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Originally posted by Un Amico Un Amico wrote:

If you are talking about UK the band, Eddie Jobson plays keyboards and violin.

But many of their songs do not use violin.  So does that make them not prog? There's no flute in Dancing With The Moonlit Knight and Genesis never had violin. Does that mean Dancing With The Moonlit Knight is not prog? Is Heart Of The Sunrise not prog? Tarkus?

You are going to protest that that is not your point.  And I suggest you try to see my/our point. You are just making up rules based on what prog SOUNDED like in general in the 70s.  But the same bands disobeyed such rules many times on a song by song basis.  So why can a BAND as a whole not be prog simply because they don't incorporate flute or violin?
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Have an even better example.  Marillion.  And yet, nobody even questions whether Marillion is prog because the similarities to Genesis are very apparent. But prog is not about one particular sound, never was.  
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Guys RUSH are prog again today, it flipped. Rush +1 prog, market steady BUY RUSH, etc.

"I am so prog, I listen to concept albums on shuffle." -KMac2021
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Originally posted by Frenetic Zetetic Frenetic Zetetic wrote:

Guys RUSH are prog again today, it flipped. Rush +1 prog, market steady BUY RUSH, etc.

Thanks, gotta stock up on Rush and bitcoin.  There's a lockdown here.
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Originally posted by rogerthat rogerthat wrote:

Originally posted by Frenetic Zetetic Frenetic Zetetic wrote:

Guys RUSH are prog again today, it flipped. Rush +1 prog, market steady BUY RUSH, etc.

Thanks, gotta stock up on Rush and bitcoin.  There's a lockdown here.

Dude exactly; get it now today before it flips again. Yesterday it was shoe gaze with progressive elements; not worth nearly as much as just straight prog, like at this moment. HOLD! Lol.

"I am so prog, I listen to concept albums on shuffle." -KMac2021
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Originally posted by Frenetic Zetetic Frenetic Zetetic wrote:

Originally posted by rogerthat rogerthat wrote:

Originally posted by Frenetic Zetetic Frenetic Zetetic wrote:

Guys RUSH are prog again today, it flipped. Rush +1 prog, market steady BUY RUSH, etc.

Thanks, gotta stock up on Rush and bitcoin.  There's a lockdown here.

Dude exactly; get it now today before it flips again. Yesterday it was shoe gaze with progressive elements; not worth nearly as much as just straight prog, like at this moment. HOLD! Lol.

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Originally posted by rogerthat rogerthat wrote:

Thanks, gotta stock up on Rush and bitcoin.  There's a lockdown here.

Bitcoin, dogecoin, far-flung futures, etc. I'm going back to sand dollars!
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Yes, Rush is actually prog. Lol, so funny

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Originally posted by verslibre verslibre wrote:

Originally posted by rogerthat rogerthat wrote:

Thanks, gotta stock up on Rush and bitcoin.  There's a lockdown here.

Bitcoin, dogecoin, far-flung futures, etc. I'm going back to sand dollars!

Wink

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Originally posted by ProgMetaller2112 ProgMetaller2112 wrote:

Yes, Rush is actually prog. Lol, so funny

So it is actually prog, but is it virtually prog too? Shocked
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Originally posted by Frenetic Zetetic Frenetic Zetetic wrote:

Originally posted by verslibre verslibre wrote:

Originally posted by rogerthat rogerthat wrote:

Thanks, gotta stock up on Rush and bitcoin.  There's a lockdown here.

Bitcoin, dogecoin, far-flung futures, etc. I'm going back to sand dollars!

Wink

This was a joke but I seriously did start with piling up bitcoin.  These trillion dollar printing presses evoke the roaring twenties for me. Hope it doesn't end badly but I want insurance for when it does.
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Originally posted by rogerthat rogerthat wrote:

Originally posted by Frenetic Zetetic Frenetic Zetetic wrote:

Originally posted by verslibre verslibre wrote:

Originally posted by rogerthat rogerthat wrote:

Thanks, gotta stock up on Rush and bitcoin.  There's a lockdown here.

Bitcoin, dogecoin, far-flung futures, etc. I'm going back to sand dollars!

Wink

This was a joke but I seriously did start with piling up bitcoin.  These trillion dollar printing presses evoke the roaring twenties for me. Hope it doesn't end badly but I want insurance for when it does.
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Originally posted by cstack3 cstack3 wrote:

Not having Mellotrons, of course, is a major strike against the "Rush is Prog" argument! LOL

Haven't read the whole thread so if this has been said, then ignore but Rush has used the mellotron on some songs
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Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

Originally posted by rogerthat rogerthat wrote:

Originally posted by Frenetic Zetetic Frenetic Zetetic wrote:

Originally posted by verslibre verslibre wrote:

Originally posted by rogerthat rogerthat wrote:

Thanks, gotta stock up on Rush and bitcoin.  There's a lockdown here.

Bitcoin, dogecoin, far-flung futures, etc. I'm going back to sand dollars!

Wink

This was a joke but I seriously did start with piling up bitcoin.  These trillion dollar printing presses evoke the roaring twenties for me. Hope it doesn't end badly but I want insurance for when it does.
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If sh*t coin is fiat money, then yes.  Large scale debasement of currencies is not going to work out well.  Inflation will kick in at some point and start to bite.
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Originally posted by Jeffro Jeffro wrote:

Originally posted by cstack3 cstack3 wrote:

Not having Mellotrons, of course, is a major strike against the "Rush is Prog" argument! LOL

Haven't read the whole thread so if this has been said, then ignore but Rush has used the mellotron on some songs
which ones?
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Originally posted by chopper chopper wrote:

Originally posted by Jeffro Jeffro wrote:

Originally posted by cstack3 cstack3 wrote:

Not having Mellotrons, of course, is a major strike against the "Rush is Prog" argument! LOL

Haven't read the whole thread so if this has been said, then ignore but Rush has used the mellotron on some songs
which ones?

Originally posted by verslibre verslibre wrote:

Mellotron (M400, owned by Hugh Syme, played by Geddy) on "Tears" from 2112 and four songs on Snakes & Arrows.
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Yup........here from LP liner notes. As well Alex playing a bouzouki.
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There was a guy on my Prog FB page today saying Rush wasn't prog - his examples included hemispheres having only one side of prog music. On pointing out that Side two contained La villa strangiato he grudgingly agreed going on to tell me PM and MP contained no Prog but were Rock albums. I countered this with tracks like Jacob's Laddder, the Camera Eye etc which I think flummoxed him because I have had no reply.
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Originally posted by Earl of Mar Earl of Mar wrote:

There was a guy on my Prog FB page today saying Rush wasn't prog - his examples included hemispheres having only one side of prog music. On pointing out that Side two contained La villa strangiato he grudgingly agreed going on to tell me PM and MP contained no Prog but were Rock albums. I countered this with tracks like Jacob's Laddder, the Camera Eye etc which I think flummoxed him because I have had no reply.

Flummoxed = You been schooled!

Better question is for him to define to you what bands he thinks are prog. 
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Originally posted by Catcher10 Catcher10 wrote:

Yup........here from LP liner notes. As well Alex playing a bouzouki.

Yup, the notion that a group like Rush never used a mellotron, or even mandolin and bouzouki, is down to unfamiliarly with an a artist that's not one of their favorites.
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