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Originally posted by ExittheLemming ExittheLemming wrote:

Originally posted by The Dark Elf The Dark Elf wrote:

Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

Oh, Jesus.


I'm out of this conversation. I have no intention of going down the rabbit hole more times than Alice. Curiouser and curiouser.


I'm really not sure which brand of clueless PA poster is preferable: the post modernists who posit ducks are merely social constructs or the spiritual quacks?.


Ermm Hmm. Perhaps you should flip a coin.

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Not quite sure what's going on here, but there is a distinct lack of Tull on the last pages. And siLLy puPPy seems to have taken peanut butter to be his god, which is fine by me, but did Tull write about peanut butter?
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This thread is amazing for all the reasons.

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Is white a color or the absence of color?
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Originally posted by Awesoreno Awesoreno wrote:

Is white a color or the absence of color?

White is actually all colors combined.

Black is the absence of color.

The real question is, is the opposite of fire = water, or is the opposite of fire = no fire? Wink

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Originally posted by ExittheLemming ExittheLemming wrote:

I'm really not sure which brand of clueless PA poster is preferable: the post modernists who posit ducks are merely social constructs or the spiritual quacks?.
Don't know if your trying to be funny. Calling posters clueless is insulting and mean.
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Originally posted by Grumpyprogfan Grumpyprogfan wrote:

Originally posted by ExittheLemming ExittheLemming wrote:

I'm really not sure which brand of clueless PA poster is preferable: the post modernists who posit ducks are merely social constructs or the spiritual quacks?.
Don't know if your trying to be funny. Calling posters clueless is insulting and mean.


I agree with you both. Tongue
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Originally posted by Grumpyprogfan Grumpyprogfan wrote:

Originally posted by ExittheLemming ExittheLemming wrote:

I'm really not sure which brand of clueless PA poster is preferable: the post modernists who posit ducks are merely social constructs or the spiritual quacks?.
Don't know if your trying to be funny. Calling posters clueless is insulting and mean.


Interesting being lectured to by Grumpyprogfan imploring tolerance (watch and learn pilgrim)LOL
These religious themed threads invariably invite completely unwelcome pseudo intellectual Derridian bollocks and spiritual hippy cosmiche w**k. Not all the posts are like this and not all posters need this explained to them.


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^ Oh, I "thought" Grumpy meant "postmodernists", while saying "posters". My bad.
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Originally posted by Grumpyprogfan Grumpyprogfan wrote:

Originally posted by ExittheLemming ExittheLemming wrote:

I'm really not sure which brand of clueless PA poster is preferable: the post modernists who posit ducks are merely social constructs or the spiritual quacks?.
Don't know if your trying to be funny. Calling posters clueless is insulting and mean.

Oh, it made me laugh. Also because it shows a lack of understanding what post-modernism is about (confounding it with idealism - as in philosophy). But I must admit that the use and abuse of that notion can go any which way whoever wants it to go - but that's a topic for another thread. Is that post-modernist enough?


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Originally posted by Frenetic Zetetic Frenetic Zetetic wrote:

Originally posted by Awesoreno Awesoreno wrote:

Is white a color or the absence of color?

White is actually all colors combined.

Black is the absence of color.

The real question is, is the opposite of fire = water, or is the opposite of fire = no fire? Wink

I thought that was for pigments. Like if you look at a pigment wheel, magenta, cyan, and yellow together make white.

I thought for colors it was the other way around, where black was the combination, and white the absence. I might be wrong. But I do remember combining all paints in art class in elementary school and getting a brownish black.

Anywaaaaaaaay... Aqualung...
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Originally posted by Awesoreno Awesoreno wrote:

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Anywaaaaaaaay... Aqualung...

Hi,

I was about to say ... the music died in this conversation ... wish the admins would lock it, since it is a dead end, and no one can agree on anything, least of which is the very different takes on it all.

That said, for me, things like MAGMA are actually very religious, but we don't think of it that way. It is, at least, spiritual.
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Originally posted by nick_h_nz nick_h_nz wrote:

Originally posted by BaldFriede BaldFriede wrote:

I always ask people who say "God doesn't exist" how they define God because most actually don't know. I even got the answer "I don't need to define him; he doesn't exist".

That is an entirely appropriate answer. It is virtually impossible to define something that does not exist. Defining god is no different to defining a vampire, a werewolf or the Loch Ness Monster. There are various definitions and descriptions of these creatures, some of which are contradictory. Any of the definitions are merely subjective, as no objective construct has yet been found in reality. Any definitions are realistically only attempts to define the unknown. So there is no need to define god, if one believes he doesn’t exist. No need and and no way....



Sorry, but that's nonsense. When you declare something to be non-existent you have to have a definition of it, else the statement is totally meaningless. "I have no idea what a wildebeest is, but it does not exist" simply doesn't work.

Vampires and werewolves have clear definitions. With the Loch Ness monster it is different; the descriptions vary a lot; the best definition for it is "giant creature of unknown species that lives in Loch Ness". But that's still a definition.

I have a definition for God that is actually scientific. My definition has to do with consciousness and where it comes from.

By the way: I highly recommend to read Raymond Smullyan's "Is God a Taoist?" It is absolute fascinating reading.


Edited by BaldFriede - April 27 2021 at 18:09


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Originally posted by Frenetic Zetetic Frenetic Zetetic wrote:



White is actually all colors combined.

Black is the absence of color.


It's the exact opposite of that.
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Originally posted by Pelata Pelata wrote:

Originally posted by Frenetic Zetetic Frenetic Zetetic wrote:



White is actually all colors combined.

Black is the absence of color.


It's the exact opposite of that.

I think he means black is the result of the total absorption of light, white is total reflection.
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Originally posted by chopper chopper wrote:

Originally posted by Pelata Pelata wrote:

Originally posted by Frenetic Zetetic Frenetic Zetetic wrote:



White is actually all colors combined.

Black is the absence of color.


It's the exact opposite of that.


I think he means black is the result of the total absorption of light, white is total reflection.


I was going on face value...not what he may have meant.

White is the absence of all color (can't mix colors to make white), black is the absorption/combination all colors.
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I also wasn't speaking in terms of light, which I do see as white being a combo o all color on the spectrum.

Darkness (black) is the absence of light itself.
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...and still the drivel persists Ermm
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^Hey, we're getting somewhere here. Certainly farther than we were getting discussing whether or not "Jethro tull is the most anti-religious, religious."
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Originally posted by ExittheLemming ExittheLemming wrote:

...and still the drivel persists Ermm
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