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Originally posted by nick_h_nz nick_h_nz wrote:

Originally posted by dr wu23 dr wu23 wrote:

Not sure what 'modern prog' means but if you like those older  bands you mentioned you need to hear Wobbler....their last 3 lp's are excellent.

Not that the OP appears to be paying any attention to the answers to the question posed, but I don’t think that is what is meant by the OP at all. Wobbler, as you imply, sounds like those older bands - and therefore doesn’t have the modern prog sound the OP suggested they were looking to explore.

Usually when I talk about prog though to other people, they tend to mention more modern bands like Dream theater, Porcupine tree, and Tool. I would like to get into these bands.”

That's true upon re-reading, .....sounds like he wants to explore some thing a bit different...still I hope he cks out Wobbler...a brillaint band in any style imho.
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Originally posted by Pelata Pelata wrote:

Bent Knee
Caligula's Horse
Leprous

+1 for Leprous.  Pitfalls (their most recent) is superbClap

And if you'd like to try some hurdy-gurdy flute folk metal, then check out Cellar Darling (who are not yet appearing on PA, not sure why).  Listen to the song Six Days and tell me it isn't completely brilliant!


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I know a lot of guys that love the classic prog sound - often very dependant on the warm and slightly live sounding production....and they never got along with newer prog bands...which is fine. It’s about tastebuds.
If you’re mostly searching for that good old warmish 70s sound, well then there are quite a few bands out there releasing stuff that sounds like it was pulled from a time machine.
Three albums fx:

De Lorians - s/t
Needlepoint - Aimless Mary
Wobbler - Dwellers Of The Deep
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Originally posted by essexboyinwales essexboyinwales wrote:

Originally posted by Pelata Pelata wrote:

Bent Knee
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Leprous


+1 for Leprous.  Pitfalls (their most recent) is superbClap

And if you'd like to try some hurdy-gurdy flute folk metal, then check out Cellar Darling (who are not yet appearing on PA, not sure why).  Listen to the song Six Days and tell me it isn't completely brilliant!



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White Willow is reccomended, very good band
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Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

This is tough as a lot of modern prog bands have evolved a long ways from the 70s/80s prog bands, with a greater emphasis on metal. I would bridge gap first by checking out mid 80s neo-prog bands like Marillion and IQ first, as it's not such a big jump. Early Marillion is very Genesis like, and later in the 90s they developed their own sound. Brave from 1994 is considered their magnum opus. Any early IQ album is great.

Steve's approach is one I would recommend to you myself. 

Also, continue researching the classic 70's prog. After all, nothing beats it at the ned of the day, IMO. You will gradually and naturally evolve into the later prog - I hope you're young enough to progress through the prog years chronologically LOL

If not, have a look at PA's Top Albums year by year and/or investigate PA's prog genres' top albums and elect the genres you like (life's too short for all genres, IMO, and you're unlikely to like all the genres). 

Lastly, have a look at Collaborators' Top Album year by year.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote AFlowerKingCrimson Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 08 2021 at 17:27
Originally posted by Icarium Icarium wrote:

White Willow is reccomended, very good band

Are they still considered modern though? At one point they had a symphonic folk sound and then not long after that bam prog metal or prog metallish at least. Great band regardless but I don't think have put out anything in a while.


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Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

Originally posted by Icarium Icarium wrote:

White Willow is reccomended, very good band

Are they still considered modern though? At one point they had a symphonic folk sound and then not long after that bam prog metal or prog metallish at least. Great band regardless but I don't think have put out anything in a while.

They released an album last year.

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For me, "modern" progressive rock/metal often means crossover progressive music.

The Pineapple Thief, Riverside, Lunatic Soul, The Butterfly Effect, Karnivool, Lazuli, AmartiA, Anathema, Gazpacho, Soup, Meer, Yobrepus, ...

And also many bands of post-rock/metal.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote nick_h_nz Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 09 2021 at 03:53
Originally posted by PhideauxFan PhideauxFan wrote:

For me, "modern" progressive rock/metal often means crossover progressive music.

The Pineapple Thief, Riverside, Lunatic Soul, The Butterfly Effect, Karnivool, Lazuli, AmartiA, Anathema, Gazpacho, Soup, Meer, Yobrepus, ...

And also many bands of post-rock/metal.

Yes,  much of the modern (and no longer quite so modern) prog I listen to tends to be categorised as crossover on PA.

Leaving aside the very valid point already made that a lot of the “modern” bands listed here are closer in time to the “classic” prog era than they are to today, I find it quite amusing how many bands are being suggested that might be more modern, but are merely carrying on (not matter how well) the sounds of the classic bands.

Given what the OP asked, this is clearly not what they’re wanting. Not that it matters, because they don’t seem to have participated since that opening gambit.

For similar reasons, I’m not convinced about the use of ‘80s neo-prog as a means of arriving at the more modern prog bands and artists. If someone had done that for me, I’d probably have been put right off. I’m sure there is some mighty fine music in the ‘80s, but in terms of neo-prog I’ve not yet come across anything that hasn’t put me right off from that time. There is a huge gap in my cd collection in the ‘80s when it comes to prog. I have loads of music from the ‘80s, but very little of it can be found on PA.

I know if I were thinking of getting someone who has only listened to classic prog from the ‘70s, and who wants to listen to more modern prog, then I would be heading straight to this century. The only ‘90s albums I would throw their way would likely be from the bands mentioned in the OP. Why? Well, one, because obviously that is what the OP is asking for; and two, because they really do give a good grounding for what comes next.

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Originally posted by Guldbamsen Guldbamsen wrote:

I know a lot of guys that love the classic prog sound - often very dependant on the warm and slightly live sounding production....and they never got along with newer prog bands...which is fine. It’s about tastebuds.
If you’re mostly searching for that good old warmish 70s sound, well then there are quite a few bands out there releasing stuff that sounds like it was pulled from a time machine.
Three albums fx:

De Lorians - s/t
Needlepoint - Aimless Mary
Wobbler - Dwellers Of The Deep

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I got into modern prog by discovering SMPTe by Transatlantic
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Originally posted by nick_h_nz nick_h_nz wrote:

Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

Originally posted by Icarium Icarium wrote:

White Willow is reccomended, very good band

Are they still considered modern though? At one point they had a symphonic folk sound and then not long after that bam prog metal or prog metallish at least. Great band regardless but I don't think have put out anything in a while.

They released an album last year.


That's not a new studio album though. It's more like a compilation album. 
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I'm throwing a second for Lunatic Soul. Great stuff.
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Seems like a lot of folks are suggesting albums, whereas I think songs might be a better place to start.  I'm not a huge prog fan so have limited suggestions but will go here:

Neal Morse Band: while it's a lengthy, double CD concept album, Similitude of a Dream has a number of songs that are short and melodic enough to pick up on quickly:

City of Destruction
The Ways of a Fool
So Far Gone
Slave to Your Mind

Really, the entire album is relatively easy to pick up bc the individual songs are short and employ a number of pop techniques

Another good spot is Steven Wilson's Hand. Cannot. Erase.  Songs I'd recommend for intro listens:

Hand Cannot Erase
Happy Returns
Perfect Life

Wilson was also the creative force behind Porcupine Tree and their Fear of a Blank Planet also has some good ones for you:

Fear of a Blank Planet
My Ashes
Sleep Together

Other songs from Wilson / PT:

The Birthday Party
She's Moved On
The Raven that Refused to Sing

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Thank ya'll for the recommendations. Sorry I have been inactive for a bit, I got a little preoccupied with work, and study and didn't find a lot of time to come by and check back on this forum properly. I will try to take as many of these recommendations into consideration as a can.
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I'd say I could be quite open to metal, perhaps not anything to the extent of napalm death, but I rather enjoy Metallica, and Pearl Jam
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Like you, my prog roots emerged from the "classic era" of Prog: Yes, Genesis, ELP, Gentle Giant, King Crimson, Nektar, and that part of the spectrum.

Later, exploring "modern prog" -- Dream Theatre, Spock's Beard, Tool, Riverside, Flower Kings, etc. -- I found it interesting, intriguing, immersive, and enjoyable to a degree, but nothing really flipped my switch into same level of ecstasy as the classics until I discovered Porcupine Tree and Steven Wilson.  They/he have catapulted themselves to probably the top of my prog pantheon, bar nothing.

Given what you said about how you first approached your journey into prog, beginning more accessibly and working toward the more esoteric, I would take the following progression into Porcupine Tree:
 1. Stupid Dream
 2. Signify
 3. Lightbulb Sun
 4. Deadwing
 5. In Absentia

... and then earlier/later into their catalogue.  (This is not necessarily my ranking of album preference, being instead an aesthetic progression from the starting point of accessibility.)

Likewise, there's the Steven Wilson solo albums, which are every bit as worthy as the PT material, arguably more so -- he's just wider-ranging musically and stylistically than he was permitted within the strictures of needing to conform to a band's vision.  Grace For Drowning, in particular, is astounding.

Not to be forgotten, either, is the amazing Storm Corrosion album, Steven's collaboration with Opeth's Mikael Åkerfeldt -- an album that grows on me increasingly every time I listen to it.  And to think they considered it an experiment...

PT is going to have a harder edge, being infused from metal riffs and is heavier percussively than prog from classic era.  That's a turn-off for some, and a redemption of the entire genre for others.  Be aware of that as you explore, and tune your mood accordingly.

I wish you a marvelous explorative journey.
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