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Maybe this one makes a bit more sense. |
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Some of the answers here gave me an idea for another thread related to prog rock history... I will think about it, formulate it and maybe post. |
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Pete Frame's music family tree books are awesome! I had one back in the day.
For the tree in question it's not bad. You can't include every genre found on PA and I don't consider jazz rock/fusion prog. |
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I remember Pete Frame's rock family trees, but don't remember the name of the music publication they used to turn up in on a semi-regular basis.
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Defining 'continental prog' as a genre is a bit arrogant imo.
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Exactly, as Italian Prog and Krautrock definitely inhabit their own distinct spaces.
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They were in Sounds originally, and then moved onto Kerrang.
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Not really. A "continental breakfast" is relatively cheap with a limited menu.
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now which continent is it?
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In what way? Geographically or musically? Does Italian heavy prog sound distinctively Italian? Ditto Italian folk prog? What about our German friends? Is there something about Krautrock which is so distinctive that it is set utterly apart from, say, some of the more British avant stuff being produced at the same time? This has got me in a wee bit of trouble in the past, but I am old enough to remember this argument raging over the years. Did we distinguish these sub-genres because of the nationality of the participants, or because they were so musically unique and the nationality aided this? What if a British band were to come along and record an album which sounded like, say, PFM at their height? Would that be RPI? We do have this problem with Canterbury Scene, which was so called because of a group of musicians who got together and created music and a feel in, erm, Canterbury, and yet we allow bands from, say, deepest Glasgow who make an album sounding like a scene album into that sub-genre, which is so historically incorrect it is painful. I say this not to be controversial, but to highlight an ongoing debate which will, frankly, never be satisfactorily resolved.
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Ah yes, I used to buy Sounds every week back in the early 70's.
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I used to love Sounds. Very happy memories of those bizarre and pointless arguments about the death of punk and the rise of Oi Oi, led, of course, by that paragon of British quality journalism. Garry Bushell. Happy days!
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I guess there are a few DNA mismatches to be found.
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I would read it WH Smith |
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Bottom line is if it's not done by Pete Frame it's probably garbage.
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I think maybe the Harmony Encyclopedia of Rock. I discovered some prog bands that way. I think his family trees showed up in other places though. The one at the top of this page I think is from the progressive rock files book by Jerry Lucky. However, I don't think that one was done by Pete Frame(I could be wrong though).
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As incomplete as it is, I'm still impressed with the number of bands listed, as well as listing certain bands more than once if they cross into other styles, or exist in multiple time periods.
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Interestingly, most of the folks once shared a flat in London!
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