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Poll Question: What is your favourite Uriah Heep (studio) album from the 1970s?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 03 2005 at 13:31
Originally posted by Certif1ed Certif1ed wrote:

I sincerely do not understand why anyone thinks that Uriah Heep are prog - but I'm open to enlightenment.

They're a great rock band though

 Smile Well Cert, I never did either, and still don't really (apart from a track or two, eg., I put "The Wizard" on one of my prog compilations) but they are here, so I play the game.Wink

As you know, I have "issues" with the whole notion of "prog metal," and do not consider Talk Talk or Audience to be prog either, but that won't stop me from reviewing their albums as MUSIC, after offering the caveat that "I don't really regard this as Progressive Rock, but...." Confused

ErmmIt's subjective, isn't it? -- and you and I are not the "subjects" who make the executive decisions re a band's status here.

I can live with that -- I WOULD NOT want that contentious responsibility.Stern Smile



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 03 2005 at 13:39
I never likedededededed Pariah Sheeple
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 03 2005 at 13:56

I concur with what you're saying there, Peter - I guess I don't do sincerity very well;

I really would like to know why anyone might think that UH are a prog band and, for example, Queen are not. The only answers that people give are they are or they are not, which are unsatisfactory to say the least!

Simple as that really - not confrontationalist

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 03 2005 at 18:01

I loved this band from 1970 until around 1975.From Very 'Eavy to Sweet Freedom  they were at their peak and I agree it is very difficult choosing between them.Their music changed with each album and my own opinion is that Demons and Wizards just edges out Look at Yourself.In David Byron they had Rock's best vocalist/frontman.Certified says they weren't prog and I would have to agree in the strictly true sense of the word Prog,but,with some of the other names being put forward as prog here on this site  tracks like The Spell,The wizard,July Morning,Rainbow Demon and a few others could certainly be thought of as almost prog.I saw them with Byron at least 8 times and live they were just fantastic.This band brought me such joy for years and for that I will never forget them.For those who haven't heard them Look at Yourself and Demons are a very good place to start.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 03 2005 at 18:08
Originally posted by ShrinkingViolet ShrinkingViolet wrote:

mick box sucks.........er dumb ass comment...


I find it hard to choose between the first five albums...Eek i love them all..hmm i'll have to sit thru and listen to my collection and choose....hmm and get coffee...oh and no ones voted for the first one yet



when i say he sucks, i mean that I don't like his playing, but it doesnt mean that he sucks to everyone else, im just saying that he sucks to me, it's my opinion.



On another note, David Byron is a godly vocalist.

It's not a dumb ass comment at all, I'm simply stating my opinion on the boxman.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 03 2005 at 19:51
Well Uriah Heep are certainly not Prog in the same way Yes are, but I think they bear quite a good comparison with Dream Theater. Magician's Birthday is a concept album (apparently...to do with Magic and things), with a title track which is 10 mins long. The song starts off with a rock bit, followed by the Happy Birthday segment, followed by a continuation of the rock bit, followed by a bit of an ominous organ part, and then an amazing guitar/drums duel, and then the finale! (Sorry for the very basic way I put it, but I'm no music guru )

This I believe characterises them as Prog-metal. I think their BIO on the archives said that they always focused on melody and vocal harmonies (I think there's a bit of a Vanilla Fudge influence here). Certainly there are some albums of theirs which aren't really Prog at all, but Salisbury (with its title track), Look at Yourself (with July Morning & Shadow of Grief), Demons & Wizards (with the Paradise/The Spell medley) and Magician's Birthday all contain Prog-metal elements. Albums such as Return to Fantasy and High & Mighty have lost such elements, but still remain fantastic albums in their own right, as they concentrate on the vocal harmonies, melody and strong rock that were Heep's hallmarks!

And yes, David Byron was one of the world's greatest rock frontmen! There is actually a DVD of the Byron-era out, but I have yet to get it.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 03 2005 at 19:53
Oh, and I stand by my claim that if anyone still believes that they aren't Prog (which I can understand), then they should check out Salisbury - Heep at their Proggiest!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 03 2005 at 20:11

I can't understand why nobody mentions the best bass player in rock history Gary Thain, the guy was a wizard, not only limited to be part of the rhythm section (Which is enough for a bassist) but he also played an important role in the melodic section of the band, simply outstanding.

He did in 4 years what other bassists don't do in a whole life, sadly his addiction to heroin took him too early to the grave, what a waste of talent!!!!!

Uriah Heep not Prog???

If you listen Look at Yourself you'll find why I believe they were a progressive band, July Morning is an epic that goes in crescendo in intensity to the end, with incredible changes and massive keyboard, the structure of the track is totally symphonic.

The title track is a masterpiece of abrupt changes in tempo, also with a massive dose of mellotron and Hammond (I believe so) but Tears in my Eyes is a totally progressive song, the changes in the track happen 5 or 6 times, plus a killer keyboard and an ultra complex vocal and choirs work.

If all this is not progressive, I don't know what you may consider progressive, because it has all the characteristics of good prog'.

Iván



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 03 2005 at 20:21
Oooh I agree. Gary Thain was rock's greatest forgotten bassist. From New Zealand actually (where I'm from)!

Oh and yes I did include the Five Miles sessions. They're actually quite lightweight, but one can still find songs from these sessions in places. I don't know if the Lansdowne Tapes compilation has any, but I certainly know the recent remaster of Fallen Angel has a couple as bonus tracks. These remasters are amazing!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 03 2005 at 20:27
As their first being the only one I have it gets my vote.  I think that album blows bands like Led Zepplin and Deep Purple away!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 03 2005 at 20:49

Originally posted by Wizard/TRueStar Wizard/TRueStar wrote:

As their first being the only one I have it gets my vote.  I think that album blows bands like Led Zepplin and Deep Purple away!

Your serious here?

Uriah rocks, and it is a great band, but to compare them to Led Zep- or Deep P. that's ludicrisy.

You only have one album you say, how many of LZ, or DP have you got?

Nah can't be serious I'm just the sucker that takes the bait

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 03 2005 at 21:36
I personally agree that Uriah Heep's debut is much better than a lot of their hard rock contemporaries. But it's just personal taste you know? What some people consider musical ambrosia I may think is utter rubbish, and vice versa of course.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 04 2005 at 02:34
Originally posted by ivan_2068 ivan_2068 wrote:

Uriah Heep not Prog???

If you listen Look at Yourself you'll find why I believe they were a progressive band, July Morning is an epic that goes in crescendo in intensity to the end, with incredible changes and massive keyboard, the structure of the track is totally symphonic.

The title track is a masterpiece of abrupt changes in tempo, also with a massive dose of mellotron and Hammond (I believe so) but Tears in my Eyes is a totally progressive song, the changes in the track happen 5 or 6 times, plus a killer keyboard and an ultra complex vocal and choirs work.

If all this is not progressive, I don't know what you may consider progressive, because it has all the characteristics of good prog'.

Iván

Well, one progressive album does not a prog band make, otherwise Queen would certainly be prog.

I'll check out "Look At Yourself" - thanks



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 04 2005 at 03:39
Look At Yourself being one of my favorite albums, full stop, how could I possibly vote for another (but why couldn't I vote for 'Return To Fantasy' or 'Sweet Freedom' as well.... ?)

I once took Look At Yourself to a party & played 'Shadows Of Grief' to some friends whom I thought would appreciate it, which they did, in a way; it had them all rolling around laughing, thanking me for playing them the best comedy track they'd ever heard... (there are those who will never understand.....) - you know, you never have an Uzi when you need one!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 04 2005 at 11:40

Rob,

You have to get the Byron era DVD, it’s manna from heaven! The music is dubbed onto it though, presumably due to the shortcomings of the original recordings. The sound recordings used  seem to be mainly taken from the Live in ’73 album. The synchronisation is very good though. I got the double DVD version, which includes some great stuff which was not considered of sufficient quality to include on the commercial release. Happy memories.

The recent deluxe remasters are a great tribute to the Heep catalogue. The extra tracks are all worthy of inclusion, many of the albums almost doubling in length. Excellent sleevenotes too.

Prog Bassist. I sympathise with your views on Mick Box (although I’m not sure why you take exception to his name!), but terms like "sucks" can be inflammatory and lead to a perhaps valid point being missed. Personally, I’ve always felt Ken Hensley was the better guitarist, but I still preferred him to be at the keyboards. Box’s guitar work on tracks like "Salisbury" though is superb. It should be born in mind too that without Box, Uriah Heep would long since have ceased to exist. Box is the only original member of the band still with them. While Hensley wrote many of the band’s classic tacks, Box too has contributed many fine compositions. He is one of life’s real characters too, and a genuinely warm and friendly guy.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 04 2005 at 18:45
Purple I loved, but I could take or leave Zeppelin, Uriah really were an awesome band, but I was never a huge Plant fan; for me Byron and Gillan were far superior singers.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 04 2005 at 18:59
Yes! I have to get the Byron-era DVD! Holy Grail...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 04 2005 at 19:23

 

 

I saw this band live in the 70's with Hensley, Box and Byron.  Maybe they were having a bad night but I thought them boring and as several of my friends said after the show a poor man's (watch out now) Deep Purple.  I liked Hensely and I liked Byrons studio voice on things like The Wizzard and such but over all, nope, just didn't do it for me.  But if Uriah Heep is Prog then Deep Purple has more of a claim.  I thought Ken Hensley's solo album (name escapes me) had some decent moments on it.



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 04 2005 at 19:25
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 04 2005 at 20:54

Prog Bassist I see you point and he an average player, but with Uriah Heep he is awesome.

Garion81, Hensley had a few solo albums, but i think you are thinking of the album : Proud Words on An Empty Shelf.

Oh and i have byron era stuff on dvd



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