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Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

The hell with Rush. I want to know if prog is really prog. Give examples please.

But what is prog? Wink

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Originally posted by Guldbamsen Guldbamsen wrote:

^Heh..I was thinking the same thing. How this thread ever made it to 14 pages I’ll never understand  

I say that constantly about almost everything here; I think most are in denial that PA is bored and we are now making threads that would exist at the start of the site again, lmao.

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Originally posted by Frenetic Zetetic Frenetic Zetetic wrote:

Originally posted by Guldbamsen Guldbamsen wrote:

^Heh..I was thinking the same thing. How this thread ever made it to 14 pages I’ll never understand  

I say that constantly about almost everything here; I think most are in denial that PA is bored and we are now making threads that would exist at the start of the site again, lmao.

This site is what sustains my interest in prog; otherwise I'd have no idea what's out there, both new and old. 

I was thinking the other day that too bad there isn't a site exactly like this (the ratings, the reviews, the algorithms to do searches, the forums) on other genres within indie/rock: power pop, punk, synth-pop, New Wave, post-punk, Britpop, dance punk, garage rock revival, etc. OMG that would be the greatest interactive music site ever.


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If Rush weren't prog then neither were Kansas, Pink Floyd, Jethro Tull, The Moody Blues, etc. The list could just keep going. Not all of their material was prog but the same could be said about a lot of bands considered prog.
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Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

If Rush weren't prog then neither were Kansas, Pink Floyd, Jethro Tull, The Moody Blues, etc. The list could just keep going. Not all of their material was prog but the same could be said about a lot of bands considered prog.

That says it all for me. Time to move on now.
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Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

Not all of their material was prog but the same could be said about a lot of bands considered prog.

I would hazard to say that's true of all my favorite prog bands, and when they were in their prime at that. I doubt if Floyd, Genesis, Yes, or Tull ever threw a tune away after thinking, "This doesn't sound prog enough." The NYC punk era duo Suicide, whom most assumed were intentionally being "difficult" and were "anti-pop," admitted that their goal was to write hits and get on the radio. They just didn't compromise their vision or their sound; while putting forth the best tunes that they could. I'm sure this was the goal of Yes, Genesis, Floyd, Tull, and most of the rest.


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I think the core issue here - if I may - is that Prog does not actually exist as a music current, or movement, or even as a remporary trend. Blues artists are happy and proud to be called that. Reggae artist, same. Same with Metal.But Prog? I am not aware of any artist or band that were/are happy with that label. Prog as a category only exists in the press and in the minds of some fans who by the way cannot even agree on what actually constitues Progressive Music. It' s really very funny. Might as well try to catch the wind, said Donovan. Was he Prog too?
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People today are too obsessed with labels and putting everything into boxes. It makes me uneasy, and it has a negative impact on diversity - especially when we get to these endless discussions about this or that band not being enough stylistically pure.

Rush is Rush, and Pink Floyd is Pink Floyd. The most interesting music often comes from people who do not try to fit into a box.


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Originally posted by Un Amico Un Amico wrote:

I think the core issue here - if I may - is that Prog does not actually exist as a music current, or movement, or even as a remporary trend. Blues artists are happy and proud to be called that. Reggae artist, same. Same with Metal.But Prog? I am not aware of any artist or band that were/are happy with that label. Prog as a category only exists in the press and in the minds of some fans who by the way cannot even agree on what actually constitues Progressive Music. It' s really very funny. Might as well try to catch the wind, said Donovan. Was he Prog too?

I'm friends with a lot of prog musicians on Facebook and I can assure you that they are happy and proud to be called that. Methinks you live in a bubble or something.
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Originally posted by Un Amico Un Amico wrote:

I think the core issue here - if I may - is that Prog does not actually exist as a music current, or movement, or even as a remporary trend. Blues artists are happy and proud to be called that. Reggae artist, same. Same with Metal.But Prog? I am not aware of any artist or band that were/are happy with that label. Prog as a category only exists in the press and in the minds of some fans who by the way cannot even agree on what actually constitues Progressive Music. It' s really very funny. Might as well try to catch the wind, said Donovan. Was he Prog too?
Yes and no. Yes, Strawbs,and Tull self identify as prog. So did Steven Wilson before he turned into a pop artist. So, it depends where the artist is at musically. They seem to put on and take off labels like they were socks.

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Originally posted by The Anders The Anders wrote:

People today are too obsessed with labels and putting everything into boxes. It makes me uneasy, and it has a negative impact on diversity - especially when we get to these endless discussions about this or that band not being enough stylistically pure.

Rush is Rush, and Pink Floyd is Pink Floyd. The most interesting music often comes from people who do not try to fit into a box.

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Originally posted by Un Amico Un Amico wrote:

I think the core issue here - if I may - is that Prog does not actually exist as a music current, or movement, or even as a remporary trend. Blues artists are happy and proud to be called that. Reggae artist, same. Same with Metal.But Prog? I am not aware of any artist or band that were/are happy with that label. Prog as a category only exists in the press and in the minds of some fans who by the way cannot even agree on what actually constitues Progressive Music. It' s really very funny. Might as well try to catch the wind, said Donovan. Was he Prog too?

They've had a Prog Magazine's Progressive Music Award show yearly since 2013. Big turnout. Heavyweights like Jon Anderson, Rick Wakeman, Steve Hackett, Ian Anderson, Tony Banks, Mike Rutherford, Carl Palmer, etc. come to bask in the glory of their former progdom....
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Originally posted by Un Amico Un Amico wrote:

I think the core issue here - if I may - is that Prog does not actually exist as a music current, or movement, or even as a remporary trend. Blues artists are happy and proud to be called that. Reggae artist, same. Same with Metal.But Prog? I am not aware of any artist or band that were/are happy with that label. Prog as a category only exists in the press and in the minds of some fans who by the way cannot even agree on what actually constitues Progressive Music. It' s really very funny. Might as well try to catch the wind, said Donovan. Was he Prog too?

That is factually untrue.
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Originally posted by cstack3 cstack3 wrote:

Originally posted by Un Amico Un Amico wrote:

because to me they sound like HR musicians with a bigger bag of tricks, for the most part.

Thanks, I've always felt that way myself, but ours is the minority opinion on PA. 

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I do not doubt it. After being told for 50 years that what one does is called 'Progressive' and not having a better word for it, one does eventually give in and accepts the honors and the adoration.
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Originally posted by BrufordFreak BrufordFreak wrote:

Originally posted by cstack3 cstack3 wrote:

Originally posted by Un Amico Un Amico wrote:

because to me they sound like HR musicians with a bigger bag of tricks, for the most part.


Thanks, I've always felt that way myself, but ours is the minority opinion on PA. 

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Bridge Of Sighs? I have both Vinyl and CD.
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Originally posted by The Anders The Anders wrote:

People today are too obsessed with labels and putting everything into boxes. It makes me uneasy, and it has a negative impact on diversity - especially when we get to these endless discussions about this or that band not being enough stylistically pure.

Rush is Rush, and Pink Floyd is Pink Floyd. The most interesting music often comes from people who do not try to fit into a box.


Spot on, and an artist either appeals to you or it doesn't.
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Originally posted by Un Amico Un Amico wrote:

Bridge Of Sighs? I have both Vinyl and CD.
That's such a great album that I have no comeback for that. Enjoy Mr. Trower.
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