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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 02 2005 at 11:41
Americans like to talk about (or be told about) Democracy but, when put to
the test, usually find it to be an 'inconvenience.' We have opted instead
for an authoritarian system disguised as a Democracy. We pay through
the nose for an enormous joke-of-a-government, let it push us around, and
then wonder how all those assholes got in there.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 02 2005 at 11:42
Originally posted by threefates threefates wrote:

Oh Reed, I thought it was a funny article anyway... I doubt there's much accuracy in it.  Afterall its on a site called thefamily.org... sounds ultra right to me...

I just thought the comment about American conservatism being optimistic and British conservatism being pessimistic was funny.  Especially since they didn't mention that the British conservative party doesn't really have the same definition as ours...  Plus I was thinking about a newspaper article I read recently...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v20/Pebble/Greg%20Lake/Lon donTimes.jpg

 

Greg Lake and comedian Jim Davidson at a conservative party reception... must of been a hoot!

Shouldn't have told me that!

Greg Lake at a Conservative Dinner?

Well, he would fit in well with all the other fat, bloated pigs!Pig

As a lifelong Socialist I will print out his picture portfolio from your signature and wipe my perfectly-formed arse on it! Wink

Unfortunately many Prog Artists seem to be non-socialist including my own heroes, Rush. Must be a money thing!




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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 02 2005 at 11:43
REED just go away !!!!!!!!!!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 02 2005 at 11:47
Bilden “http://www.londonstimes.us/toons/cartoons/clown.jpg” kan inte visas, då den innehåller fel.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 02 2005 at 12:02
Originally posted by Reed Lover Reed Lover wrote:

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As a lifelong Socialist I will print out his picture portfolio from your signature and wipe my perfectly-formed arse on it! Wink

I'm sure it will be a better quality than what you usually wipe your arse with..

THIS IS ELP
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 02 2005 at 12:05
Reed never wipes his arse. that´s why we love him !!!!! .......... well sort of
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 02 2005 at 18:53
"The conservative movement in America is much more libertarian... [than Britain]"

Sorry? Am I missing something here? From what I've noticed, in the US you have the right to bear arms. However in Britain the age of consent is 2 years lower,
the age of drinking is three years lower,
one's allowed to gamble (which is illegal in many US states, is it not?),
one's allowed to take mushrooms (admittedly, a loophole rather than a law, but it's not like anything's being done about it),
one is, for the time being, allowed to smoke in public places (which is illegal in at least some US states, no?)

Also, religion is hardly synonymous with
libertarianism!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 02 2005 at 19:36
The Socialists have destroyed my country

New Zealand is a Socialist Dictatorship. SAVE ME!
And Jesus said unto John, "come forth and receive eternal life..."
Unfortunately, John came fifth and was stuck with a toaster.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 03 2005 at 10:52

Originally posted by Rob The Good Rob The Good wrote:

The Socialists have destroyed my country

New Zealand is a Socialist Dictatorship. SAVE ME!




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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 03 2005 at 11:17
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 03 2005 at 11:31
39 cent anti-Bush button special -
I'm always almost unlucky _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Id5ZcnjXSZaSMFMC Id5LM2q2jfqz3YxT
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 03 2005 at 12:49

Originally posted by tuxon tuxon wrote:

39 cent anti-Bush button special -

He has lowered taxes quite a bit you dumb arse.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 03 2005 at 12:55

But your children will have to pay for the defficit he creates now in the future.

So their taxes will have to be higher, the future will pay for yesterday's mistakes.

Or am I really a dumb arse

I'm always almost unlucky _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Id5ZcnjXSZaSMFMC Id5LM2q2jfqz3YxT
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 03 2005 at 13:16
Originally posted by tuxon tuxon wrote:

But your children will have to pay for the defficit he creates now in the future.

So their taxes will have to be higher, the future will pay for yesterday's mistakes.

Or am I really a dumb arse

I don't give a blurp about anyone's children...just myself!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 03 2005 at 13:22
Originally posted by gdub411 gdub411 wrote:

Originally posted by tuxon tuxon wrote:

But your children will have to pay for the defficit he creates now in the future.

So their taxes will have to be higher, the future will pay for yesterday's mistakes.

Or am I really a dumb arse

I don't give a blurp about anyone's children...just myself!

Numb arse !

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 03 2005 at 13:26
Originally posted by Reed Lover Reed Lover wrote:

Originally posted by gdub411 gdub411 wrote:

Originally posted by tuxon tuxon wrote:

But your children will have to pay for the defficit he creates now in the future.

So their taxes will have to be higher, the future will pay for yesterday's mistakes.

Or am I really a dumb arse

I don't give a blurp about anyone's children...just myself!

Numb arse !

Wink

Dirty,rotten, little whelps always giving ya lip these days. Whatever happened to respect of yer elders? Things were different when I was a kid. I could rip a telephone book in half I tell ya. IN HALF!!!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 03 2005 at 13:33
Originally posted by tuxon tuxon wrote:

But your children will have to pay for the defficit he creates now in the future.

So their taxes will have to be higher, the future will pay for yesterday's mistakes.

Or am I really a dumb arse

 

This argument is very old and it just seems to have little relevance.  The government has only had maybe 6 balanced budgets since before WW2.  Only 4 of those resulted in a surplus. The last time we have "record deficits" were from Reagan's tax cuts in the 80's which helped spur on the prosperity of the 90's.  We pay on the deficit every year since it draws interest.  Hell, we still pay on deficits created in WW2 times that we forgave our allies debt too. American children pay for that too.



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 03 2005 at 13:36
Maybe if you gedblarm yourpeeans payd yer lones frum da WW2oo we'd no have a deafisit.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 03 2005 at 13:47

Originally posted by gdub411 gdub411 wrote:

Maybe if you gedblarm yourpeeans payd yer lones frum da WW2oo we'd no have a deafisit.

 

Ah!  true enlightenment at last!  



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 03 2005 at 13:56

Goddamm pinko liberal bleeding heart lefty business hater Clinton left the US economy with the biggest surplus in history.

Harvard Business School MBA Texas oilman Mutimegacorporations can do no wrong  Bush has created the biggest deficit in the history of the US economy.

I might be missing something here, not being an economist, but I think I can see which side the bread is buttered....

...and incidentally, it wasn't Reagan who was responsible for the death of Soviet communism, it was Gorbachev's policies of Glasnost and Perestroika.

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I've got my doubts about how much to contribute
to the already rich among us...'

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