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Poll Question: Which three are your favorites?
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Originally posted by JD JD wrote:

Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

Originally posted by jamesbaldwin jamesbaldwin wrote:

Originally posted by Shadowyzard Shadowyzard wrote:

... Here's my nomination: Handel - Water Music....


Wonderful music! This young Turkish boy, stuck in the seventies, judging by the length of his hair, is talented, in my opinion he will give us satisfaction!


Historians get the true story of Handel's [sic] Water Music wrong. It is said that King George I asked Handel to provide music for his River Thames barge party, and the suite was the result. In reality, it was Boy George I (who also sported long hair) that asked DJ Handles to create music (Handles' Passing Water Music) to help with his urinary retention, but it worked far too well as he developed chronic urinary incontinence. A very pissed Boy George I later wrote a song about Handles, who George unfairly blamed for Handles' great success, called "Do You Really Want to Hurt Me (Do you Really Want to Make Me Pee)" which featured the lyrics:

"Do you really want to hurt me,
Do you really want to make me pee...
Come inside and catch my whizz
I've been piddling but believe me
If it's true you do not know
This boy wees without a reason
I'm prepared to let it go
If it's piss you want from me
Then feel my spray
Please take it away" (The UnCultured Club).
You just made that up...didn't you? Wink


Maybe.

Some of it at least. It's true about King George I and Handel from what I know. In terms of the Culture Club (with Boy George) lyrics, I adapted them somewhat. For some reason it was more concerned with crying than other juices aflying. I think mine is an improvement. The name Handles is my little homage to a cyberman head in Doctor Who.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote JD Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 30 2021 at 14:33
Originally posted by TCat TCat wrote:

Anything water-based counts, even contact solution (saline), but I challenge anyone to find a song about contact solution.

Challenge accepted.
It's close...



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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Cristi Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 30 2021 at 14:34
Originally posted by Raff Raff wrote:

Deep Purple are on PA. Shouldn't this make them ineligible for this poll?

That's for TCat to decide.
One of my songs is from a band that is on PA. Little known, but it's on PA. 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote JD Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 30 2021 at 14:36
Wait what??? The Rules are clear and Raff is right. NON-PA songs.

The first rule of Interactive polls is..

1. Post some songs (usually about 3 or less) that have to do with the subject in the poll.  Unless stated otherwise, the songs cannot be by artists listed in ProgArchives and typically be lesser known songs


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote mathman0806 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 30 2021 at 14:38
Originally posted by Snicolette Snicolette wrote:

Originally posted by TCat TCat wrote:


Of course tears count as water (as one of my selections is called "Tears").  Anything water-based counts, even contact solution (saline), but I challenge anyone to find a song about contact solution.

Looks like we've had some great selections so far.  I wasn't sure if this would be a difficult one or not, but it seems to be working out well.  (Well.  Get it?)
  Could not resist the challenge.....[video removed for space]  there are also some "saline," songs, but this one was pretty clever with the double meaning thing going on.

We don't have to do the poll. Nickie wins! Smile
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Cristi Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 30 2021 at 14:39
Originally posted by JD JD wrote:

Wait what??? The Rules are clear and Raff is right. NON-PA songs.

The first rule of Interactive polls is..

1. Post some songs (usually about 3 or less) that have to do with the subject in the poll.  Unless stated otherwise, the songs cannot be by artists listed in ProgArchives and typically be lesser known songs

we usually do non-prog. 

Raff is right but I guess TCat is the one to say what song stays and what song goes. 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote Logan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 30 2021 at 14:40
But as said, he already said it

"The songs can be vocal or instrumental. They must not be from artists in the ProgArchives database" (TCat).
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Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by JD JD wrote:

Wait what??? The Rules are clear and Raff is right. NON-PA songs.

The first rule of Interactive polls is..

1. Post some songs (usually about 3 or less) that have to do with the subject in the poll.  Unless stated otherwise, the songs cannot be by artists listed in ProgArchives and typically be lesser known songs

we usually do non-prog. 

Raff is right but I guess TCat is the one to say what song stays and what song goes. 

The rules state as above, so the Deep Purple track does not qualify.  It was stated, also as Logan reposted, in the specific rules for this specific poll.


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Good job Nickie and JD for facing up to the challenge.  I should have known someone would find something.  You both get extra Thank you points for that one.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Raff Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 30 2021 at 15:33
Just remembered there are some great water-themed songs in Italian, a couple of which I would like to share with you. I am sure Lorenzo will approveSmile! Both artists have unfortunately passed away - the more reason to celebrate them here. The first one is the great Lucio Dalla with "Com'è profondo il mare" (How Deep Is the Sea): 

Next is the extraordinary voice of Giuni Russo with "Un'estate al mare" (A Summer at the Seaside), a song written by Franco Battiato and his longtime collaborator, Giusto Pio:






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Is this maybe a loophole?  Wink   The Flaming Lips aren't on PA, although maybe they should be.





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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Cristi Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 30 2021 at 16:06
Originally posted by rushfan4 rushfan4 wrote:

Is this maybe a loophole?  Wink   The Flaming Lips aren't on PA, although maybe they should be.




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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote The Anders Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 30 2021 at 16:10
I immediately thought of this song, but maybe it is too well known?

Das Lied von der Moldau (The song of the Vltava)
Music: Hanns Eisler, lyrics: Bertolt Brecht

Here, sung by Gisela May:


PS: I just spotted that the translation mistakingly reads 'Vitava' and not 'Vltava' (the Czech name of the river that runs through Prague).


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Snicolette Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 30 2021 at 16:21
Originally posted by TCat TCat wrote:

Good job Nickie and JD for facing up to the challenge.  I should have known someone would find something.  You both get extra Thank you points for that one.
  *curtseys*LOL
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Tancos Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 30 2021 at 16:24
Hot Tuna, "Water Song"



Shugo Tokumaru, "Green Rain"



Eubie Blake, "Fizz Water"



Michael Chapdelaine, "Rain Dance"


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Originally posted by jamesbaldwin jamesbaldwin wrote:

My selection:

1) Alberto Fortis: Mary

  Lorenzo, this one doesn't work for me, perhaps you can confirm or may not be able to, that this is the same?  It's 5:22 in length.


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Originally posted by rushfan4 rushfan4 wrote:

Is this maybe a loophole?  Wink   The Flaming Lips aren't on PA, although maybe they should be.

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That loophole works.  I agree with you about them being on PA, especially since Mercury Rev is here and they have a connection.  There is a constant argument with The Flaming Lips being on PA, but they have been suggested many times before and keep getting rejected.  Go figure.

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Had a bit of free time this rainy afternoon, so got through all of the first page already.  Here are my initial thoughts.  

Mike:  Patrick Watson “Here Comes the River”  Beautiful voiced singer/songwriter type, with muted piano.  Just a slight echo effect on his voice, this is very subtle, as there is a slow orchestral swell, that continues to build and then abates to go back to just voice and piano for a moment.  Very moving piece, I can see why it has given you such solace of late.  This is one I too, will return to, and want to hear more from him.  Grandaddy “Crystal Lake”  Funny album title!  Guitars, drums and some electronic bleeply bleeplies are joined after a few turns by a singer with a bit of an ironic tone to his voice.  Looking at the lyrics, I can see why the irony.  The choruses have a sort of quasi sort of almost 60’s poppiness to the sound.  It does feel catchy, but it’s catchy with a catch, he’s gotta get outta there!  The Stone Roses “Tears”  Begins with some pretty, pretty, electric guitar and maybe some keys way under?  An echo-y voiced singer with a bit of an edge to his voice wanders in, there’s a kind of Stones-y psych era sound to this one.  I remember the band, but don’t remember what I’d heard from them before, certainly not this.  The whole band kicks in about a third of the way in.  I see why you compare them with Oasis, as far as general sound.  Nice guitar lead halfway in, ragged, like the lyrics would suggest.  Second less ragged, more “forward,” guitar lead two thirds in, goes off into a Hendrix-y sound for a bit, as wel.  All three are excellent in my book, but the first one is the one for me. 

Logan:  Nick Drake “River Man”  This one I love, but know, but certainly worth repeating for those who are unacquainted with the loveliness that is Nick Drake.  He also embues what Tom Rapp said about his own music, “constructive melancholy.”  Extradition “A Water Song”  Pretty voiced female ala Mary Hopkin with drippy water sounds, little bells and recorder(?). Hard for my ears to tell.  This one has a sort of stop-start way of going about itself, it’s very engaging to my ear, a very playful piece.    PJ Harvey “The River”  Actually, I’m not very familiar with her material, although I have many friends who are fast and faithful fans.  So let’s give it a listen.  A whispery vocal with haunting piano notes, quiet percussion, a feeling of foreboding here.  I like the atmosphere here, very dark in feel. Trumpet is an excellent choice to add to this, to create a cold-feeling cityscape rearing up behind the river.   Washy, distorted guitars just add to the dense, drowning feeling.  Stringtronics “Dawn Mist”  Very pretty, as well, with harmonics and strings blending, bass walks in and harpsichordish sounds take over, as the strings continue to build the suspenseful feel here.  Another ominous sort of one, with rattlesnake-y   percussion way way back.  Some shimmery sounds come along to join in with the rest.  I gotta say, I could possibly go with any of these (outside of Nick Drake, since I know this one). 

Hiram:  Radiopuhelimet “ Jäämeri  This one wastes no time with getting right down to business.  Much more in your face than the previous selections, above it.  The Arctic is a different beast indeed than these more flowy places have been, although it is likely much more “floe-y.”  😉  Followed by the same band, with “Merellä.” Also in a heavy vein with lots of whirry guitars and a hard and fast beat.  Vocals are almost chant-like and rough-edged at the same time.  Rolls into a long psych-space-type jam while the vocals continue and finally all fades with feedback heading quietly into space.  I prefer this one to their first and they made up for the shortness of the first one with this much longer piece, indeed, my favourite of your three.  Einstürzende Neubauten “DNS Wasserturm”  Lots of banshee sounds and some spoken word at the beginning.  There are spooky footsteps heard, sounds like a soundtrack for a spooky film.  There are some other indeterminate sounds in the background as the speaker continues.  Tom Waits “Rain Dogs”  A sort of café sound here, with accordion….drums kick in with wonky guitars and Tom Waits’ inimitable vocals. An almost cartoonish feel, in a really cool way, not silly, almost more of a fun romp out of a bar, late at night, with rain and nonsense being sung. 

Shadowyzard:  First thing I thought of with the theme.  A beautiful piece of music, assuredly. 

Lorenzo:  Alberto Fortis “Mary”  Begins with solo piano and some strings, a whispery male vocalist.  I really love the atmosphere here.  Organ quietly joins in with some wah wah guitar way back in the mix.  Not sure from the translated lyrics, but it almost seems as if he’s describing a ghostly person to here, or is he the ghost?  Choir-ish vocals and a woman join in with him.  Really well produced and a lovely song.

DMB “Don’t Drink The Water”  Very familiar with these folks, carried them on our buses for years and was even treated to a lovely supper in Boulder, CO one time, so I can’t vote “for,” it but it’s a great addition to the theme of the poll.  I like very much the folky elements in it and the slow restraint and building of tension in the piece, along with the quasi-Middle Eastern-y feel from time to time. A very moving piece, wish it were new to me, so I could vote for it.  Francesco Guccini “Acque”  A complete change of pace from the previous one, after some beginning notes,asaxophone comes to the fore, before the vocals.  I couldn’t find lyrics translation for this one, but there is a feeling of both melancholy and triumph.  There are some really nice tempo changes to keep this interesting, but the Fortis piece here is most to my liking of these two. 

JD:  The Doobie Brothers “Black Water”  Definitely too familiar to vote for this one.  I have a wonderful memory of being at the Santa Cruz pier and picking up some fish at one of the fish markets there.  This song came over the stereo and all of the staff began singing and dancing and chopping fish in time.  My housemate, who had a helluva a great singing voice, joined in with them and got several of the other customers to dance with him.  So much fun.  Sorry I went off to memory land.  The Doobies were also semi-locals to Santa Cruz.  Enya “Orinoco Flow,” a beautiful song, again too familiar to vote for it, for me.  No, I did not go sailing away with Enya on a fabulous trip one time, lol.  Gordon Lightfoot “The Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald,” again, too familiar to vote for it, but I do love some other Lightfoot tunes very much.  Gowan “Oceania”  Here’s one I don’t know, let’s give it a listen.  A rocker from the first sound of it, I like the keyboards very much, more of a jazz fusion sound as it gets into the song itself.  Not as impressed with the singer.  I do enjoy the musicality of it, however, it certainly could have been a hit in it’s time.  Men At Work “Down By The Sea”  I owned this LP at the time, so too familiar with the song again.  But I did enjoy the band a lot.  Men Without Hats “Walk on Water”  This band, I also remember, but only the odd megahit.  This is in the same kind of 80’s pop style as “The Safety Dance,” which is memorable for Rennies like myself for the RenFest setting of the video.  Lots of keyboards and those 80’s drums.  Another good absurdist view sort of song from them. 

Nick_h_nz:  Rattle “Nau Mai e Kā Hua”  Sounds very interesting to me….let’s go take a gander over at BC.  I decided to listen to the title track, which begins with some sort of flute-ish sounds?  The woman’s voice is absolutely spine-tinglingly beautiful.  I think I will add this to my “to listen to,” emails that I send myself.  Just stunning and an absolute contender. Nick, I have a feeling you’re going to give me another “keeper.”  Let’s see if I’m right.  Ummmm harp?  My poor wallet, lol.  Adenine “Smirr”  Yep, right from the first notes.  Haunting harp, with echo and harmonics used to beautiful affect.  Both are just splendid and thank you! 

Raff:  Blind Faith “Sea of Joy”  As you probably could guess, Raff, I do know this one, but it IS a most excellent choice.  I hope some folks around here are not familiar so they can experience the “joy,” of hearing it for the first time.

Cristi:  Fluturi Pe Asfalt “Munti Sub Mari”  Washy guitars kick right in with a full assault to follow on drums, must be rough seas. Kicks back after the first almost-minute into clear repetitive guitar notes and an emotive, strident vocal. Really enjoyed the raw and urgent electric lead towards the end. I like this one a lot, it has the kind of complexity that keeps my interest in harder-edged music.   Celelalte Cuvinte “Paraul” They waste no time in coming in with electric lead, then kick-ass bass, drums and keys.  Not sure what the lyrics are, but the female vocalist is certainly singing them with vehemence.   I like this too, but the first one, much more. 

BaldFriede:  Nina Hagen Band "Naturträne"  Begins with some lovely acoustic guitar notes (and I love the finger sounds on the strings).  I do know some Nina Hagen, but not a lot.  Here she is very operatic to my ear.  There are some underpinnings of choir-ish vocals underneath and drums come along, with a string section, then a more traditional sound of electric lead commences.  Nina returns with her plaintive, then strident operatic tone again, ending on a very high note with a bit of a cluck at the end.    



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Originally posted by Snicolette Snicolette wrote:

Cristi:  Fluturi Pe Asfalt “Munti Sub Mari”  Washy guitars kick right in with a full assault to follow on drums, must be rough seas. Kicks back after the first almost-minute into clear repetitive guitar notes and an emotive, strident vocal. Really enjoyed the raw and urgent electric lead towards the end. I like this one a lot, it has the kind of complexity that keeps my interest in harder-edged music.   Celelalte Cuvinte “Paraul” They waste no time in coming in with electric lead, then kick-ass bass, drums and keys.  Not sure what the lyrics are, but the female vocalist is certainly singing them with vehemence.   I like this too, but the first one, much more. 

 


The Celelalte Cuvinte song will not qualify because they are on PA, but I posted it because I love that song, in fact I listened to the whole album yesterday after I posted the song. I giggled when I saw you think it's a female vocalist. It's not. It's a man, guitarist and one of the main songwriters in band. I guess it's the reason why some dislike the band, but he does remind me of Jon Anderson in places. On later albums he does not sound so high pitched. The song I posted is from their 1990 album. 

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