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Originally posted by Frenetic Zetetic Frenetic Zetetic wrote:

Originally posted by Catcher10 Catcher10 wrote:

Originally posted by verslibre verslibre wrote:

I don't think it's fair to compare Rush (or Yes or Genesis or King Crimson or Kansas or Utopia or Happy the Man, etc.) to the fusion and jazz-rock groups, and vice versa.

I don't expect bands like Rush, Tangerine Dream, Weather Report, Goblin and Santana to all scratch the same itch, which is why I listen to them all. Different vibes. "Different hearts beat on different strings."

It's okay if Rush isn't for you. But to return to the thread just to say Rush "isn't good prog" is just stirring the pot, no? 

Yup, agree.......He's putting up two polar opposite genres and styles of playing against each other.

Holy sh*t this forum is D E N S E.

It's porg, what do you expect!
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Guys we have to argue RUSH are prog but don't compare them to other prog bands that's not fair, lmao.

WHAT THE f**k.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote cstack3 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 22 2021 at 01:02
Originally posted by Catcher10 Catcher10 wrote:

Originally posted by verslibre verslibre wrote:

I don't think it's fair to compare Rush (or Yes or Genesis or King Crimson or Kansas or Utopia or Happy the Man, etc.) to the fusion and jazz-rock groups, and vice versa.

I don't expect bands like Rush, Tangerine Dream, Weather Report, Goblin and Santana to all scratch the same itch, which is why I listen to them all. Different vibes. "Different hearts beat on different strings."

It's okay if Rush isn't for you. But to return to the thread just to say Rush "isn't good prog" is just stirring the pot, no? 

Yup, agree.......He's putting up two polar opposite genres and styles of playing against each other.

I just LOVE to get you Rush guys riled up!!  LOL  I don't think there is another band on this site that engenders such loyalty!  

We all have our own favorites, and that's how it should be.  

Prog is good, even Rush.  Peace! 
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That's all well and good, but what about Geddy's falsetto?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote verslibre Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 22 2021 at 10:51
Originally posted by Frenetic Zetetic Frenetic Zetetic wrote:

Guys we have to argue RUSH are prog but don't compare them to other prog bands that's not fair, lmao.

WHAT THE f**k.

Sounds like you've lost the plot, FZ. This isn't about other bands, this is about other genres.

But go ahead and compare Rush to the B-52's. Be my guest. LOL
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Originally posted by cstack3 cstack3 wrote:

Originally posted by Catcher10 Catcher10 wrote:

Originally posted by verslibre verslibre wrote:

I don't think it's fair to compare Rush (or Yes or Genesis or King Crimson or Kansas or Utopia or Happy the Man, etc.) to the fusion and jazz-rock groups, and vice versa.

I don't expect bands like Rush, Tangerine Dream, Weather Report, Goblin and Santana to all scratch the same itch, which is why I listen to them all. Different vibes. "Different hearts beat on different strings."

It's okay if Rush isn't for you. But to return to the thread just to say Rush "isn't good prog" is just stirring the pot, no? 

Yup, agree.......He's putting up two polar opposite genres and styles of playing against each other.

I just LOVE to get you Rush guys riled up!!  LOL  I don't think there is another band on this site that engenders such loyalty!

Nobody's riled up. I asked a question. As usual, it gets ignored. Carry on. LOL

Lee Sklar is better than all your favorite bassists. LOL
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Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

That's all well and good, but what about Geddy's falsetto?

What about puttin' tacos on the Ritz?
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Originally posted by verslibre verslibre wrote:

Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

That's all well and good, but what about Geddy's falsetto?

What about puttin' tacos on the Ritz?

Tacos are prog...
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Does anyone care any more?
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Originally posted by Progishness Progishness wrote:

Does anyone care any more?

Bro....there's nothing else to talk about on PA.....LOL Porg is dead....
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote verslibre Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 22 2021 at 11:21
Originally posted by Catcher10 Catcher10 wrote:

Originally posted by verslibre verslibre wrote:

Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

That's all well and good, but what about Geddy's falsetto?

What about puttin' tacos on the Ritz?

Tacos are prog...

Except for tacos with tofu. Those are bad neo.
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Originally posted by verslibre verslibre wrote:

Originally posted by cstack3 cstack3 wrote:

Originally posted by Catcher10 Catcher10 wrote:

Originally posted by verslibre verslibre wrote:

I don't think it's fair to compare Rush (or Yes or Genesis or King Crimson or Kansas or Utopia or Happy the Man, etc.) to the fusion and jazz-rock groups, and vice versa.

I don't expect bands like Rush, Tangerine Dream, Weather Report, Goblin and Santana to all scratch the same itch, which is why I listen to them all. Different vibes. "Different hearts beat on different strings."

It's okay if Rush isn't for you. But to return to the thread just to say Rush "isn't good prog" is just stirring the pot, no? 

Yup, agree.......He's putting up two polar opposite genres and styles of playing against each other.

I just LOVE to get you Rush guys riled up!!  LOL  I don't think there is another band on this site that engenders such loyalty!

Nobody's riled up. I asked a question. As usual, it gets ignored. Carry on. LOL

Lee Sklar is better than all your favorite bassists. LOL

Actually, I might not dispute that.  Lee is quite amazing!  I prefer bassists who use a plectrum like Squire & Lake, so it is apples & oranges....like comparing Rush to Journey!  LOL
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Rush and Journey aren’t much of an apples and oranges comparison. Easy to compare. Both got started around the same time, are from North America, have made progressive rock, hard rock, AOR, pop rock, and must share some of the same audience.. Sorry if I’m missing the point.
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Talking about American bands, the missus actually bought tickets for us for Alice Cooper coming here to Birmingham in October.
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Originally posted by cstack3 cstack3 wrote:

Actually, I might not dispute that.  Lee is quite amazing!  I prefer bassists who use a plectrum like Squire & Lake

And Anthony Jackson, Dave Hope, Bob Daisley, Phil Lynott, Dug Pinnick, Tom Petersson, Julie Slick, Jack Bruce, Jerry Peek, Mike Rutherford, David Ellefson, Stu Hamm (both finger and pick), Bobby Vega (ditto), and your all-time favorite...Joey DeMaio!!!

Originally posted by cstack3 cstack3 wrote:

so it is apples & oranges....like comparing Rush to Journey!  LOL

I defer to Logan's response. LOL
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I forgot: Blackie Lawless plays with a pick, too. LOL
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Alan Cartright, bassist for Procol Harum from 1972 to 1978, was bullied out of the band for playing with a pick instead of his fingers.

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Originally posted by cstack3 cstack3 wrote:

Originally posted by verslibre verslibre wrote:

Originally posted by cstack3 cstack3 wrote:

Originally posted by Catcher10 Catcher10 wrote:

Originally posted by verslibre verslibre wrote:

I don't think it's fair to compare Rush (or Yes or Genesis or King Crimson or Kansas or Utopia or Happy the Man, etc.) to the fusion and jazz-rock groups, and vice versa.

I don't expect bands like Rush, Tangerine Dream, Weather Report, Goblin and Santana to all scratch the same itch, which is why I listen to them all. Different vibes. "Different hearts beat on different strings."

It's okay if Rush isn't for you. But to return to the thread just to say Rush "isn't good prog" is just stirring the pot, no? 

Yup, agree.......He's putting up two polar opposite genres and styles of playing against each other.

I just LOVE to get you Rush guys riled up!!  LOL  I don't think there is another band on this site that engenders such loyalty!

Nobody's riled up. I asked a question. As usual, it gets ignored. Carry on. LOL

Lee Sklar is better than all your favorite bassists. LOL

Actually, I might not dispute that.  Lee is quite amazing!  I prefer bassists who use a plectrum like Squire & Lake, so it is apples & oranges....like comparing Rush to Journey!  LOL

Stanley Clarke don't need no stinkin' plectrum. Wink


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Neither did Jaco, but a pick produces a cool attack and sounds good with flatwounds (and roundwounds).

Watch Bobby switch back and forth effortlessly.


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Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

Alan Cartright, bassist for Procol Harum from 1972 to 1978, was bullied out of the band for playing with a pick instead of his fingers.

Lot of people have very strong views about using a pick.  A friend of mine who plays bass and likes a lot of prog/fusion can't quite bring himself to like Squire for that reason. Confused
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