How accurate is this prog family tree? - Progressive Rock Music Forum

cstack3 wrote:

Interestingly, most of the folks once shared a flat in London!

True but many musicians have claimed to share a flat with Jimi Hendrix also, so I have to take it with grain of salt.

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Guldbamsen wrote:

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If we were to make a prog rock tree in a convincing way, we need to approach this with a far bigger net..that encompasses more of the globe and more of the stuff that doesn’t align perfectly with what most folks think of as being the classic prog rock sound. A tree like that would also be able to embrace The Soft Machine, Frank Zappa, Procul Harum, Samla Mammas Manna, Amon Düül ll, Magma, The Moody Blues, Colosseum and Santana....fx. There are so many more that belong on there, because prog rock, like so many other music genres, didn’t somehow magically appear at the fripp of the switch ‘The Court of the Crimson King has been released and we now have prog rock Ladies and gentlemen!’

Hi,

As can be seen by so many of the posts on PA, I'm not sure that a "nice" family tree makes sense, specially when things are so different between America and England ... where the tree would not satisfy the many ranges and differences.

In my silly way of seeing (you know the old geezer's way!), this is what you get as an example of someone that is not aware, or considering the history of a lot of the music ... it's a chart BASED ON NUMBERS and the "top bands", and as such it really leaves behind many of the other originals that deserve to be there, that were left behind, since the person putting it together, despite the well meaning desire for it, did not have the ability to see the history, and how/when it all came about ... it's still thought by many of the folks that post here, that it all came from an album or two ... and we all KNOW that not only would not be possible, it is virtually unlikely to happen ... (I call this the Adam and Eve Theory by the way ...!!! Tongue

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I don't mind these things, but the older I get, the more I seem to notice the lack of ability to see the history of the music as an important factor in the creativity ... and seeing SF, NY, Chicago and other areas pretty much ignored is scared ... and difficult!

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Isn't the Pete Frame family tree just about who played with who at what time? - rather than what the music actually sounded like....

Ask 10 prog heads to draw up a 'prog family tree' and you'll end up with 10 quite different charts and a hundred heated discussions!

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Manuel wrote:

Progishness wrote:

Ask 10 prog heads to draw up a 'prog family tree' and you'll end up with 10 quite different charts and a hundred heated discussions!

Exactly how I feel. It would be an endless argument, lasting a few generations.

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Manuel wrote:

Progishness wrote:

Ask 10 prog heads to draw up a 'prog family tree' and you'll end up with 10 quite different charts and a hundred heated discussions!

Exactly how I feel. It would be an endless argument, lasting a few generations.

Hi,

I think, that many of us that are older, would likely come up with something that is very different ... many of us heard Miles, and saw many others at that time, whose strength was incredible and it went on to help further a lot of music around the world ... not that it wasn't already happening ... I really think that Miles helped put a face on it, and it was already there, ignored by record companies because many folks were black!

One can not ... create these things, without a history, and a more inclusive history ... not just a history that lasts a total of 20 years ... and dies out ... our music now has at least almost 60 years of life ... and it is scary when it is reduced to just a few years ... and it makes it easy to say that there is a serious lack of educational knowledge that would help the chart and the discussions ... beyond the social media styled comments, of course ... that don't belong in the history!

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It's interesting. The only thing about it I really enjoy is how Muse is at a four way crossroads.

Porg for short. My love of music doesn't end with prog! Feel free to discuss all sorts of music with me. Odds are I'll give it a chance if I haven't already! :)