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I put all the videos so far in one playlist.
https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PL-zzvl_w6Fx43oROOYgSzHYoVA0dnm8RO 49 tunes so far and 20 participants by my count. Impressive for 1 day. |
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My selection. N. 1 Tiziana Ghiglioni is a jazz singer who collaborates with very refined musicians. She has released an album in which she sings songs by Luigi Tenco, a singer-songwriter of the Italian melodic school who committed suicide in 1967. Tenco was characterized by compositions with often sad and cynical lyrics, but tinged with irony, for example in a song, I fell in love with you, he sang as the second verse: Because I had nothing to do. Very strange for the Sixities! Tenco also, despite being a traditional singer, often sang his songs without following the tempo, in a jazz style. In this song, Tiziana Ghiglioni repeats the refrain with always different emotional nuances, which express the feeling of the song. Se stasera sono qui - If I'm here tonight If I'm here tonight
It's because I love you
It's because you need me, even if you don't know it
If I'm here tonight
It is because I know how to forgive
And I don't want to throw away my love for you
For me to come here
It was like climbing the highest mountain in the world
And now that I'm here
I want to forget the saddest memories down there
If I'm here tonight
It's because I love you
It's because you need me, even if you don't know it
If I'm here tonight
It's because I love you
It's because you need me, even if you don't know it
(If I'm here tonight) Edited by jamesbaldwin - May 26 2021 at 12:05 |
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jamesbaldwin
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My selection, N. 2
Ginevra di Marco: Ederlezi I love this song, I love Di Marco's voice, she is a wonderful singer. Ederlezi is a traditional folk song in the Romani language of the Rom (Sinti) people of the Balkans, mainly in Serbia.
The title refers to the Serbian holiday of Đurđevdan (Ђурђевдан), called Ederlezi in the Romani language, which falls on May 6 and celebrates spring.
The song Ederlezi has become famous because it is the soundtrack to a beautiful scene of a film by Emir Kusturica, Times of the Gypsies Lyrics: Same amala oro kelena Oro kelena dive kerena Sa o Roma (Amaro dive Amaro dive, Ederlezi Ej... ah...) Sa o Roma, babo, babo Sa o Roma, o daje Sa o Roma, babo, babo Ej, Ederlezi Sa o Roma, daje Sa o Roma babo, E bakren cinen. A me coro, dural besava. A a daje, amaro dive. Amaro dive erdelezi. Ediwado babo, amenge bakro. Sa o Roma, babo. E bakren cinen. Eeee... j, Sa o Roma, babo babo, Sa o Roma daje. Sa o Roma, babo babo, Erdelezi. Erdelezi, Sa o Roma Daje. Eeee... Sa o Roma, babo babo, Sa o Roma daje. Sa o Roma, babo babo, Eeee... Erdelezi, Erdelezi. Sa o Roma daje Here's to you the piece of the film by Kusturica (music arranged by Goran Bregovic) Translation_ Spring lands on my shoulder, thrush verdant, for everyone but me. The streets are gone, I stayed, there is no star of Venus, my fellow-roader. Who now, my dear, smells of thrush, I never again. here dawn, to God I bow, here is the dawn is Djurdjevdan (Ederlezi) and I I'm not with the one I love, that his name be remembered every two days except in Djurdjevdan. Edited by jamesbaldwin - May 26 2021 at 12:40 |
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jamesbaldwin
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My selection, n. 3
Ginevra di Marco - Vedrai Vedrai, song written by Luigi Tenco (again!) in I love this song! Love, love, love... I love the vocals. Ginevra is wonderful... She gives me chills. This is a sad song... sad and desperate... but in the end there is the hope: You will see: it will change Vedrai, Vedrai... You'll See, You'll See When I go home in the evening
I don't even want to talk.
Don't look at me with that tenderness
as if I were a child who returns disappointed.
Yes, I know that this is certainly not life
that I dreamed of one day for us.
You'll see you'll see,
you will see that it will change,
maybe it won't be tomorrow,
but one day it will change.
You'll see you'll see
I'm not finished, you know,
I can't tell you how and when
but you will see that it will change.
I'd rather know you cry
that you reproach me for having disappointed you
and I don't always see yourself so sweet
accept everything that comes from me
It makes me desperate to think of you
and think of me that I don't know how to give you more.
You'll see you'll see,
you will see that it will change,
maybe it won't be tomorrow,
but one day it will change.
You'll see you'll see
I'm not finished, you know,
I can't tell you how and when
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My selection, n. 4
Tori Amos - Northern Lad Tori Amos, I am in love with Tori Amos. Listen to that voice, sensual ... it is not enough to say sensual, it is a voice that smells of sex in every syllable, but not vulgar sex: passionate, orgasmic sex, it seems in fact that Tori Amos sings in the throes of a slow, sweetly, savored orgasm. She drives me crazy. Edited by jamesbaldwin - May 26 2021 at 12:30 |
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First listen-through reactions and notes:
Lorenzo:
Tiziana Ghiglioni “Se stasera sono qui”
An intimate song, piano and vocal alone start the piece. There is a feeling of wistfulness. I kind of get the feeling that the woman may
be ruefully laughing at herself. She
should have known the guy was going to stand her up, maybe? Saxophone comes in for a solo, definitely
feeling of a darkened bar, late at night, to me. Song ends, still on a wistful note, with the
saxophone commiserating with the singer.
Ginevra
di Marco “Ederlezi” Live piece,
here. Percussion and effected guitar and
bass open the song. Again, I have no
idea what she’s singing about but, wow!
There is an electric folk-ish feel here, hypnotic vocals parrying with
the band. A more rock feel comes along,
it reminds me much of Tri Yann, who I like very much. Next, another by Genivra,
“Vedrai Vedrai” Keyboards start this,
will it be much like the last, or something completely different? It is quite a bit different, but of course,
the same person singing. This is a more
polished sort of piece, to my ear. Also a wistful one, perhaps missed chances
that are regretted? Tori Amos “Northern
Lad” Tori I know very well, but I do
love this song. I have a signed and
framed poster from her of this album cover (carried her on our buses and she
knew I was a big fan). She’s actually
under a huge piece of glass, in case anyone wonders how they got that
effect. I think this time around, I like
The “Ederlezi,” piece the most, although they all are beautiful, I like the
spiritedness of that one. The Anders: Katinka “Idioter” This has a dark feel that I quite like, an evocative voice and minimal accompaniment behind her. It is very moving, I agree. There is a feeling of menace, as indeed is also depicted in the video with the young girl. The singer is very expert at creating a sound of anguish and desperation. Thumbs up for this one. I Prophesy Disaster: Helium Horse Fly “Adrift” Another ominous, dark feeling one. Electric guitar with slightly dissonant notes starts and a quavery vocal. Jarring guitar for a moment, then back to the solo guitar. The vocal is usually kind of half-spoken. There is a sense of being adrift, in the music, so it suits the title. It occasionally lapses into heavy territory, but doesn’t remain there. I find it most interesting at the 6+ minute mark, where it verges into psychedelia for a moment. It goes off into complete dissonance for a bit. It end with just the vocalist and some chunky chords with a feeling of non-resolve. MortSahlFan: Welcome to these polls. 😊 Curved Air “Lovechild” Now here’s something I haven’t heard in a long time. Pretty, pretty violin starts with Sonja Kristina’s prog/folk-rock vocals. Full band kicks in and we enjoy some changes in tempo and dynamics. Sucker for violin mixed with electric guitars that I am, great addition, here, but I like the band more than the vocals (and know the tune, so I don’t vote “for,” those, even if they’re a personal favourite). Illusion “Madonna Blue” Nice duet with electric band…another sort of prog/folk feel to my ear. There is a nice classical sort of break at 2:30-ish, which is reminiscent of Strawbs’ “Down By The Sea.” They do another piano solo type break at slightly after 4 mins. Excellent interplay of guitar and keys lead to the fadeout. This is my fave of the two, and previously unheard. Logan: Catherine Ribeiro “Jusqu’à Ce Que La Force De T’aimer Me Manque (with Alpes)” This has a feeling of exaltation to me, but perhaps also some wish that things could be different. Very folk-ish, the woman sings freely and with abandon. Edda Dell'Orso “Cosa avete fatto a Solange?” (Ennio Morrione) Very pretty piano and strings that accent, with orchestra swell, then smooth voiced singer trilling. Pretty little plinkies here and there. This one has no lyrics, the voice is used as an instrument, and very lovely and haunting, it is. (Jane) Jarboe “Blackmail” (with Swans) More ominous sounds, a feeling of bleakness. Very subdued guitar with a sort of lazy,sultry vocalist. Nico “Ari’s Song” Here is one I know already. This was a very interesting album for the time, not really my thing, but I can hear the appeal and it was quite innovative. There’s a funereal sense to this song, so I do appreciate the emotion in it. Raff: Kate Bush “Pull Out The Pin” Excellent choice, however familiarity won’t let me vote for her. I agree with Mike, later, who says someone like this, if one voted for what one knew, would give her an unfair advantage to lesser-knowns. Which is not to say that one can’t, I just have made that a general personal rule, since I’m not sure if I like a piece better because I’m already familiar with it and have a good opinion already. Same with Joni Mitchell’s excellent song, “Edith and the Kingpin” Now here’s a new one to me, Milva “Alexanderplatz” Very deep voiced woman, just gorgeous voice. Minimal accompaniment, very moving piece. I really love hearing her confessional tone here, very dramatic delivery on the choruses. Kees: Mecano “Une femme avec une femme” Very pretty voiced woman with piano. (Synth) strings are lush and support the piece perfectly. And agree with the sentiment, consenting adults, no one else’s business anyway. Henryk Gorecki “Symphony n° 3: Symphony of Sorrowful Songs, 2nd movement, with Zofia Kilanowicz (Soprano)” So very beautiful. What a sad back story to the prayer, so moving. Lots of restraint in the piece and the vocalist’s delivery, she has amazing vocal contro (not surprising, given the role and setting, but still). Definitely chills territory about 5:30. Both are excellent, but this is sublime and I’ve never heard it before (even with a lot of classical listening background). Hiram: Lau Nau “Juokse sinä humma” Percussive beginning with bass and pizzicato strings. Light and swift vocals. I enjoy this very much, like the folkiness of it….it picks up quite a bit about halfway in with woongly violin?, I think, or another type of folk instrument, perhaps. I know of some other folk songs where the gender isn’t changed to suit the singer, so don’t mind that at all. Great choice. PJ Harvey “To Bring You My Love” Someone who I know I should know more of, yet don’t. Piece starts with a repeating electric guitar line, or perhaps on bass. Deep voice with a fair amount of distorted effect going on. Reminds me a bit of Joan Osborn’s grittiness on “Pensacola,” which I almost brought here, but thought she might be too known. There is quite a bit of intensity here, organ joins in after a while, to support the underlying guitar and percussion. Another great choice. Sonic Youth “No Queen Blues” More wongliness, but this time in a punkish style with muddy production, doubtless intentional. Not hearing a female vocalist, though, and I’m pretty sure I’m not unmistaken this time. Easy
Money: Billie Holiday “Strange Fruit” Classic song, too familiar to vote on it, but
it certainly fits the bill. Gives me
chills every time I hear it. Chopper:
Susanne Sundfør “Undercover
Edit” Very sultry voice, has a
bit of that babyish sound and sometimes going into that diva-ish thing with
multiple notes where one would do, that
I’m not particularly fond of, but she keeps it all at bay enough to keep my
interest. Lovely vocal range. Well produced, as well. Gentle
and Giant: Sinéad
O'Connor “Nothing Compares 2 You”
One of my favourite singers, so too familiar to vote for it, but
certainly a perfect addition to the polls if someone missed it along the way. Absolutely impassioned and perfect delivery. Progishness: Annie
Haslam “Going Home” Here you have one of
my favourite vocalists from my favourite album of hers, the Roy Wood produced “Annie
In Wonderland.” Can’t vote for it, but
it is stellar, if others haven’t heard it.
Curved Air “It Happened Today”
Early progressive/folk/rock sort of act, I know of them, but haven’t
really heard all that much of them. This
one is more straight-ahead rock than the other one brought here, I prefer the
other one, although I love the violin break part. Big Brother and the Holding Company “Piece of
My Heart” To me, this absolutely defines
an impassioned woman vocal piece. Janis
Joplin pulled no punches and was completely uninhibited, this is my favourite
album, as I like the rawness of BB&HC, it suits her so well. Doris Day “Perhaps, Perhaps, Perhaps”
Another favourite, as far as the person, but haven’t heard the
song. What a fun song, she had such a
great voice, and was also just so charming.
An excellent choice. JD: Edith
Piaf “non, je ne regrette rien” This is
done is signature Piaf style, very much to it’s time and place. I do know the piece, but it’s a great choice. moshkito: Fairport
Convention “One More Chance” Certainly the incomparable Sandy Denny deserves a place here, a perfect choice, and one that I know, I did
consider her, as well. Very glad you
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Thank you very much, Nickie. You were too fast! I had not yet put the lyrics and the explanation of my songs.
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Thank you for your always excellent and thoughtful comments! You're right about the Sonic Youth song and I got it mixed up with another song of theirs from the same album. Will fix it right away. I really should not trust my memory nowadays.
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Kate Bush - As I said before, I love her and am a devoted fan, so I can't vote for her, but I absolutely love this track (one of my favs) Joni Mitchell - I am familiar with some of her excellent work, but I don't know this one. It's definitely progressive and complex, well written and a great contender. Milva - Great vocals, but I find it a bit to poppy to appeal to me.
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Kees - Both of these selections have one thing in common, an amazing use of restraint, which is an excellent thing. In a lot of pop music, it seems like everyone has to be a diva, and so they yell and scream and carry on thinking it brings more emotion to a song, but all it does it take away from the music putting the emphasis on the singer, not the music. Many a song has been ruined because of this. Mecano - lovely vocals and orchestration. Nice, emotional and pleasantly restrained. Zofia Kilanowicz - Beautiful vocals and amazing control. Both of your entries are great.
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Many thanks Mike and Nickie for the write-ups; very much appreciated.
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Lau Nau - I really really like this one. Nice tone in her voice and great instrumentation especially with the sudden crescendo which goes into some unexpected directions and the amazing wordless vocals bring is all back around again. You said this is a traditional song, well, this is an amazing arrangement that makes the song their own. This is a definite contender, I'm telling you right now that it might be a hard one to beat. PJ Harvey - This is an artist that I am just recently getting into. Great development and use of her vocals building tension. Pretty good, but I still prefer your first selection. Sonic Youth - I've heard enough of them to know what their music is about and I am always intrigued by it. I don't know this track. I love the noise and dissonance that lies under the surface of their music to give you that uneasy feeling, and it always seems to make it to the forefront of the song just like it does on this one. I really like this track, but again, it's hard to beat that first selection. Great choices!
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@The Anders - Idioter is a song with a Nordic and cold charm, based on electronic sounds (which do not excite me but may be appropriate) and above all on the cold and cutting voice, and perhaps a little mechanical and delusional when it becomes acute, oblique, of the singer, a sinister mood. Very good.
---- @I Prophesy Disaster
Adrift - very long song, mini suite, atmospheric, good composition, exciting more for the musical progression than for the female voice, but still great prog-style song
-------- @MortSahlFan
Lovechild (Curved Air) is a beautiful and very enjoyable pop-rock song.
Madonna Blue is a good song, musically enthralling, I especially like the instrumental piece conducted by the piano. But I wouldn't vote for it because I don't like the vocals.
---- @Logan
Paix - I always like to listen to French in songs, here the female voice is very austere, and in some moments it reminded me of the Swiss yodel.
Morricone - It's not one of her most famous columns, but you feel the epic touch of him. Blackmail - I know little about the Swans, I have listened to them but not in a precise way. The female voice is very remarkable. The song is evocative and pleasant but too intangible to excite me
Nico: I have already voted once for Nico, in these polls and as I have said several times I unconditionally love Desert Shore and Marble Index, I consider them absolute masterpieces, thanks also to John Cale, who arranged the music. Here, my consideration: this music can obviously give great emotions, of various types and depending on the person, but allow me Logan my (subjective!) consideration: the voice of Nico and the arrangement by Cale, together, in my opinion give as effect an "estrangement" (I hope this is the right word) as happens in Bertolt Brecht's theater, that is, they produce a distancing from the emotional participation of the scene, of the opera (the song), a kind of alienation, which the listener feels (and which makes this music great). So, from a certain point of view, Nico / Cale's work moves in the opposite direction to that of producing an effect of emotional involvement that passes from the interpreter to the listener. What do you think about my consideration? Edited by jamesbaldwin - May 26 2021 at 16:48 |
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A big thank you to TCat, Nickie and Lorenzo for your comments on "Idioter"
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Mike, here's to you my thoughts: Charming Hostess - The first song is a very rhythmic pop-blues based on the singer's vocals and on the background guitars. The rhythm is so free-range that sometimes it reminded me of an Italian tarantella. It is a very enjoyable song. The second song has a less conventional arrangement, with prog-style choirs, excellent oblique sound with the violin, the greatest value I see in the composition and arrangement, more than in the vocals, which however are to be considered as a whole, in their intertwining, coming to provide a wide range of sounds and sensations. This song seems remarkable to me, I could vote for it. Anathema - The song by Anathema is certainly more emotional than the previous two, romantic, melodic, it is sober and moving. Archive - The song by Archive has a refrain repeated many times to emphasize the melody that then arrives powerful, with an important arrangement, with symphonic implications, perhaps a little overproduced. In reality, the singer's voice is enough to move. Here we move within the context of a gripping, tear-jerking melody. Overall, I think the second song, due to its musical genius, could be a serious candidate for my podium, even if it is not an emotional song in the classic sense. Alternatively, the fourth song could be another contender: it has a beautiful melody and a female vocals that in a concert at the stadium would move many people with the lit lighter in their waving hands. |
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