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SiiGull ![]() Forum Newbie ![]() ![]() Joined: October 17 2020 Location: merica Status: Offline Points: 23 |
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Over the past year I have cemented myself as a prog fan, but most of what I like comes from the classics, usually the late 60's and 70's. Usually when I talk about prog though to other people, they tend to mention more modern bands like Dream theater, Porcupine tree, and Tool. I would like to get into these bands but I'm not sure where a good place to start would be. The thing is with a lot of prog, is that it's not something you can just immediately pic up on with your first listen, you have to ease into it, in order to get used to the styles of certain bands. Even though songs like Shine on you crazy diamond, Close to the edge, and Suppers ready may be some of my all time favorite songs now, I first discovered these bands through there more simple works like Another brick in the wall, Owner of a lonely heart, and Phil Collins stuff. So the question is for these bands, where would be a easy place to start, and what path should I take to growing towards more experimental stuff?
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richardh ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: February 18 2004 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 29474 |
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Dream Theater - Octavarium (quite classic prog friendly album)
Porcupine Tree - Deadwing ( I didn't like them at all until I heard this) I doubt there is an easy place to start with Tool. Lateralus is a massive modern prog metal classic, pretty much re-defining the genre, but you may still hate it all the same. Nothing to be done if you do , just accept it!
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SteveG ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: April 11 2014 Location: Kyiv In Spirit Status: Offline Points: 20617 |
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This is tough as a lot of modern prog bands have evolved a long ways from the 70s/80s prog bands, with a greater emphasis on metal. I would bridge gap first by checking out mid 80s neo-prog bands like Marillion and IQ first, as it's not such a big jump. Early Marillion is very Genesis like, and later in the 90s they developed their own sound. Brave from 1994 is considered their magnum opus. Any early IQ album is great.
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Grumpyprogfan ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: July 09 2019 Location: Kansas City Status: Offline Points: 12400 |
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Of the three you mention.
DT - Images and Words PT - Stupid Dream Tool - not my bag Others I recommend Izz - Don't Panic Echoyn - The End is Beautiful Sanguine Hum - A Trace of Memory The Psychedelic Ensemble - The Tale of the Golden King Frost* - Milliontown Big Big Train - English Electric Part One Mike Keneally - Dancing Wobbler - From Silence to Somewhere Haken - Visions Could go on as there is ample quantity of killer modern prog to choose from. Good luck and enjoy. |
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Cboi Sandlin ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: March 25 2021 Location: Texas Status: Offline Points: 461 |
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Ænima by Tool is a great modern prog album.
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richardh ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: February 18 2004 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 29474 |
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that's a good starter list ![]() I would chuck Anathema's Weather Systems in as well and perhaps Magenta - We Are Legend.
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Progmind ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: June 29 2010 Location: Argentina Status: Offline Points: 3458 |
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KOI - In Tomorrow Hid Yesterday
Liquid Scarlet - II Anekdoten - Until All The Ghost Are Gone IQ - Frequency
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JD ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: February 07 2009 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 18446 |
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I kinda get a kick out of the 'Modern Prog' term. The bands you listed are more or less 90's + bands. That makes them 30 years old. After 30 years, you know what 'they' used to say about my favourite band? Who now? They did that song song about a lucky man right? Man...you're old. One man's modern. Quick story, my father, at the age of 50, quit his job as a professional draughtsman, got his teaching certificate and became a Tech teacher in the secondary school system. He once told me one of his students made a comment about 'old man'. So my dad asked him..."How old do you need to be to be old?" I think the kid said 30. So my dad asked again. " How old do you have to be, to be considered old by a 30 year old?" You can see where this went. It's all relative. Modern is now and a bit before. Sorry for the sidetrack...here's a few of my suggestions from that period...and a little beyond. Spock's Beard - Beware of Darkness - The Kindness of Strangers Gordian Knot - Emergent
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Frenetic Zetetic ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: December 09 2017 Location: Now Status: Offline Points: 9233 |
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As a seasoned hard rock and metal veteran, even I agree with this. It's like everything deemed prog now is basically rock/metal with keyboards or something. It's like people are afraid to make non-hard rock music with progressive elements lol. What a world.
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"I am so prog, I listen to concept albums on shuffle." -KMac2021 |
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Profeus ![]() Forum Newbie ![]() ![]() Joined: March 28 2021 Location: India Status: Offline Points: 16 |
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Hi guys . It would be great if y'all could spare a minute to check out my songs. I make prog/post rock /Indian folk fusion stuff. Y'all may like it. You can just search up profeus on spotify or YouTube. Thanks 😊
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essexboyinwales ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: April 27 2015 Location: Bridgend Status: Online Points: 5226 |
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Dream Theater - definitely Images And Words. Octavarium is a good shout, maybe A Dramatic Turn Of Events too.
Porcupine Tree - I would go for Fear Of A Blank Planet, or The Incident.
I can't really advise on Tool, I have Aenima but didn't enjoy it. Some of my own suggestions: Devin Townsend/Devin Townsend Project - I feel that his stuff is very "modern prog", but it's heavy and not to everyone's taste. I absolutely love him and his music. Check out Addicted, or Sky Blue, or Epicloud, or delve right in with 2019's classic Empath. Frost* - again, very modern to me; I would go with Falling Satellites. It Bites - The Tall Ships, or Once Around The World (1986!) - covers both eras. |
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ssmarcus ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: September 05 2019 Location: Israel Status: Offline Points: 261 |
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I like these recommendations! Although can we really call the 90's 00's stuff "modern"? We're almost 20 years removed from some of these records.
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ssmarcus ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: September 05 2019 Location: Israel Status: Offline Points: 261 |
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How open are you to metal?
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Grumpyprogfan ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: July 09 2019 Location: Kansas City Status: Offline Points: 12400 |
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bartymj ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: June 16 2020 Location: Herts Status: Offline Points: 265 |
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The great thing about this thread is that the time between some of the "modern" recommendations and Close to the Edge is shorter than the time between the "modern" recommendations and the present day
![]() Modern is a very subjective word! I would definitely dive into Porcupine Tree though, Deadwing and Fear of a Blank Planet are great albums for me (although approaching twenty years old!). Plus Steven Wilson's solo work, Hand Cannot Erase is brilliant. But to be completely up to date, http://www.progarchives.com/top-prog-albums.asp?syears=2020 Generally, the top rated are the top rated for a reason. Personally I'd go for Logos - Sadako..., and Zopp. |
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Grumpyprogfan ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: July 09 2019 Location: Kansas City Status: Offline Points: 12400 |
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dr wu23 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: August 22 2010 Location: Indiana Status: Offline Points: 20661 |
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Not sure what 'modern prog' means but if you like those older bands you mentioned you need to hear Wobbler....their last 3 lp's are excellent.
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nick_h_nz ![]() Collaborator ![]() ![]() Prog Metal / Heavy Prog Team Joined: March 01 2013 Location: Suffolk, UK Status: Offline Points: 6737 |
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All a matter of shared taste, and that’s the reason. My own personal favourites don’t tend to feature highly (or at all), either. But the statement that “generally, the top rates are the top rated for a reason holds true”, and ironically your own argument against it merely reinforced it. 😄 |
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nick_h_nz ![]() Collaborator ![]() ![]() Prog Metal / Heavy Prog Team Joined: March 01 2013 Location: Suffolk, UK Status: Offline Points: 6737 |
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Not that the OP appears to be paying any attention to the answers to the question posed, but I don’t think that is what is meant by the OP at all. Wobbler, as you imply, sounds like those older bands - and therefore doesn’t have the modern prog sound the OP suggested they were looking to explore. “Usually when I talk about prog though to other people, they tend to mention more modern bands like Dream theater, Porcupine tree, and Tool. I would like to get into these bands.” |
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