappointing, but it did still go platinum. I think it's more in hindsight that it's been looked poorly upon, or at least the opinion that it isn't good didn't become the majority opinion until much later. But anyway all I meant to say was that it doesn't feel like much of a coincidence to me that Chicago's most often derided album also happens to be the only one where they fully ditched the number thing.
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Sacro_Porgo
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Posted: July 03 2021 at 23:37 |
Oh I recall agreeing about the production. After putting out some intensely well produced albums with Genesis, and prior to putting out some (arguably more) intensely well produced solo albums, Car feels very out of place. Instruments don't tend to gel with each other, drums don't tend to feel of a piece with guitars and pianos and vocals. And that barbershop quartet is quite loud.
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Porg for short. My love of music doesn't end with prog! Feel free to discuss all sorts of music with me. Odds are I'll give it a chance if I haven't already! :)
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richardh
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PG always had some 'different' ideas about production. He needed to distance himself from the polished sound of Genesis and he did that perfectly. Cars is chock full of great songs my favourite Down The Dolce Vita where he even cleverly stole (or borrowed) some of Genesis pomposity and did it better than them!!
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chopper
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Posted: July 05 2021 at 04:17 |
Interesting, I wasn't really keen on PG2 when it first came out but I like it a lot more now, I might even give it a listen now. PG1 is a solid 4 star album for me, but I would rate PG4 as his best.
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Peter Gabriel I isn't my favorite album from Gabriel, but is nevertheless a great solo debut album. "Solsbury Hill" is one of my favorite songs of all time. "Moribund the Burgermeister" is very Genesis-y and theatrical; I love it. "Humdrum" is an underrated Peter Gabriel song, and the Plays Live version is even better in my opinion. The rest of the album is a bit weak for me. That's not to say I don't like any of the other songs. I much prefer the stripped down version of "Here Comes the Flood" with just piano and vocals over the grandiose version that's found on this album. I would probably rate this album three stars.
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Posted: July 30 2023 at 07:53 |
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Moribund the Burgermeister used to scare me when I was a kid.
My favourite Peter Gabriel album, Solsbury Hill is just sublime.
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