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Poll Question: Which team do you support?
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Originally posted by ExittheLemming ExittheLemming wrote:

Originally posted by Shadowyzard Shadowyzard wrote:

Originally posted by ExittheLemming ExittheLemming wrote:

Not sure why you deduce that Hungary at home to France in temperatures > 30 degrees will somehow favour the eastern europeans? LOL France, albeit outside their normal arctic climate, very fortunate to get a draw. Brilliant performance by Hungary


Bad field, unusual conditions etc. affect the "dominator" or technically superior teams more, and in a bad way. Yes, France has a hotter climate, but they shouldn't be used to playing at 13:00 P.M. and in 30°C that much. 


Yes, the obstacles of an even grass surface, a round ball and a hot sunny day are clearly the great 'levellers' that mud, wind, rain and a passionate home support used to be. You are clearly completely clueless about football.


Oh you're jumping to some ridiculous conclusions... Ever thought of using a rabbit avatar?
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No I haven't. Is it because you know more about football than rabbits?
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Originally posted by Nogbad_The_Bad Nogbad_The_Bad wrote:

Great result for Hungary pity they couldn't hang on, makes the group of death interesting

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Was gonna say ... France could have wrapped things up and instead slept through it. One bad result and they will not go far, and get a tough team to play in the next round instead of an easier one!
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Originally posted by ExittheLemming ExittheLemming wrote:

No I haven't. Is it because you know more about football than rabbits?


Let me be clear here... Being clueless about something encompasses FAR MORE than a single wrong judgment, if mine was wrong at all. It could be... I'll not deny it.

Yet you, beyond a shadow of a doubt, jumped to a ridiculous conclusion. FACT.
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Originally posted by moshkito moshkito wrote:

Originally posted by Nogbad_The_Bad Nogbad_The_Bad wrote:

Great result for Hungary pity they couldn't hang on, makes the group of death interesting


Hi,

Was gonna say ... France could have wrapped things up and instead slept through it. One bad result and they will not go far, and get a tough team to play in the next round instead of an easier one!


They may not be too worried about finishing 2nd as they'd play the winners of the England-Croatia-Scotland-Czech group.
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Germany sorted themselves out. Portugal back line looked old and slow. Got to cut off Germanys supply lines on the wings.
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Quite happy and satisfied with all the results and the quality of the first two games today. The Germany - Portugal match was typical. Not surprised in the least. Germany is always a threat to any team. And Spain couldn't win! It was very fun to watch how they played, or couldn't! Party
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Lewandovski's goal was a classic strikers header. What a horrible penalty.
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Originally posted by Nogbad_The_Bad Nogbad_The_Bad wrote:

Lewandovski's goal was a classic strikers header. What a horrible penalty.


And again a clear penalty of Poland was not given in the first quarter of the match, and Lewandowski disputably committed a foul just before his header goal.

OK. I hereby declare that I'll try very hard not to be "the penalty guy" of PA again. LOL

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In all honesty and fairness, I wished that Hungary and Turkey could have swapped their groups... We (Turkey) were doomed to fail in any group in this period, whereas Hungary would have a fantastic chance in our group!

They still stand a fair chance though; and if they manage to qualify for the second stage, I'll heartily applaud them.

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Gotta say I'm surprised. I thought Loew's time is more than over, hoping to replicate his world cup winning football in the last seven years with a squad that is less and less up for it, but suddenly they can put it on again. Awesome! I'm following the football for about 50 years and still am crap at predictions (sorry Italy I'm optimistic for you but that doesn't mean much).

France won't worry too much about that draw, In Germany we say "a good horse doesn't jump any higher than it has to" - at the end France will be in the round of 16 and Hungary will be out, despite the earlier match. (But don't forget, I'm crap at predictions.)
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^ I think they even have Loew's successor in place (Hansi Flick?) We've all learned that you write off Germany at your peril.


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Originally posted by ExittheLemming ExittheLemming wrote:

^ I think they even have Loew's successor in place (Hansi Flick?) We've all learned that you write off Germany at your peril.

Yes, Flick will do it. Probably a good choice. My personal opinion was that Loew had to go at the very latest after losing 0-6 against Spain, but what can I say... Obviously if they now go on playing as in WC 2018 or the later Nations League, my earlier views will be confirmed, but if they go on like yesterday, everything is possible.


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Originally posted by Shadowyzard Shadowyzard wrote:

Quite happy and satisfied with all the results and the quality of the first two games today. The Germany - Portugal match was typical. Not surprised in the least. Germany is always a threat to any team. And Spain couldn't win! It was very fun to watch how they played, or couldn't! Party

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My thoughts are that the Portuguese coaches did not realized how the Germans could/would use their aerial bombardment and take over the game. Portugal did not close down the sides much and paid dearly for it ... very poor coaching and adjustments in my book and it should have been handled half time, but they did not change anything and when Germany saw the lanes open, why not? Take it home!

Well deserved win, and also a much better coaching job seeing that Portugal was enamored with doing things through the middle because they really did not have an aerial game! And defended like they played! Badly!
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^ Headers and attacking organisations thereof is Germany's biggest offensive asset and strength; and when they are in good shape and can mingle their composure with motivation, it is VERY HARD to stop them. History has proven this many times.
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Gotta shutdown the wing play with Germany.
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Gotta shutdown the wing play with Germany.
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Turkey's defence is like a Swiss cheese. Hard to believe how much they allow.
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The most deplorable things in the championship so far: Turkey and VAR. And neither surprised me today. (You know what VAR did today again, too.) Yet, VAR will see the final match. This is not fair! LOL
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I don't remember my country (Turkey) being this terrible in any football tournament. At least, I haven't witnessed such a disaster myself, BEFORE! I've been a football fan for about the last quarter century. I had been following football since a couple of years before then too, but I became a real football fan with Euro 96. It actually began with buying the sticker album of that tournament and buying many stickers for the completion of the entire collection. It was very fun... and costly. Costly, not solely because of the fact that they were really expensive, but also because one had to buy the stickers in packages including 5 cards; and you never knew what those sticker cards were before unpacking! Lots of "same card!" frustrations went with it, for sure. Bartering with friends helped, but still I had to spend a fortune for that!

1996 was also the inception of the uniquely fantastic period of my team Galatasaray. Those were the years, my friends!!!

 Anyway, we were unimaginably incompetent in this competition. I don't feel shame at such things, yet it is still very unpleasant...

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